Most Everyone Has Now Received the Mark of the Beast, Because it is Paper Money and Fiat Currency

[ratoncillopaisa1986]

Most people in the world do not perceive that paper money and fiat currency are the true mark of the beast of Revelation. The prophecy regarding the mark of the beast in Revelation was not talking about literal implants that would be received on the right hand or forehead, but it was figuratively talking about a forbidden form of money that all humanity would adopt to buy and sell with, which today comes in the form of paper money and fiat currency. Which is a new form of money, around the last 100 years. Before this time money was gold and silver, for thousands of years, since the beginning of the nations. The value of gold and silver was based on weight, where 10 ozt of gold is greater than 1 ozt of gold. So its value is true, because it is the measure of a tangible commodity. Each nation previously had their own name of a weight, such as "pounds" or "pesos" or even "dollars", by which gold was measured, to buy and sell. Whereas the value of paper money and fiat currency is merely imaginary, where intrinsically a bill imprinted with the number 10 is no different than a bill imprinted with the number 1. Only the number is different, but the measure of the paper itself is the same. So its value is false, because its value measures nothing and represents nothing. When paper money was introduced into the world around 100 years, it was redeemable in gold, because people then knew that the paper was not the money itself, but the gold it represented. And in the USA an executive order was issued by the President commanding all citizens to trade their gold to the Federal Reserve Bank for paper money, or they would be thrown in jail. So most people, if not everyone, gave in, and traded their gold for paper money. They were all deceived and forced into participating in this fraud. Paper money was first exchanged for $21 USD per 1 ozt of gold, and also $21 COP per 1 ozt of gold. And as the years and decades passed by, the governments and banks devalued the paper money, and then eventually took away the backing of gold from the paper money, which is when it also became fiat currency, which is a form of money without any intrinsic value nor backing whatsoever. The banks erased the "redeemable in gold" writing from the paper monies. And all humanity was left with mere paper and numbers to buy and sell with. And today on July 12, 2023, 1 ozt of gold costs around $1,953 USD or $8,120,747 COP. Gold has not gone up in value, because 1 ozt is the same 1 ozt, but rather, paper money has been devalued astronomically over time, and has left the world impoverished and in debt. And all humanity has forgotten that gold and silver was money, and has been deceived into believing that the paper is the money itself. And the former names of weights that were called "pounds" or "pesos" or "dollars" no longer mean weight nor any value in gold, so these became false weights. Which is forbidden by the Torah, which commands, "you shall have righteous weights". Paper money and fiat currency is a more elaborate and deceptive form of a false weight than the false weights thieves used to use on a balance to steal more of something. They would make a shekel weigh more than its standard weight so that they could take more of something on the balance, so it was a false weight. And as the governments and banks continue devaluing fiat currency, the savings and incomes of all humanity are worth less and less day by day, which then causes prices to inflate, which then causes everyone to need to borrow to live. So eventually the banks become the owners of everything through debt, not just the gold they stole from all humanity, that they have locked away in the great vaults of the world. And all humanity becomes poorer and poorer, through debt, because of fiat currency. It is the greatest scheme of thievery the world has ever seen. What an Egyptian earns in one day in their fiat currency is enough to buy food for one day in the USA. And in Venezuela people are eating out of garbages because of the hyperinflation of their fiat currency. God forbids paper money and fiat currency, as he commanded in the Torah of Moses, and the sin of false weights will be one of the reasons God will destroy the world at the return of Yeshua, for it is the mark of the beast. As it is written, "hear this, you who devour the poor and bring an end to the humble and afflicted, using an ephah that is too small, a shekel that is too big, and tilting a false balance, shall not the earth tremble on this account and everyone mourn who dwells in it?". Amos 8:4-10. And even the US Constitution also forbids paper money, for only gold and silver can be money, as it is written, "no state shall make any thing but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts". United States Constitution, Article 1, Section 10, Clause 1. The founding fathers of the USA were also completely against paper money, as they wrote, "paper money has had the effect in your state that it will ever have, to ruin commerce, oppress the honest, and open the door to every species of fraud and injustice". George Washington. 1732-1799, Founding Father, 1st US President, 'Father of the Country' In letter to J. Bowen, Rhode Island, Jan. 9, 1787. And also, "the Constitution of the United States unquestionably intended to secure to the people a circulating medium of gold and silver. But the establishment of a national bank by Congress, with the privilege of issuing paper money receivable in the payment of the public dues, and the unfortunate course of legislation in the several States upon the same subject, drove from general circulation the constitutional currency and substituted one of paper in its place". Andrew Jackson. 1837, Farewell Address. And also, "we are in danger of being overwhelmed with irredeemable paper, mere paper, representing not gold nor silver; no sir, representing nothing but broken promises, bad faith, bankrupt corporations, cheated creditors and a ruined people". Daniel Webster. 1782-1852, US Senator Speech in the Senate, 1833. And also, "of all contrivances for cheating the laboring classes of mankind, none has been more effective than that which deludes them with paper money". Daniel Webster. 1782-1852, US Senator. And so everyone in the world is caused to sin by there mere acceptance and possession of paper money and fiat currency. And it is the mere acceptance of fiat currency by everyone in the world that causes it to continue circulating, which is why anyone who accepts it as money is worthy of the lake of fire. Accepting paper money and fiat currency is the equivalent of figuratively receiving the mark of the beast. And the only way to remove the mark of the beast figuratively is by renouncing and getting rid of all money once and for all, which is a true test of belief and obedience in our time. And until someone renounces money and gets rid of it all once and for all he will continue having the mark of the beast, until destruction. The right hand symbolizes possessing fiat currency, which then gives someone authority to buy and sell. And the forehead symbolizes debt of fiat currency, which also gives someone the ability to buy and sell, using credit cards and auto loans and mortgages.

