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Is the vaccine effective?

Is the vaccine effective?

  • Yes

    Votes: 20 54.1%
  • No

    Votes: 6 16.2%
  • Better than none

    Votes: 2 5.4%
  • Worse than none

    Votes: 8 21.6%
  • Other (please specify)

    Votes: 1 2.7%

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Rollo Tamasi

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Have you ever done research on it or just heard it from a friend?

If you have a link to where you got your information I would love to see it because I cannot find a single thing on it being from the Covid shot since the earliest thing I can find on it is from 2017.
You have to get away from CNN.

 

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He died from COVID. The treatment for the type of cancer he had severely compromises the immune system. There is no reason to believe otherwise if that is what the press release stated.


THE PRESS?


Your joking, right?
 

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You have to get away from CNN.


It asked me to sign up and since it is a Republican website, I won't do that, but I do look for centrist news sources most of the time and Newsweek tends to be considered in the center and factual.

So I will link this for your perusal if you choose to do so.

https://www.newsweek.com/johnson-johnson-talc-lawsuits-skepticism-vaccine-1573843
 

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I showed the video where a UNITED STATES SENATOR (who has access to way more info than you or I) stated that 16,776 deaths had occurred and that was only what was reported, which is about 10% of the actual total.
Again, just because a senator says something doesn’t mean that that is what the data shows. Politicians make up or misunderstand all sorts of things, just like regular people.

For example, you just posted above the numbers from the CDC that show about half that number have died, or about 0.0022% of people who have been vaccinated. I was about to thank you for posting actual data. All you need to do is compare that with the case fatality rate of COVID and you will see that likelihood of death from COVID is significantly higher.

Besides, given the similarities of the side effects of the vaccines and the effects of COVID, which makes sense since the vaccines are designed to produce the same response in the body, people who do poorly with the vaccines quite possibly would do at least as poorly with catching COVID. That’s just my opinion.

And, I would love to see evidence for this “10%” number. Someone’s opinion is not evidence.
 

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THE PRESS?


Your joking, right?
Why should I be? Is it rational or Christlike to be so sceptical that you prefer your own conspiratorial ideas about someone’s death rather than taken as reported? Has COVID not killed a single person in the last year, so that we have significant reason to believe that it is only vaccines killing people and giving them myocarditis? Why do you distrust the press and the government except when you find their narrative convenient?

I really am trying to help you reason this out and not intending any sarcasm. Think through all the implications of these ideas, take them to their logical conclusions, and you should find that they’re ultimately unsupportable or at least highly unlikely.

By the way, I personally knew someone who died from the same cancer a few years ago. The treatment completely wipes out the immune system.
 

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you're a democrat?
so your pro- abortion?
Is that your Christian stance?

I have discussed this on here before.

I am not pro-abortion, but am pro-choice. Yes, there is a difference. People have to make their own choice in regards to abortion and is not for me to tell them either way what to do.

I have seven kids and never considered abortion, but that was my choice to make and the two mothers of my children to make.
 

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I was hoping for a third arm from it but no luck so far.
LOL! My wife surprised me one day at CVS and got her vaccine. She was sitting there after the shot and the pharmacist asked how she was feeling, and she said, "I feel something" and I replied, "The chip is doing it's thing then. You'll have your third arm in no time". Everybody around just cracked up. :hysterical
 

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Concerning the government picking up your hospital bill, is all the more reason to see that Covid is a ruse.
With due respect, when my wife went to the ICU, it was no ruse. When a family friend got put on a vent, it was no ruse. While only 2% of the population gets deathly sick, if you were in that 2%, or know anyone who's lost a loved one to Covid, it's no ruse. Please try and be respectful in this regard.
This is why no one goes to the hospital with the flu. They go with Covid because it is paid for. Flu deaths have disappeared. It is Covid that killed them.
Listen, with the exception of last year, not only have I gotten the flu every stinking year for the past 6 years, but five years ago I got bronchitis. Four years ago it turned into pneumonia and the two years after that I got pneumonia multiple times. Last winter was the first time I have not gotten the flu. I'd like to add that I started working from home about two months before it was mandated in Michigan and when Covid first came out, I was cautious and wore my mask, and sanitized my hands.

In short, my experience tells me that isolating in my home instead of going into the office where there are thousands of people kept me from getting the flu.
 

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[ACMP=reminder]
I have discussed this on here before.

I am not pro-abortion, but am pro-choice. Yes, there is a difference. People have to make their own choice in regards to abortion and is not for me to tell them either way what to do.

I have seven kids and never considered abortion, but that was my choice to make and the two mothers of my children to make.
If you and Rollo Tamasi want to discuss this, please create a new thread or take it to PM. Further replies on these topic in this thread will be removed.
Thanks.
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So you agree that the vaccine shouldn’t be given to everyone, but each person should decide for themselves based on their own individual age and health status?




JLB
ever heard of medical exemptions ,even with the ucmj ordering the military that predates covid by decades ,you had medical exemptions .

I had a reaction to tetanus ,I told the medic he cleared me .I had to many in 5 years .

its that simple .

look the sun ,yes the sun can cause cancer in me ,I'm high risk . I was warmed in Afghanistan and wear hats if I know I'm out for a long time . I should add sunscreen ,natural thing as sun light can cause it
 

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LOL! My wife surprised me one day at CVS and got her vaccine. She was sitting there after the shot and the pharmacist asked how she was feeling, and she said, "I feel something" and I replied, "The chip is doing it's thing then. You'll have your third arm in no time". Everybody around just cracked up. :hysterical
Lol! Well, no third arm but since we’re thinking the same thing, at least we know the 5G is working.
 

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Again, just because a senator says something doesn’t mean that that is what the data shows.

Again, just because the CDC says something doesn't mean that is what the data shows.
 

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Why should I be? Is it rational or Christlike to be so sceptical that you prefer your own conspiratorial ideas about someone’s death rather than taken as reported?

It's sad to see people who are Christians so gullible as to believe everything the mainstream media spoon feeds them.
 

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Again, just because the CDC says something doesn't mean that is what the data shows.

Just because JLB or anyone else who doesn't believe the CDC and thinks that the CDC is wrong doesn't mean that the CDC is wrong or it isn't what the data shows.
 

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It's sad to see people who are Christians so gullible as to believe everything the mainstream media spoon feeds them.

Why is this the typical and often-used response? Isn't it possible that people aren't getting their information from mainstream media and actually doing the research?

Just because they disagree with you, it doesn't mean that they are being spoonfed by anyone or guillable.
 
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