OPINION: The media will try to move on from Charlie Kirk's murder. Don't let them.

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From the link .

Amid the thousands of takeaways of the brutal assassination of Charlie Kirk, arguably the most important one is the one everybody recognized right away: They killed Charlie not because he was a frightening arch-conservative but because he was, in the main, just a normal guy.

For all his uncompromising conservative beliefs, Charlie was one of the most approachable, obliging conservative voices of the last 50 years of U.S. politics. He was the guy who would talk to anyone. His entire schtick in the conservative sphere was literally talking to people, respectfully and fairly, in public forums. He lived up to that great ideal of citizenship promoted by Theodore Roosevelt: He was not "a mere passenger" but one who "did his share in the work," cheerfully and eagerly.

That is, perhaps, why his death has been so joyously celebrated among so many progressives and liberals. Charlie was unquestionably conservative, unapologetically and vocally, but he was also someone who could engage and interface with progressives and progressive belief, discuss them, debate them, and most importantly even change minds on them. His willingness to both listen and speak to people he disagreed with — to seek out public, respectful political dialogue with people with whom he shared no political beliefs at all — made him a unique public figure in U.S. politics, and a profoundly effective one. Of course progressives hated him.


 
From the link .

Amid the thousands of takeaways of the brutal assassination of Charlie Kirk, arguably the most important one is the one everybody recognized right away: They killed Charlie not because he was a frightening arch-conservative but because he was, in the main, just a normal guy.

For all his uncompromising conservative beliefs, Charlie was one of the most approachable, obliging conservative voices of the last 50 years of U.S. politics. He was the guy who would talk to anyone. His entire schtick in the conservative sphere was literally talking to people, respectfully and fairly, in public forums. He lived up to that great ideal of citizenship promoted by Theodore Roosevelt: He was not "a mere passenger" but one who "did his share in the work," cheerfully and eagerly.

That is, perhaps, why his death has been so joyously celebrated among so many progressives and liberals. Charlie was unquestionably conservative, unapologetically and vocally, but he was also someone who could engage and interface with progressives and progressive belief, discuss them, debate them, and most importantly even change minds on them. His willingness to both listen and speak to people he disagreed with — to seek out public, respectful political dialogue with people with whom he shared no political beliefs at all — made him a unique public figure in U.S. politics, and a profoundly effective one. Of course progressives hated him.



It’s amazing just how far out of touch with reality that so many people on the left have become.

Why would wanting a strong Christian family and a free nation to live in be labeled as a facist?

Boy, the devil sure is mad a bible believing Christians who stand up for righteousness and truth.

He manifests through people he has taken captive to do his will.


America desperately needs a revival. A mighty outpouring of God’s Spirit just like the day of Pentecost.


Do it again Lord!
 
Personally, and until his murder I didn't even know his name, but from the research I've done, while Mr. Kirk may have been a born again believer, I don't find a lot on his home page of his website concerning Jesus.

So, I sit in wonder at what seems a strangely held association that people want to have with a political activist in the name of Jesus? I mean, I'm sorry the man was shot. I'm sorry that anyone in this nation or the world has their life taken away from them by the hate and anger and distrust of someone else.

But my question is 'why' is Charlie Kirk so precious to believers. He wasn't a Billy Graham. His message was arguing issues regarding some of the sins of the world, but he rarely explained the cure. Most of the powerful christian leaders who have lived a life of faith in God always talk about Jesus. That's their job.

I see christians rising up as they are about a christian who seemed to be living a life of preaching political activism against a few issues that they considered particularly grievous, although I haven't found the one where he condems the divorced people as hard as he does the sexually immoral.

Finally, is this some ideal that people have come to believe that they in their power are going to overcome people living in sin in this life? The Scriptures give no indication that such an outcome is coming. How about, unless we're a preacher with the gift of proclaiming the gospel as Billy Graham did, we all get down off of our platforms and put down our megaphones and our placards and just sit down with as many people in our circle that we can and tell them about Jesus?

The world is going to go the way that the world has been prophesied to go. Yes, here in the United States we have, for at least a short while, the right to vote on issues that are important to us and in that way we can make our voices heard. But believers, born again believers holding within them the Spirit of the living God, should not be involved in political activism that doesn't regularly and always speak the clear gospel and invite all that are in attendance to find out about Jesus. God doesn't ask us and Paul doesn't example for us a group of people called to arms to settle political and cultural issues. Sin is sin and the world at large is and will always be openly practicing it. Our job is to tell people about Jesus.