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[Paul Timothy]

TL:DR.

But according to what I have read... who has not used fiat currency?
So everyone is going to Hell. Why bother with religion at all?

 

[for_his_glory]

If it's all about paper money then everyone is doomed to be cast into the lake of fire in judgement. Here is the mark of the beast and its worldly power according to scripture and Biblical history.

A mark can mean a visible impression, identifying seal, inscription or label and also the thoughts of the mind and actions of the hand. The mark of the beast is just that which is full of political self governed power that disguises itself as a religious system full of symbolism that is very deceptive to those who have no Spiritual discernment. From its throne will be displayed many signs and wonders that will promise peace and safety during the time of great tribulation as Gods wrath will be poured out during the seven trumpets sounding. Many will take this mark believing it to be a visible sign of God, but with a great falling away from God will be deceived and separated from God forever, Rev 13, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12

The mark of the beast is to those who have no understanding of the word of God as they reject the teachings of Christ as they are lovers of self, 2 Timothy 3:1-7, and will allow themselves to be deceived in their mind as they reach out with their hands and bow down to this Luciferians false religion that promises them provision, peace and safety during the time of Gods great wrath in the end of days as they have no faith in Jesus who supplies all our needs, Philippians 4:19. To understand this mark of the beast we first have to understand what and who this beast is and its controlling deceptive power.

Galatians 6:17 From henceforth let no man trouble me: for I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus.

Revelation Chapter 13

John saw a beast (beast is often referred to as nations in scripture) rise up out of the sea having seven heads and ten horns and upon his horns ten crowns, (crowns denotes Kings) and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. The beast rises up out of the sea as the sea here is symbolic of people and nations as in a sea of humanity, Daniel Chapter 7:1-8; Revelation 17:15. This beast is a Luciferian system of political, economic, military, educational, enviromental and false religious power that Satan has always worked through.

The seven heads are that of the Babylonian Empire, Medo/Persian Empire, Grecian Empire and Roman Empire.
Seven remaining nations that still exist today:

Babylonian Empire:
(Iraq) The lion represents the winged lions that guarded the royal places of Babylon. This Empire ran from 2000BC - 1759BC

Medo – Persian Empire:
(Iran) The ribs of the bear are part of the consuming greed that devours the first empire. This Empire ran approximately from 536BC - 330BC

Grecian Empire:
(Greece, Turkey, Syria, Egypt) Four wings of the leopard described the swiftness of this empire that ran from 334-331BC. It wrestled world dominion from Medo-Persia. After the death of Alexander the Great the kingdom was divided into four minor kingdoms that continued as prominent factors in world politics until the Roman Empire gathered it back as one kingdom.

