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Israel is Babylon!

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Israel is Babylon the Great.

Babylon has killed Christ and the prophets (Rev 11:8, 18:24). Who killed Christ and the prophets? According to the Bible the Jews (1 Thess 2:14-16).

Israel isn't the people of God anymore. The people of God is Christianity. Those who support Israel are false Christians, don't trust these Zionists. Zionism is devilish.

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Distance yourself from Dispensationalists/Evangelicals/Zionists. These are heretics. The Bible and the church fathers condemn them.

Take care of your children, because the Zionists are everywhere. They disguise themselves as Christians but they are wolves. Leave them. Get out of Babylon.
 
Romans 11
1 I say then, Has God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
2 God has not cast away his people which he foreknew. ...

the passage goes on to point out that we are grafted into Israel.
So if God abandons Israel... WEEP!!!
For you and I are adopted into Israel.
If God abandons Israel, He also would be abandoning us.
We are adopted Jews... like it or not.
 
Paul Timothy said:
Romans 11
1 I say then, Has God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
2 God has not cast away his people which he foreknew. ...

the passage goes on to point out that we are grafted into Israel.
So if God abandons Israel... WEEP!!!
For you and I are adopted into Israel.
If God abandons Israel, He also would be abandoning us.
We are adopted Jews... like it or not.
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Just read the whole chapter. The Jews (the branches) have broken off because of their unbelief (Rom 11:20). So what did Paul mean when he said that God did not "cast away" them? He means that the Jews aren't damned but still have the chance to follow the truth. Paul himself is the best example, who was a Jew and converted to Christianity. So Paul isn't saying: "The Jews are still God's people although they don't believe" but: "There is a remnant who will follow Christ".

There's only one true people of God and that's Christianity where there are Jews and Gentiles. There's no distinction.

Jesus said: "Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit."(Matt 21:43). The new people are the Christians.

You Zionists are false teachers, you do not belong to us Christians. Even the church fathers curse you.
 
user. said:
Just read the whole chapter. The Jews (the branches) have broken off because of their unbelief (Rom 11:20). So what did Paul mean when he said that God did not "cast away" them? He means that the Jews aren't damned but still have the chance to follow the truth. Paul himself is the best example, who was a Jew and converted to Christianity. So Paul isn't saying: "The Jews are still God's people although they don't believe" but: "There is a remnant who will follow Christ".
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Right... so not all Israel is damned... and not all Israel is saved.
And we are grafted into Israel. So we are Israel.
user. said:
There's only one true people of God and that's Christianity where there are Jews and Gentiles. There's no distinction.
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The family of Israel with all of it's adopted family members.
user. said:
Jesus said: "Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit."(Matt 21:43). The new people are the Christians.
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We are adopted into the family of Israel.
user. said:
You Zionists are false teachers, you do not belong to us Christians. Even the church fathers curse you.
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You have any references for your claims?
Are you cursing me along with "even the church fathers curse"?
Prov 26:2
 
Paul Timothy said:
Right... so not all Israel is damned... and not all Israel is saved.
And we are grafted into Israel. So we are Israel.

The family of Israel with all of it's adopted family members.

We are adopted into the family of Israel.

You have any references for your claims?
Are you cursing me along with "even the church fathers curse"?
Prov 26:2
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You didn't respond decently to what I wrote. You have no arguments and you have no knowledge of the Bible.

The church fathers followed the doctrine of supersessionism, which says that the old people of Israel no longer belong to God but the new Israel, which are the Christians. There is no distinction in the new Israel, there are no "adopted Jews" there are only those who have become a new creation in Christ and are true spiritual Jews. The carnal Jews are not true Jews until they accept Christ. Paul declared that a Jew is one who is spiritually one and not outwardly one.

Jesus curses you. You will soon receive your just punishment.
 
user. said:
Paul Timothy
come on man, you're 53 years old, an old man. Did you really report me because of this? Or was it someone else?
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Does it really matter? What you said violates the ToS. I only warned you not to refrain from making such statements to those you disagree with.
 
Free said:
Does it really matter? What you said violates the ToS. I only warned you not to refrain from making such statements to those you disagree with.
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If you're really Christian, you need to ban Zionists like him. I warn you, these are friends of Israel. And everyone of them will go to hell.

Dispensionalists and Evangelicals are the true enemies of Christ. The Church Fathers, the great Church Fathers, are on my side. Are you with them or against them? Or are you saying the Church Fathers didn't understand the bible but the Evangelicals who came many many years later did understand? Be smart.
 
user. said:
If you're really Christian, you need to ban Zionists like him. I warn you, these are friends of Israel. And everyone of them will go to hell.

