Is Sugar A Killer ?

[Lewis]

Good info Ed, I did not know that it was outlawed, also in ancient Egypt beer drinking was encouraged, but they did not use sugar.

 

[AirDancer]

Didn't come across any thing on the 'net about sugar being illegal, Edward. That's a new one for this ol' history buff.

http://www.sucrose.com/lhist.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_sugar

 

[tim-from-pa]

Well, sugar certainly ain't the best thing for you. Like many foods, it falls into the man's refinement category, and that's what makes it bad. Too many carbs and no nutrition with it. Part of the problem with the sugar addicts and getting high is that people who fall into such categories aren't only eating the wrongs things, but not enough of the good things. So it's more than because it's bad for you and poisonous. Probably some of these people are deficient in certain nutrients as well which gives the adverse withdrawl symptoms when they stop. In the case of sugar, the B-complex vitamins come to mind.

Sugar and alcohol are similar IMO. If you can't "just stop" cold, then there's probably a nutritional lack somewhere despite the "addiction" and "dependency" buzz words these days. Coming from a medical world that rather push drugs to get off of bad foods and other drugs it's no surprise that they overlook nutrition. They probably would not know what a person with Beriberi or with a niacin deficiency misdiagnosing it as a nervous disorder instead. But sugar can help cause all these lacks if you don't get the nutrition elsewhere because to put it colloquially, burns it all off.

 

[Edward]

Good info Ed, I did not know that it was outlawed, also in ancient Egypt beer drinking was encouraged, but they did not use sugar.

That's what it said in "Sugar Blues". I don't know it for a fact I guess, I wasn't alive back then but they sounded like they knew what they were talking about and it did make sense. Sugar does destroy the nutrition in food and the late 1800's/early 1900's is when Coca-cola was coming out, so...I believed it. I'm not sure why they'd lie about it. ??

 

[AirDancer]

I prefer Demarara sugar....works just fine in baking & cooking, and isn't as processed as granulated white sugar.

http://www.care2.com/greenliving/what-is-demerara-sugar.html

 

[Edward]

I found some info where sugar was banned from import in Britain for awhile, but nothing in the US yet.

 

[Edward]

I am a sugar addict. Good thing I do Orthomolecular--all those b complex vitamins and now high dose fish oil seems to help take the edge off, lol.

I'm getting better. But, seriously, once your body is adjusted to sugar and your taste buds, too, its difficult. I mean, who wants splenda in their (iced) coffee? Not this guy...

I hate all sugar substitutes. They taste like poison. I used to take sugar in my coffee, but I cut it out. I drink a lot of coffee. I hardly use sugar anymore, but I do like sweet things and candy bars.

If you want to see how much sugar is in your product, it usually gives it in grams. A teaspoonful is 4 grams. They have different names for sugar too, and it may be listed in two or more ways. Anhydrous dextrose, brown sugar, cane crystals, cane sugar, corn sweetener, corn syrup, corn syrup solids, crystal dextrose, evaporated cane juice, fructose sweetener, fruit juice concentrates, high-fructose corn syrup, honey, liquid fructose, malt syrup, maple syrup, molasses, pancake syrup, raw sugar, sugar, syrup and white sugar... and a lot of other names too.

http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/different-words-sugar-food-labels-8373.html

We eat more sugar than we think we do.

 

[evenifigoalone]

Is starch as bad as refined sugar? I remember learning about it, but I don't recall...

 

[tim-from-pa]

I want to add something else here. Rather they all ban sugar than a "fat tax" on butter like the lame-brained nation of Denmark once did until people churned their own butter.

Meats, eggs, butter, salt, and similar natural foods have gotten a bad rap.

Instead, what are we told to eat? Fruits and vegetables, and "whole grains". The first is OK in moderation because that's natural. Just don't get too much fruit sugar but some is OK. Veggies are OK too, particularly raw. But the latter is the problem. When they point you out to so-called "whole grain" breads for instance, it's loaded with processed corn syrup in place of the old sugar. That's even worse.

Secondary, while the list is good except for their "whole grains", you must also notice that these calories are virtually all carbohydrates. Little protein, virtually no fat. So while these foods are generally "good" they are only PART of the nutritional picture (all carbs). The rest of the foods that complete the picture are the foods they say are BAD (i.e. the high protein and fatty foods such as meats, eggs, butter, etc).

Let me back track a minute here. When I was a kid, I learned nutrition from my old doctor, who was not like those around today. Caloric foods are basically Carbohydrates, fats and proteins. You need a good amount of each (along with vitamins and minerals). The Michele Obamama's today and the rest of the health world basically focus on carbs, and demonize the rest.

My whole dietary philosophy is basically simple, but if you notice, they twist the truth just a little by pushing only part of the whole picture, or calling the good bad and vice versa. (Sort of like the gospel and biblical truth). You really have to have discernment.

 

[Edward]

Is starch as bad as refined sugar? I remember learning about it, but I don't recall...

They argue about it, but I don't think so. People have been eating starchy food for an awful long time. In fact, one of the things I used to do a lot when I wanted energy and didn't want to down a bunch of sugar (I had read the book), was to juice a few potatoes. It doesn't taste bad, just has a curious texture to it, lol. When potato juice hits the bloodstream, it does the same thing that sugar does. Turns to glucose. It's like drinking sugar water. Drink a water glass full of potato juice, and it'll make you vibrate! Big rush.

 

[Willie T]

What is the main thing cancer feeds off? Sugar.

 

[tim-from-pa]

What is the main thing cancer feeds off? Sugar.

Not only that, but doesn't sugar also feed some type of fungal infections as well? Germs seem to thrive better in such an environment.

 

[Willie T]

Not only that, but doesn't sugar also feed some type of fungal infections as well? Germs seem to thrive better in such an environment.

Yep. The basic game plan is eat foods that keep your PH level in the center (about 7.3), eliminate as much sugar and trans-fats as possible, and increase your oxygen intake.
I have a real neat trick for that increase, if I can find the video. Simple, easy, and costs nothing. (I found it)

 

[jasonc]

sugar is bad for the lagoon.

you would have to know where im talking about, and I can grow canes in back yard.

 

[Willie T]

sugar is bad for the lagoon.

you would have to know where im talking about, and I can grow canes in back yard.

Turkey?

 

[jasonc]

Turkey?

no, google indian river lagoon, lake Okeechobee discharges, big sugar. there is a connection according to some. the fertilizer is what is bad.

 

[jasonc]

there used to be some orange stands that sold honey and sugar from sugar cane fields. I think that hale groves and Peterson groves did that. they both still sell honey.if you are over 35 and lived in florida you will remember the orange stands on the highways to and from the interstates and the turnpike if you lived in the indian river citrus area. ie indian river, st.lucie, martin county. not saying that other counties that had groves didn't have that. just saying what was when I was a boy and isn't around any more.

 

[Willie T]

there used to be some orange stands that sold honey and sugar from sugar cane fields. I think that hale groves and Peterson groves did that. they both still sell honey.if you are over 35 and lived in florida you will remember the orange stands on the highways to and from the interstates and the turnpike if you lived in the indian river citrus area. ie indian river, st.lucie, martin county. not saying that other counties that had groves didn't have that. just saying what was when I was a boy and isn't around any more.

If you use honey (a good idea) buy ONLY locally produced honey. It will help with your resistance to locally grown and developed allergic irritants. Sort of like a natural vaccination, I guess.

 

[jasonc]

most of the honey locally will have that citrus taste as they let the bees pollinate from the orange and grapefruit flowers.

 

[Willie T]

And then..... there's milk !
An interesting browse....... http://www.rense.com/general26/truth.htm