Roman Empire: (little horn, Daniel 8:9-14, 23-27)
Iron represents the stronghold this nation had. Daniel chapter 2 mentions the iron element of this empire that it to will be divided and broken as God will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed.
This Empire ran from 753BC -27BC

The ten horns represent the nations the Roman Empire scattered to when the deadly wound was put upon them, Daniel 7:23-25; Rev 13. The deadly wound came in 1798 when General Berthier of France captured Pope Pius VI, who soon died in captivity in Valence, on August 29, 1799. Seven of these nations are the ancestors of the modern nations of Europe.

These ten nations were the Anglo-Saxons (English), the Franks (French), Suevi (Portuguese), Visigoths (Spanish), Burgundians (Swiss), Alemanni (Germans), Lombards (Italians), Ostrogoths, Heruli, and the Vandals in northern Africa. The last three being Ostrogoths, Heruli, and the Vandals had already been destroyed by the Roman Empire before their deadly wound came in 1798.

What was and was not and yet to come has always been the Roman Empire that has always persecuted Gods chosen from the foundation of the world whose names is found written in the Lambs book of life. The beast out of the sea is the revived Roman Empire as its deadly wound has been healed as we see in John’s vision as Satan gives this beast his power, seat and great authority. They, being those whose names are not found written in the Lambs book of life bow down to the authority of the beast and its false religious system as they are deceived having no truth or understanding found in them as they are lead about like a bull with a ring in its nose as they bow down to this pagan authority, Hosea 4:6, 7; 2 Thessalonians 2:3.

The beast was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies and power was given unto him to continue for three and a half years which equals 1260 days, Daniel 7:25; 12:7; Revelation 11:2, 3. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints and to overcome them and power was given him over all kindred’s, and tongues, and nations. Daniel 7:24, 25 and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, He will think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Another beast comes up out of the earth that looks like a lamb (false Christ) with two horns. The two horns represent the Old Roman Empire that received its deadly wound back in 1798 that caused them to scatter into the other ten nations (horns). The wound was healed in 1929.

Here is the patience and the faith of the saints as they wait upon the Lords return. They will have to wholeheartedly draw on the Lords strength without hindrance while enduring the 3 1/2 years of this beast in the end of days.

 

[ratoncillopaisa1986]

If it's all about paper money then everyone is doomed to be cast into the lake of fire in judgement. Here is the mark of the beast and its worldly power according to scripture and Biblical history.

A mark can mean a visible impression, identifying seal, inscription or label and also the thoughts of the mind and actions of the hand. The mark of the beast is just that which is full of political self governed power that disguises itself as a religious system full of symbolism that is very deceptive to those who have no Spiritual discernment. From its throne will be displayed many signs and wonders that will promise peace and safety during the time of great tribulation as Gods wrath will be poured out during the seven trumpets sounding. Many will take this mark believing it to be a visible sign of God, but with a great falling away from God will be deceived and separated from God forever, Rev 13, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12

The mark of the beast is to those who have no understanding of the word of God as they reject the teachings of Christ as they are lovers of self, 2 Timothy 3:1-7, and will allow themselves to be deceived in their mind as they reach out with their hands and bow down to this Luciferians false religion that promises them provision, peace and safety during the time of Gods great wrath in the end of days as they have no faith in Jesus who supplies all our needs, Philippians 4:19. To understand this mark of the beast we first have to understand what and who this beast is and its controlling deceptive power.

Galatians 6:17 From henceforth let no man trouble me: for I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus.

Revelation Chapter 13

John saw a beast (beast is often referred to as nations in scripture) rise up out of the sea having seven heads and ten horns and upon his horns ten crowns, (crowns denotes Kings) and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. The beast rises up out of the sea as the sea here is symbolic of people and nations as in a sea of humanity, Daniel Chapter 7:1-8; Revelation 17:15. This beast is a Luciferian system of political, economic, military, educational, enviromental and false religious power that Satan has always worked through.