But as I said, I don't find a lot of evidence that Mr. Kirk's organization, beyond maybe some of its membership, knew or spoke of Jesus much. Of course, give it 6 months and it will be old stuff and TPUSA will continue to run political rallies and speeches for the next few years. Then some other political machine will swallow it up.
 
Well, so far the person who shot Charlie Kirk is not being cooperative, so as for motive its mostly speculation. I have heard and read the games that he was a leftist to being part of the Groyper Fuentes fanbase. Until the court case we probably won't get much more information.
 
Yes, we can put the shooting of Charlie right up there with the civil war and the 9/11 attack and the great Oklahoma massacre. Let's not let the media forget any of those either. Of course the media will move on. Just like they've moved on from all of the earlier nation shattering events. They don't still run the headline "The South lost and signs surrender at Appomattox". Personally, I'd rather we keep the legacy of Billy Graham alive over the legacy of Charlie Kirk, if a good christian witness is what we want to honor.
 
graham taught creation order ,that is what charlie did say as well .no kids no one to be saved .

there's more to the gospel then just repemt.its also what is God's design .

should I have kids ,how many wife's ?
is slavery a sin ?

Yes, we can put the shooting of Charlie right up there with the civil war and the 9/11 attack and the great Oklahoma massacre. Let's not let the media forget any of those either. Of course the media will move on. Just like they've moved on from all of the earlier nation shattering events. They don't still run the headline "The South lost and signs surrender at Appomattox". Personally, I'd rather we keep the legacy of Billy Graham alive over the legacy of Charlie Kirk, if a good christian witness is what we want to honor.
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Personally, and until his murder I didn't even know his name, but from the research I've done, while Mr. Kirk may have been a born again believer, I don't find a lot on his home page of his website concerning Jesus.

So, I sit in wonder at what seems a strangely held association that people want to have with a political activist in the name of Jesus? I mean, I'm sorry the man was shot. I'm sorry that anyone in this nation or the world has their life taken away from them by the hate and anger and distrust of someone else.

But my question is 'why' is Charlie Kirk so precious to believers. He wasn't a Billy Graham. His message was arguing issues regarding some of the sins of the world, but he rarely explained the cure. Most of the powerful christian leaders who have lived a life of faith in God always talk about Jesus. That's their job.

I see christians rising up as they are about a christian who seemed to be living a life of preaching political activism against a few issues that they considered particularly grievous, although I haven't found the one where he condems the divorced people as hard as he does the sexually immoral.

Finally, is this some ideal that people have come to believe that they in their power are going to overcome people living in sin in this life? The Scriptures give no indication that such an outcome is coming. How about, unless we're a preacher with the gift of proclaiming the gospel as Billy Graham did, we all get down off of our platforms and put down our megaphones and our placards and just sit down with as many people in our circle that we can and tell them about Jesus?

The world is going to go the way that the world has been prophesied to go. Yes, here in the United States we have, for at least a short while, the right to vote on issues that are important to us and in that way we can make our voices heard. But believers, born again believers holding within them the Spirit of the living God, should not be involved in political activism that doesn't regularly and always speak the clear gospel and invite all that are in attendance to find out about Jesus. God doesn't ask us and Paul doesn't example for us a group of people called to arms to settle political and cultural issues. Sin is sin and the world at large is and will always be openly practicing it. Our job is to tell people about Jesus.

But as I said, I don't find a lot of evidence that Mr. Kirk's organization, beyond maybe some of its membership, knew or spoke of Jesus much. Of course, give it 6 months and it will be old stuff and TPUSA will continue to run political rallies and speeches for the next few years. Then some other political machine will swallow it up.
I didn’t know much about him before the shooting, and what happened was awful. I think he did have the gift of communicating to young people , but it is the political side that doesn’t gel with me either. We have a young lad over here in the U.K. called ‘ Young Bob ‘ he is endeavouring to start Turning point here, he is a you- tuber and an activist. He is always getting arrested for stirring things up. That was one thing Charlie didn’t do - he was respectful when talking to people( obviously there was a lot going around when the shooting took place)
I didn’t like the way his memorial service equally became a policy platform.
It may just be that I don’t think church and state work together well.
 
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