So you do not believe that Messianic Judaism is a true Judaism?I will repeat what I have previously posted. For purposes of this discussion, when I am speaking about a Christian, I am referring to a person who believes in Jesus Christ. When I am speaking about a Jew, I am referring to an adherent of Judaism.
But I would argue that there is no actual "conversion" at all, just a logical next step in Judaism: New Covenant Judaism.I am not arguing Jews cease being Jews when they convert to Christianity. That is a straw man. However, when Jews do convert to Christianity, they normally cease practicing Judaism and instead embrace and practice Christianity (i.e. they believe in Jesus Christ).
Are you aware that there are many "black hat orthodox" Jews who sit in a synagogue daily and live in a closed "haredi" community that believe in Jesus?
I know of no "judaizers" today. After all, what does a Judaizer teach and believe?As a reminder, the Judaiziers were condemned at the Council of Jerusalem in Acts 15.
“Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved.”
Circumcision is the final step in formal conversion to traditional Judaism.