The seven heads are that of the Babylonian Empire, Medo/Persian Empire, Grecian Empire and Roman Empire.
Seven remaining nations that still exist today:

Babylonian Empire:
(Iraq) The lion represents the winged lions that guarded the royal places of Babylon. This Empire ran from 2000BC - 1759BC

Medo – Persian Empire:
(Iran) The ribs of the bear are part of the consuming greed that devours the first empire. This Empire ran approximately from 536BC - 330BC

Grecian Empire:
(Greece, Turkey, Syria, Egypt) Four wings of the leopard described the swiftness of this empire that ran from 334-331BC. It wrestled world dominion from Medo-Persia. After the death of Alexander the Great the kingdom was divided into four minor kingdoms that continued as prominent factors in world politics until the Roman Empire gathered it back as one kingdom.

Roman Empire: (little horn, Daniel 8:9-14, 23-27)
Iron represents the stronghold this nation had. Daniel chapter 2 mentions the iron element of this empire that it to will be divided and broken as God will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed.
This Empire ran from 753BC -27BC

The ten horns represent the nations the Roman Empire scattered to when the deadly wound was put upon them, Daniel 7:23-25; Rev 13. The deadly wound came in 1798 when General Berthier of France captured Pope Pius VI, who soon died in captivity in Valence, on August 29, 1799. Seven of these nations are the ancestors of the modern nations of Europe.

These ten nations were the Anglo-Saxons (English), the Franks (French), Suevi (Portuguese), Visigoths (Spanish), Burgundians (Swiss), Alemanni (Germans), Lombards (Italians), Ostrogoths, Heruli, and the Vandals in northern Africa. The last three being Ostrogoths, Heruli, and the Vandals had already been destroyed by the Roman Empire before their deadly wound came in 1798.

What was and was not and yet to come has always been the Roman Empire that has always persecuted Gods chosen from the foundation of the world whose names is found written in the Lambs book of life. The beast out of the sea is the revived Roman Empire as its deadly wound has been healed as we see in John’s vision as Satan gives this beast his power, seat and great authority. They, being those whose names are not found written in the Lambs book of life bow down to the authority of the beast and its false religious system as they are deceived having no truth or understanding found in them as they are lead about like a bull with a ring in its nose as they bow down to this pagan authority, Hosea 4:6, 7; 2 Thessalonians 2:3.

The beast was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies and power was given unto him to continue for three and a half years which equals 1260 days, Daniel 7:25; 12:7; Revelation 11:2, 3. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints and to overcome them and power was given him over all kindred’s, and tongues, and nations. Daniel 7:24, 25 and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, He will think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Another beast comes up out of the earth that looks like a lamb (false Christ) with two horns. The two horns represent the Old Roman Empire that received its deadly wound back in 1798 that caused them to scatter into the other ten nations (horns). The wound was healed in 1929.

Here is the patience and the faith of the saints as they wait upon the Lords return. They will have to wholeheartedly draw on the Lords strength without hindrance while enduring the 3 1/2 years of this beast in the end of days.

Yes and no. The 2nd beast is not Rome again, it is the USA. The President and Vice President are the two horns of the 2nd beast, for the Vice President is the head of the Senate, which is the head of Congress, and the President appoints the judges of the Supreme Court, so the USA is only ruled by 2 people. Rather, the 8th and final head of the 1st beast of Revelation is Rome again, for beneath Vatican City in Rome is the now forming United States of Europe, which is the revived Roman empire, which will be given authority by 10 European nations, which are the 10 horns of the 1st beast of Revelation.

 

[Iconoclast]

What are you posting???

 

[Hidden In Him]

Most people in the world do not perceive that paper money and fiat currency are the true mark of the beast of Revelation. The prophecy regarding the mark of the beast in Revelation was not talking about literal implants that would be received on the right hand or forehead, but it was figuratively talking about a forbidden form of money that all humanity would adopt to buy and sell with, which today comes in the form of paper money and fiat currency. Which is a new form of money, around the last 100 years.

Paper currency has been around for a lot longer than a 100 years. It was first developed in Tang dynasty China during the 7th century, and later spread throughout the Mongol Empire, and then into Europe by the 13th century.

You also appear to be assuming it will be here forever, but it likely won't much longer. It will eventually be phased out for purely digital accounting.

