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Once you set up any other religion above the others...

Classik

Classik

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Not necessarily addressing Barbarian. http://christianforums.net/Fellowsh...ment-to-remove-bibles-from-va-hopitals.64273/

I lifted this from another thread, but I wonder whats wrong with lifting or promoting Christianity above any other "religion". Does the bible want us to rate them on the same scale: equal? That was why Jesus (or His teaching) was seen as a troublemaker. He was not going to please the people by becoming mute, He did the right thing.

Better to be unAmerican in defense of Christianity than to be American to the detriment of our faith.





Barbarian said:
That the base commander chose to elevate the Bible above the sacred writing of other faiths was the problem. He probably wouldn't have had any trouble if other faiths were included in the disaplay.

This is where they always mess up. There's no problem with the miliitary seeing to the spiritual needs of servicemen and their families. But once you set up any particular religion above the others, you've become unAmerican.

Too bad that talk show host hasn't found God. If he had, he wouldn't be trying to hitch God to his political ideology.

There was a scandal some years ago, when "Christian dominionists" tried to infiltrate the Air Force Academy. As James Madison said, such people do grave damage to Christianity.
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Classik said:
I lifted this from another thread, but I wonder whats wrong with lifting or promoting Christianity above any other "religion".
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Nothing at all, unless you ask the government to do it for you. As James Madison observed, that has always lead to corruption and harm to God's church.

Better to be unAmerican in defense of Christianity than to be American to the detriment of our faith.
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That was Madison's point. Government support for Christianity has always corrupted Christians living in that regime.
 
Barbarian said:
Nothing at all, unless you ask the government to do it for you. As James Madison observed, that has always lead to corruption and harm to God's church.



That was Madison's point. Government support for Christianity has always corrupted Christians living in that regime.
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Thanks for discovering the thread. However, what's your stance on this issue?
 
Freedom of religion, freedom of conscience. Let people believe as they will, so long as they don't impose on others. And do not try to impose collective guilt on those who are not guilty.
 
It's like this: we are free to say that the sky is blue, we are free to believe so and call contradicting views wrong. But someone else is just as free to say that the sky is yellow, even if that would be wrong. They are still free to say and believe so and to try to convince others to their thinking.
 
The sky is yellow.
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Actually, I think advocating for one's religion is great, it's what we're supposed to do if we are committed to our beliefs. What we should not do is to use the power of government, nor our own power, to force our beliefs onto others.

I've just finished reading Galileo's Daughter by Dava Sobel. It's a reminder of just how corrupt and powerful a church can be when it take's on the authority of a state government. No theocracy is ever going to be anything except corrupt until our Lord returns to set up His kingdom, remaking the world.
 
Out of curiosity, does anyone know how bible's in hotels and hospitals became such a staple? I might be remembering this wrong but I think it was started by the Gideons, who distributed bible's for free. They started in 1889. I don't know when they went to hotels or hospitals, (I think it was them), but sometime after their start they branched out to supply a Gideon bible to those places.

If anyone wanted to do the same thing for a different religion, it might be hard to start, and expensive, but they could put forth the effort instead of complaining that one religion is being favored over other religions. Expecially when that religon's influence in the culture came at the effort and hard work of devote Christians motivated for their cause.
 
Barbarian said:
Freedom of religion, freedom of conscience. Let people believe as they will, so long as they don't impose on others. And do not try to impose collective guilt on those who are not guilty.
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Does it apply to our children, our very little children? The ones under our care
 
Classik said:
Better to be unAmerican in defense of Christianity than to be American to the detriment of our faith.
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It is significant that you used the term "unAmerican". If you will take note, the enemies of America are now using this term to condemn those who are actually patriots and support the Constitution and Christianity, and wish to make America great again.

As to upholding Christ and the Bible AS SUPREME, that should be the goal of every Christian. There is no other Savior, nor is there any other salvation.
 
Mike S said:
Actually, I think advocating for one's religion is great, it's what we're supposed to do if we are committed to our beliefs. What we should not do is to use the power of government, nor our own power, to force our beliefs onto others.

I've just finished reading Galileo's Daughter by Dava Sobel. It's a reminder of just how corrupt and powerful a church can be when it take's on the authority of a state government. No theocracy is ever going to be anything except corrupt until our Lord returns to set up His kingdom, remaking the world.
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That may be true, but has very little to do with what is now called "government forcing beliefs", which is essentially just a method of prohibiting free practice, which Madison viewed as the most essential of any rights, and overrode every other right.
 
Government has no more right to promote religion than it has a right to suppress religion, a fact that the founders repeatedly emphasized. God has told us that His kingdom is not of this world, and we should not presume to overrule Him on that point.

This is why, for example, that my daughter and her friends were entirely within the law to have a prayer at the flagpole before school, but a coach who wanted to make a prayer part of practice was violating the law.

Madison had it right. Such abuses have always harmed Christianity, and have never helped it. God neither needs nor wants government help.
 
Because the Most High is unique and the name god is used to call many different gods god, I was thinking maybe

'The Most Holy High King Creator Mastor of all Power of Creation King of all Kings'
 
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