Dispensionalists and Evangelicals are the true enemies of Christ. The Church Fathers, the great Church Fathers, are on my side. Are you with them or against them? Or are you saying the Church Fathers didn't understand the bible but the Evangelicals who came many many years later did understand? Be smart.
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We don't engage in cancel culture here and ban people simply because we disagree with their views. If we did, there would be no one on these forums. Christianity was instrumental in promoting freedom of belief and religion and instituting it in Western culture.
 
Like you, I was an evangelical myself who supported Israel until the living God opened my eyes and made me realize how wrong I was. God showed me that Israel is the house of demons, that Israel is Babylon the whore. He saved my soul from hell.

The Zionists have contaminated Christianity. They have abolished the traditional teachings of Christianity and added their modern teachings.

I warn every dispensationalist, evangelical, I warn every Zionist to wake up. Because if you die as an Israel-friend you will go to hell. You still have time. Get out of Babylon.
 
And all Christians are grafted into the Jewish family.

Rom 11:17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and you, being a wild olive tree, were grafted in among them, and with them partake of the root and fatness of the olive tree;

Christians grafted in among the good Jewish branches.
Bad Jewish branches are broken off.
 
user. said:
If you're really Christian, you need to ban Zionists like him. I warn you, these are friends of Israel. And everyone of them will go to hell.

Dispensionalists and Evangelicals are the true enemies of Christ. The Church Fathers, the great Church Fathers, are on my side. Are you with them or against them? Or are you saying the Church Fathers didn't understand the bible but the Evangelicals who came many many years later did understand? Be smart.
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You got and Biblical references for your claims?
 
user. said:
Like you, I was an evangelical myself who supported Israel until the living God opened my eyes and made me realize how wrong I was. God showed me that Israel is the house of demons, that Israel is Babylon the whore. He saved my soul from hell.

The Zionists have contaminated Christianity. They have abolished the traditional teachings of Christianity and added their modern teachings.

I warn every dispensationalist, evangelical, I warn every Zionist to wake up. Because if you die as an Israel-friend you will go to hell. You still have time. Get out of Babylon.
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You have no idea about my beliefs. And, no, no one will go to hell if they die as a friend of Israel. That would be salvation by works.
 
Paul Timothy said:
And all Christians are grafted into the Jewish family.

Rom 11:17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and you, being a wild olive tree, were grafted in among them, and with them partake of the root and fatness of the olive tree;

Christians grafted in among the good Jewish branches.
Bad Jewish branches are broken off.
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You still don't grasp it. There's no distinction between Christians and Jews (Rom 10:12).

Christians consist of Jews and Gentiles. There is only one people and everyone who believes belongs to this people.

It is no use talking to you, because I realize that the Spirit of God is not in you. You will not understand. But the children of God will understand. This is not meant as an insult, but it is the way it is.
 
user. said:
You still don't grasp it. There's no distinction between Christians and Jews (Rom 10:12).
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Absolutely... we are all Jews now.
I'm a Jew.
You're a Jew.
Is that not wonderful.
user. said:
Christians consist of Jews and Gentiles. There is only one people and everyone who believes belongs to this people.

It is no use talking to you, because I realize that the Spirit of God is not in you. You will not understand. But the children of God will understand. This is not meant as an insult, but it is the way it is.
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Welcome to the family of Jews around the world.
mazel tov
 
user. said:
It is no use talking to you, because I realize that the Spirit of God is not in you. You will not understand. But the children of God will understand. This is not meant as an insult, but it is the way it is.
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Questioning another's faith is a blatant violation of the ToS. Again, please familiarize yourself with the ToS. Any further violations and you will be banned from this thread.
 
There are two kinds of Jews, the carnal which belongs to (talmudic) Judaism and the spiritual which belongs to Christianity. The spiritual Jews are Christians who consist of ethnically Jews and Gentiles. The people of God is Christianity, and in Christianity there are people from all nations. Paul for example was a (talmudic) Jew but left it and converted to Christianity and became a spiritual Jew. There's no distinction, all spiritual Jews are equal. We are all Abrahams's children if we follow Christ (Galatians 3:29). If you don't follow Christ, you are a fake (talmudic) Jew (Rev 2:9).

It is a little complex but who understands it understands it.
 
user. said:
There are two kinds of Jews, the carnal which belongs to (talmudic) Judaism and the spiritual which belongs to Christianity. The spiritual Jews are Christians who consist of ethnically Jews and Gentiles. The people of God is Christianity, and in Christianity there are people from all nations. Paul for example was a (talmudic) Jew but left it and converted to Christianity and became a spiritual Jew. There's no distinction, all spiritual Jews are equal. We are all Abrahams's children if we follow Christ (Galatians 3:29). If you don't follow Christ, you are a fake (talmudic) Jew (Rev 2:9).

It is a little complex but who understands it understands it.
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So that would make you a Zionist as well.
Welcome to the Jewish nation.
 
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