The 2nd beast is not Rome again, it is the USA. The President and Vice President are the two horns of the 2nd beast, for the Vice President is the head of the Senate, which is the head of Congress, and the President appoints the judges of the Supreme Court, so the USA is only ruled by 2 people.

This eschatological view is exceedingly Amero-centric (for lack of a better word), and badly tunnel-visioned as a result. The United States is already falling from its place as the most powerful nation on earth, so taking the prophetic focus away from the nation of Israel and the nations surrounding is a mistake on several counts.

 

[ratoncillopaisa1986]

Paper currency has been around for a lot longer than a 100 years. It was first developed in Tang dynasty China during the 7th century, and later spread throughout the Mongol Empire, and then into Europe by the 13th century.

You also appear to be assuming it will be here forever, but it likely won't much longer. It will eventually be phased out for purely digital accounting.


This eschatological view is exceedingly Amero-centric (for lack of a better word), and badly tunnel-visioned as a result. The United States is already falling from its place as the most powerful nation on earth, so taking the prophetic focus away from the nation of Israel and the nations surrounding is a mistake on several counts.

Certainly paper money existed before the advent of the Federal Reserve notes, but it is the Federal Reserve notes that truly began the global widespread use of paper money in the last 100 years. That is why the 2nd beast of Revelation is the one that brings the mark of the beast to the world, which represents the USA and its promulgation of paper money and fiat currency to the world. These are undeniable historical facts.

 

[Hidden In Him]

Certainly paper money existed before the advent of the Federal Reserve notes, but it is the Federal Reserve notes that truly began the global widespread use of paper money in the last 100 years. That is why the 2nd beast of Revelation is the one that brings the mark of the beast to the world, which represents the USA and its promulgation of paper money and fiat currency to the world. These are undeniable historical facts.

Most of the people on this forum are well aware of the Federal reserve and the removal of the US dollar from gold backing. It's very old news. The problem is that you are divorcing Biblical prophecy from its Hebrew roots and turning it into something that has primarily to do with a nation that didn't even exist during either Old or New Testament times.

That's kind of an undeniable historical fact too.

 

[ratoncillopaisa1986]

Most of the people on this forum are well aware of the Federal reserve and the removal of the US dollar from gold backing. It's very old news. The problem is that you are divorcing Biblical prophecy from its Hebrew roots and turning it into something that has primarily to do with a nation that didn't even exist during either Old or New Testament times.

That's kind of an undeniable historical fact too.

Yet the USA rose up in the image of Rome, in its form of government, a republic. And Rome certainly has much to do with prophecy, as the 4th beast of Daniel, and as the 1st beast of Revelation as the 6th head. And the USA has setup republics all over the world, in the image of Rome. And has promulgated fiat currency to the entire world. And it is also a very powerful nation, "bringing fire down from heaven", with weapons. And exerting influence all over the world. And it is ruled by two persons, the President and the Vice President. These are all characteristics of the 2nd beast of Revelation no doubt. Yet the USA is a lesser player than the nations represented by the 1st beast of Revelation and the prostitute of Revelation. Which today are now the forming United States of Europe, as the 8th and final head, and Vatican City in Rome that rides the 1st beast of Revelation. She is above all nations, ruling over all nations through central banks and fiat currency.

 

[Hidden In Him]

Yet the USA rose up in the image of Rome, in its form of government, a republic. And Rome certainly has much to do with prophecy, as the 4th beast of Daniel, and as the 1st beast of Revelation as the 6th head. And the USA has setup republics all over the world, in the image of Rome. And has promulgated fiat currency to the entire world. And it is also a very powerful nation, "bringing fire down from heaven", with weapons. And exerting influence all over the world. And it is ruled by two persons, the President and the Vice President. These are all characteristics of the 2nd beast of Revelation no doubt.

You're repeating yourself, but we can read, Lol.

Well, good luck pursuing it. You're going to find out your view was almost completely divorced from scripture itself, but I suppose everyone has to learn in their own time and on their own schedule of spiritual growth.

