Greetings Everyone,
As a new member, I hope to expand my understanding of your views in light of your theology. What I am looking for is an open, kind, friendly, factual, exchange of ideas concerning what you see and WHY? It is not good enough to say this is what I believe but why, X means Y because of Z. I am a Baptist and I don't know what everyone here believes, but in the category of "Baptist" there is a wide view of God's word. Baptist is a large and varied group of believers. As to my personal view I am not a Calvinist or Arminian but I identify more with Jacob Arminius and hardly at all with John Calvin. I prefer to see myself as a Christian. I do believe in once saved always saved and it is not an issue with me when others do not see it as I do on this point of doctrine. I am a dispensationalist too. I understand fully the Amillennial view having held that in the past. Now that you know me a little I hope that our conversation is respectful and fruitful. What I have to say is not to convert you or change your mind but to exchange ideas and views. I would like for you, whoever you are, to intellectually defend your view, not knock my view. You can count on my doing this regardless, having full respect and admiration for any brother or sister in Christ regardless of our likes or differences.
I see the order of salvation as follows
1. God seeks to save the lost that are dead in sins and trespasses
2. God takes the dead sinner and with pre-saving grace opens the eyes thus restoring the heart to a position where he then must reject or accept God's grace.
3. New birth never precedes faith. In other words faith is always first and regeneration is always second (Luke 7:50 and Titus 3:5).
4. Justification, positional sanctification, and being sealed in Christ all take place at the same moment of conversion/salvation/anothen/regeneration.
My God Richly Bless Everyone
Anothen/Born From Above
As a new member, I hope to expand my understanding of your views in light of your theology. What I am looking for is an open, kind, friendly, factual, exchange of ideas concerning what you see and WHY? It is not good enough to say this is what I believe but why, X means Y because of Z. I am a Baptist and I don't know what everyone here believes, but in the category of "Baptist" there is a wide view of God's word. Baptist is a large and varied group of believers. As to my personal view I am not a Calvinist or Arminian but I identify more with Jacob Arminius and hardly at all with John Calvin. I prefer to see myself as a Christian. I do believe in once saved always saved and it is not an issue with me when others do not see it as I do on this point of doctrine. I am a dispensationalist too. I understand fully the Amillennial view having held that in the past. Now that you know me a little I hope that our conversation is respectful and fruitful. What I have to say is not to convert you or change your mind but to exchange ideas and views. I would like for you, whoever you are, to intellectually defend your view, not knock my view. You can count on my doing this regardless, having full respect and admiration for any brother or sister in Christ regardless of our likes or differences.
I see the order of salvation as follows
1. God seeks to save the lost that are dead in sins and trespasses
2. God takes the dead sinner and with pre-saving grace opens the eyes thus restoring the heart to a position where he then must reject or accept God's grace.
3. New birth never precedes faith. In other words faith is always first and regeneration is always second (Luke 7:50 and Titus 3:5).
4. Justification, positional sanctification, and being sealed in Christ all take place at the same moment of conversion/salvation/anothen/regeneration.
My God Richly Bless Everyone
Anothen/Born From Above