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How are they 'not scripture'? Were they added at a later date? Even if so, how does that qualify from being scripture?
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Our salvation is in Mary
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onlysaved
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Lol.. that's funny.
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Give me the verse where it says that Mary had sexual relations. There are many instances of sexual relations being documented in the Bible. Prove it with Mary.
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Jesus having brothers and sisters proves it unless you have evidence to the contrary. The Gospel of Matthew clearly states He had brothers and sisters.
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It doesn't prove it. I'm not asking about Jesus having 'brothers' and 'sisters'. I'm asking you for evidence Mary had sexual relations. Either provide a verse or admit there isn't one. I would like to remind you we are Christians and our being honest brings us closer to God.
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Fine you win.. Joseph did what the Holy Spirit did and fertilized Mary's eggs without having sex with her.
Oh wait, there's no verse that says that either.
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Correct.
onlysaved
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So Joseph is God?
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Nope
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Exactly so he could not have had children with Mary unless he had sex with her and we know that they had children (Jesus's brothers and sisters)
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Where does it say they had children other than Jesus?
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I've posted it for you two times already. Having brothers and sisters by definition means your parents had other children. Jesus had brothers and sisters.
Matthew 13. 55
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Nope
onlysaved
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Ok so by definition you do not believe the Bible. The Bible states emphatically that Jesus had brothers and sisters.
Joseph was not God and could not have impregnated Mary without sex.
Either the Bible lies and Jesus didn't have brothers and sisters..
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Joseph and Mary has sex
The only two options.
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Where does it say Mary had sex or gave birth to anyone other than Jesus? I keep asking you this and you can't provide a single verse.
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Matthew 1:24 When Joseph woke up, he did what the angel of the Lord had commanded him and took Mary home as his wife. 25 But he did not consummate their marriage until she gave birth to a son. And he gave him the name Jesus.
Note verse 25, Joseph did not have sex ( consulate) untill Mary had given birth.
The plane meaning of verse 25 is that following the birth of Jesus, Joseph and Mary had sex a d had other children.
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Nope. Doesn't say that
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If you mean in the context that Christ our Saviour was in the womb of Mary so our Salvation was in Mary womb and through her child bearing I agree as our Salvation "was" in Mary not "in" Mary as after Christ was born as Christ alone and through his work is our Salvation. When Mary was pregnant with the Lord I could say my salvation is in Mary.
Mary was chosen by God and was blessed and lived righteous and she consented and put her faith and trust in God and gave birth to a child.
Even as Mary herself said it in the scripture.
“My soul glorifies the Lord and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior for he has been mindful of the humble state of his servant. From now on all generations will call me blessed,"
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I tend to look at as all our saved mums are alive under Gods alters right now,
It's quoted in revalation 6:9-11
So because there alive in spirit as in awake, when we pray we can be joined in spirit with our mum or mums.
So when we pray we can pray to God to deliver us to be under his alter, to all our mum's, and there may be millions of mums there, including your earthly mum, and the mum of Jesus, Mary.
Where we can all pray to God to be Joined in spirit, and be comforted at most.
Ill generally look at a photo when my mum was a child, free and innocent from all the worlds sins, as it's then you can truly to see the inner beauty of a spirit that's beautiful, free from trouble. All tho i still have photos of when she was happy as a mum to,
I'm sure Mary is there too
But you could also say your salvation was also in your earthly mum to, as you a came through your mum, in life to, because of your mum was saved when she delivered you, it may be that you where living inside of salvation to. Tho your real salvation is in Christ alone, which is by grace alone and faith alone
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While He was still talking to the multitudes, behold, His mother and brothers stood outside, seeking to speak with Him. Matthew 12:46
Do you believe Jesus’ brothers were produced miraculously like His birth or do you believe Joseph and Mary produced these offspring they way of all mankind?