God bless, and thanks anyway.
HiH

 

[for_his_glory]

Yes and no. The 2nd beast is not Rome again, it is the USA. The President and Vice President are the two horns of the 2nd beast, for the Vice President is the head of the Senate, which is the head of Congress, and the President appoints the judges of the Supreme Court, so the USA is only ruled by 2 people. Rather, the 8th and final head of the 1st beast of Revelation is Rome again, for beneath Vatican City in Rome is the now forming United States of Europe, which is the revived Roman empire, which will be given authority by 10 European nations, which are the 10 horns of the 1st beast of Revelation.

But, the second beast is a false prophet/son of perdition, 2Thessalonians 2:1-12, in which the beast out of the sea is a global enmity, not just coming out of one country, but controls all countries and nations on every continent.

The beast rises up out of the sea as the sea here is symbolic of people and nations as in a sea of humanity, Daniel Chapter 7:1-8; Revelation17:15. This beast is the Jesuit Luciferians with their headquarters in the Church of Gesu in Rome that is in close proximity to the Vatican. The Pontifex Maximus (Pope) god king religious system is who Satan gives his seat and authority to. Rome had total control from538 AD to 1798 which equals 1260 years that equal time, times and a half time as once again history will repeat itself in the annihilation of Gods anointed during the end of days.

The seven heads are that of the Babylonian Empire, Medo/Persian Empire, Grecian Empire and Roman Empire that I explained earlier in who the ten nations were. The ten horns represent the nations the Roman Empire scattered to when the deadly wound was put upon them, Daniel7:23-25; Rev 13. The deadly wound came in 1798 when General Berthier of France captured Pope Pius VI, who soon died in captivity in Valence, on August 29, 1799. Seven of these nations are the ancestors of the modern nations of Europe.

These ten nations were the Anglo-Saxons (English), the Franks (French),Suevi (Portuguese), Visigoths (Spanish), Burgundians (Swiss),Alemanni (Germans), Lombards (Italians), Ostrogoths, Heruli, and the Vandals in northern Africa. The last three being Ostrogoths, Heruli, and the Vandals had already been destroyed by the Roman Empire before their deadly wound came in 1798.

What was, was Roman rule from 538 AD with Emperor Justinian’s decree andunder the military protection of Belisarius until the deadly wound, was not, came in 1798 by General Berthier who made his entrance into Rome and abolished the Roman government and established a secular one. This was the time when Rome persecuted the Christians and killed them which were approximately 500 million people slain for the cause of their faith in Jesus. In 1801 Napoleon made an agreement with Pope Pius II establishing Napoleon’s Organic Articles of granting the Tribunal and the Corps legislative partial control of the concordat in order to help the state monitor any politically harmful Catholic or Protestant movements or activities. The wound was largely healed in 1929 when Mussolini gave the Vatican back to the Pope and established it as a country in it's own right in the Lateran Treaty.

What was and was not and yet to come has always been the Roman Empire that has always persecuted Gods chosen from the foundation of the world whose names is found written in the Lambs book of life. The beast out of the sea is the revived Roman Empire as its deadly wound is now healed as we see in John’s vision as Satan gives this beast his power, seat and great authority. They, being those whose names are not found written in the Lambs book of life bow down to Satan and the beast (Roman Catholic Pontifex Maximus universal religious system) as they are deceived in having no truth or understanding found in them as they are lead about like a bull with a ring in its nose as they bow down to the pagan authority of the Pope, Hosea 4:6, 7; 2Thessalonians 2:3.​

 

[ratoncillopaisa1986]

But, the second beast is a false prophet/son of perdition, 2Thessalonians 2:1-12, in which the beast out of the sea is a global enmity, not just coming out of one country, but controls all countries and nations on every continent.

The beast rises up out of the sea as the sea here is symbolic of people and nations as in a sea of humanity, Daniel Chapter 7:1-8; Revelation17:15. This beast is the Jesuit Luciferians with their headquarters in the Church of Gesu in Rome that is in close proximity to the Vatican. The Pontifex Maximus (Pope) god king religious system is who Satan gives his seat and authority to. Rome had total control from538 AD to 1798 which equals 1260 years that equal time, times and a half time as once again history will repeat itself in the annihilation of Gods anointed during the end of days.

