Know Thyself/Intelligent Design !?

[for_his_glory]

If led by idolatry, your thoughts are not your own? Does this mean you're not responsible for idolatry since the thoughts that are idolatrous are not your own? Hence wouldn't punishing someone for idolatry be immoral?

By what spirit are you being led by, that of truth or that of error for error will always infiltrate your thoughts especially when you are involved with idolatry and the spirits there of.

 

[ReginaForbes]

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so what's so wrong with the song or saying "I adore you with every breath I breathe" - any comments - twinc

It discriminates against the "breathing challenged". LOL

 

[twinc]

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It discriminates against the "breathing challenged". LOL

re LOL see Lk.6:25 - so lets see the Majesty and intelligence of our Creator and Maker and give the due glory rightly back to HIM, instead of claiming it for ourselves and creating an acceptable God of ourselves[the idol of idols] for truly "in HIM we move and live and have our being" - HE knows us better than we know ourselves and knew left to us we would individually very quickly die and the human race and others also become extinct - left to ourselves we would only want to breath now and again or not sustain it for very long, or only do it when we felt like it and not at all when asleep - it is only in the like of Yoga classes that we concentrate on breathing for ourselves and even then twist and thwart and misconstrue the whole point of the exercise by getting entangled in the techniques rather than the [hidden] message - prove it for yourself just try and stop breathing - likewise we do not think but thoughts occur, so prove it for yourself just try and stop thinking - just sit or stand or lie still and watch and observe the breathing and the thoughts and then watch and observe who is doing the watching and observing - twinc

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

re LOL see Lk.6:25 - so lets see the Majesty and intelligence of our Creator and Maker and give the due glory rightly back to HIM, instead of claiming it for ourselves and creating an acceptable God of ourselves[the idol of idols] for truly "in HIM we move and live and have our being" - HE knows us better than we know ourselves and knew left to us we would individually very quickly die and the human race and others also become extinct - left to ourselves we would only want to breath now and again or not sustain it for very long, or only do it when we felt like it and not at all when asleep - it is only in the like of Yoga classes that we concentrate on breathing for ourselves and even then twist and thwart and misconstrue the whole point of the exercise by getting entangled in the techniques rather than the [hidden] message - prove it for yourself just try and stop breathing - likewise we do not think but thoughts occur, so prove it for yourself just try and stop thinking - just sit or stand or lie still and watch and observe the breathing and the thoughts and then watch and observe who is doing the watching and observing - twinc

Now why didn't you say so in the first place???!!!!!

 

[Free]

well then, since you insist - this is idolatry - because you do not breathe - you only think you do - in fact you do not even think but only think you think - so go on ask me what has not breathing have to do with intelligent design - twinc

No, we think and breathe.

 

[twinc]

No, we think and breathe.

in HIM we move and live and have our being[Acts 17:24,25 and 28- also see Job 33:4 and Dan.5:23 re the breath of life and the original post re the saying and the song - twinc

 

[Free]

in HIM we move and live and have our being[Acts 17:24,25 and 28- also see Job 33:4 and Dan.5:23 re the breath of life - twinc

Those passages don't prove your point; they don't say what you are making them out to say. We think and breathe because we are created to think and breathe. It simply isn't not biblical to believe that we don't actually think or breathe for ourselves.

Rom 12:3 For by the grace given to me I say to everyone among you not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think with sober judgment, each according to the measure of faith that God has assigned. (ESV)

Phil 3:15 Let those of us who are mature think this way, and if in anything you think otherwise, God will reveal that also to you. (ESV)

Phil 4:8 Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things. (ESV)

Etc.

Perhaps the best evidence is that we all think thoughts we ought not to think and we all have erroneous thoughts about the Bible and life. You are free to attribute such thoughts to God if you want, but you would be in wrong for doing so.

 

[twinc]

Those passages don't prove your point; they don't say what you are making them out to say. We think and breathe because we are created to think and breathe. It simply isn't not biblical to believe that we don't actually think or breathe for ourselves.

Rom 12:3 For by the grace given to me I say to everyone among you not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think with sober judgment, each according to the measure of faith that God has assigned. (ESV)

Phil 3:15 Let those of us who are mature think this way, and if in anything you think otherwise, God will reveal that also to you. (ESV)

Phil 4:8 Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things. (ESV)

Etc.

Perhaps the best evidence is that we all think thoughts we ought not to think and we all have erroneous thoughts about the Bible and life. You are free to attribute such thoughts to God if you want, but you would be in wrong for doing so.

there is no doubt or dispute here that thoughts occur and "my thoughts are not your thoughts" and we do not really breathe - btw does the thought come before the think or after - just a thought I will have to think about a bit more - twinc