The seven heads are that of the Babylonian Empire, Medo/Persian Empire, Grecian Empire and Roman Empire that I explained earlier in who the ten nations were. The ten horns represent the nations the Roman Empire scattered to when the deadly wound was put upon them, Daniel7:23-25; Rev 13. The deadly wound came in 1798 when General Berthier of France captured Pope Pius VI, who soon died in captivity in Valence, on August 29, 1799. Seven of these nations are the ancestors of the modern nations of Europe.

These ten nations were the Anglo-Saxons (English), the Franks (French),Suevi (Portuguese), Visigoths (Spanish), Burgundians (Swiss),Alemanni (Germans), Lombards (Italians), Ostrogoths, Heruli, and the Vandals in northern Africa. The last three being Ostrogoths, Heruli, and the Vandals had already been destroyed by the Roman Empire before their deadly wound came in 1798.

What was, was Roman rule from 538 AD with Emperor Justinian’s decree andunder the military protection of Belisarius until the deadly wound, was not, came in 1798 by General Berthier who made his entrance into Rome and abolished the Roman government and established a secular one. This was the time when Rome persecuted the Christians and killed them which were approximately 500 million people slain for the cause of their faith in Jesus. In 1801 Napoleon made an agreement with Pope Pius II establishing Napoleon’s Organic Articles of granting the Tribunal and the Corps legislative partial control of the concordat in order to help the state monitor any politically harmful Catholic or Protestant movements or activities. The wound was largely healed in 1929 when Mussolini gave the Vatican back to the Pope and established it as a country in it's own right in the Lateran Treaty.

What was and was not and yet to come has always been the Roman Empire that has always persecuted Gods chosen from the foundation of the world whose names is found written in the Lambs book of life. The beast out of the sea is the revived Roman Empire as its deadly wound is now healed as we see in John’s vision as Satan gives this beast his power, seat and great authority. They, being those whose names are not found written in the Lambs book of life bow down to Satan and the beast (Roman Catholic Pontifex Maximus universal religious system) as they are deceived in having no truth or understanding found in them as they are lead about like a bull with a ring in its nose as they bow down to the pagan authority of the Pope, Hosea 4:6, 7; 2Thessalonians 2:3.​

Beasts are always nations in prophecy. The 1st beast pertains to the nations that ruled over Israel. First the Egyptians. Then the Assyrians. Then the Babylonians. Then the Medo-Persians. Then the Greeks. Then the Romans. Then the Arabs. Then the United States of Europe will be the 8th, with Vatican City above it, as the prostitute of Babylon, seated in Rome.

Whereas the 2nd beast of Revelation is the USA, which came in the image of Rome.

Both beasts exert global influence.

 

[for_his_glory]

Yet the USA rose up in the image of Rome, in its form of government, a republic. And Rome certainly has much to do with prophecy, as the 4th beast of Daniel, and as the 1st beast of Revelation as the 6th head. And the USA has setup republics all over the world, in the image of Rome. And has promulgated fiat currency to the entire world. And it is also a very powerful nation, "bringing fire down from heaven", with weapons. And exerting influence all over the world. And it is ruled by two persons, the President and the Vice President. These are all characteristics of the 2nd beast of Revelation no doubt. Yet the USA is a lesser player than the nations represented by the 1st beast of Revelation and the prostitute of Revelation. Which today are now the forming United States of Europe, as the 8th and final head, and Vatican City in Rome that rides the 1st beast of Revelation. She is above all nations, ruling over all nations through central banks and fiat currency.

Here is the founding of America as we need to direct our attention on who the beast out of the sea (Holy See) is within the formation of America by the Jesuit provincials.

The French Jesuits were the first to arrive on American soil to explore the woodlands of Maine and celebrated the first known Mass at the mouth of the Kennebec River in 1611. Cecil Calvert who was the second Lord Baltimore of England followed after the death of his father George Calvert, 1st Baron Baltimore and purposed the founding of Maryland in 1634 to create a refuge for Roman Catholics who were still being persecuted in Protestant England. Maryland became known as a haven for Roman Catholics in the New World.

Cecil governed Maryland for forty-two years. In 1669 the surrounding land which is now Washington D.C. belonged to a man named Francis Pope who called the area Rome and its river inlet Tiber. There was a patent in Somerset, now Worcester Co., Maryland by the name Rome patented by a Pope. Francis Pope was the Justice of Peace of Charles County Maryland. America became known as the United States of America in1776 by the Continental Congress.

On March 31, 1791 a few years before the papal government was abolished in Rome around 1798 and reestablished in 1929 George Washington, an Episcopalian and a 33 degree Freemason who was thought to convert to Catholicism, constituted the District of Columbia as the seat of the national government. He commissioned the design and building of the seat of government in Washington DC to Daniel Carroll of Duddington. Daniel’s father, John Carroll, was Catholic and one of the principal landed proprietors of the District. Mayor Charles Pierre L'Enfant, a French Catholic, was employed to furnish a layout of the city and to him the credit of its Luciferians symbolic Rome design is mainly due. James Hoban, a Catholic, won by competition the prize offered for a plan of the President's house and the White House is constructed in accordance with the Roman Coliseum design.

The corner-stone was laid October 13, 1792 by George Washington whom also officiated at the laying of the corner-stone of the north wing of the Capitol on September 18, 1793. The site which the Capitol occupies was part of the land of Daniel Carroll and was a gift from him to in order to form the government housing of the United States government. Robert Brent, a Catholic and nephew of Bishop Carroll, was the first mayor who was annually reappointed by Presidents Jefferson and Madison until 1812.​

 

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Beasts are always nations in prophecy. The 1st beast pertains to the nations that ruled over Israel. First the Egyptians. Then the Assyrians. Then the Babylonians. Then the Medo-Persians. Then the Greeks. Then the Romans. Then the Arabs. Then the United States of Europe will be the 8th, with Vatican City above it, as the prostitute of Babylon, seated in Rome.

Whereas the 2nd beast of Revelation is the USA, which came in the image of Rome.

Both beasts exert global influence.

I agree that beast are always nations as the first nation was founded by Nimrod (search the history) that became the first Empire being the Babylonian Empire followed by the take over of the other three Empires listed below. Who was and is and yet to come has always been the Roman Empire being the greatest of all four Empires that has always persecuted to death those who are God's own.

Below is that of the seven remaining nations described as four beasts in Daniel 7:1-8 and the three kingdoms that were subdued by the little horn, which is the Roman Empire.

The three kingdoms that were subdued by the little horn of Daniel 7:24 are the Heruli, Vandals, and Ostrogoths who were eliminated by the year 538 AD under the leadership of the Eastern Roman Emperor Justinian whose deadly wound came in 1798.

Seven remaining nations that still exist today:

Babylonian Empire:
(Iraq) The lion represents the winged lions that guarded the royal places of Babylon. This Empire ran from 2000BC - 1759BC

Medo – Persian Empire:
(Iran) The ribs of the bear are part of the consuming greed that devours the first empire.

Grecian Empire:
(Greece, Turkey, Syria, Egypt) Four wings of the leopard described the swiftness of this empire that ran from 334-331BC. It wrestled world dominion from Medo-Persia. After the death of Alexander the Great the kingdom was divided into four minor kingdoms that continued as prominent factors in world politics until the Roman Empire gathered it back as one kingdom.

Roman Empire: (little horn, Daniel 8:9-14, 23-27)
Iron represents the stronghold this nation had. Daniel chapter 2 mentions the iron element of this empire that it to will be divided and broken as God will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed.
This Empire ran from 753BC -27BC

The seven heads are that of the Babylonian Empire, Medo/Persian Empire, Grecian Empire and Roman Empire. The ten horns represent the nations the Roman Empire scattered to when the deadly wound was put upon them, Daniel 7:23-25; Rev 13:3. The deadly wound came in 1798 when General Berthier of France, who made his entrance into Rome, abolished the Roman government and established a secular one and captured Pope Pius VI, who soon died in captivity in Valence, on August 29, 1799. In 1801 Napoleon made an agreement with Pope Pius II establishing Napoleon’s Organic Articles of granting the Tribunal and the Corps legislative partial control of the concordat in order to help the state monitor any politically harmful Catholic or Protestant movements or activities. The wound was largely healed in 1929 when Mussolini gave the Vatican back to Pope Pius XI and established it as a country in it's own right in the Lateran Treaty.