Psalm 110:5 – Jesus Christ is YHWH

[SolaScriptura]

Basing John 5:37, it would be the Jesus.

so the context of this verse is clear, that Jesus Christ, as The Speaker, is Himself YHWH, as is the Father, Who is called, “Adonay Yahweh”, distinct from Jesus and the Holy Spirit.

The passage has the Speaker, Jesus Christ, say of Himself;

In verse 3, “I have declared the former things from the beginning”, and verse 5, “I have even from the beginning declared it to you”. In verse 12 and 13 the Speaker says, “Listen to Me, O Jacob and Israel, My called; I am He, I am the First, I also am the Last. My hand has also laid the foundation of the earth, and My right hand spread out the heavens”. In verse 15 we read, “I, even I have spoken, yes, and I have called him”. In the very next verse, we read, “Thus says YHWH, your Redeemer, The Holy One of Israel: “I am YHWH your God, Who teaches you to profit, Who leads you by the way you should go”.

None of which can refer to anyone other than Almighty God, Who here is Jesus Christ.

There are THREE distinct Persons in this passage. Jesus the Speaker, “Adonay Yahweh”, the Father, and "His Spirit”, distinct from the Father and Jesus Christ. A clear reference in the Old Testament to the Holy Trinity.

 

[Capbook]

Here is the Hebrew word for Joshua.

It is the Hebrew counterpart for Jesus.

For if Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward have spoken of another day. Hebrews 4:8 NKJV

For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. Hebrews 4:8 KJV

Yes, in Hebrew of Joshua or Jesus is "Yehoshua."(Heb 4:8)
But in the New Testament as written in Koine Greek, we'll find "Ἰησοῦς Iēsous" for both of them.

(TS2009) Heb 4:8 For if Yehoshua had given them rest, He would not have spoken of another day after that.

G2424
Ἰησοῦς Iēsous
917x: a Savior, Jesus, Mat_1:21; Mat_1:25; Mat_2:1, et al. freq.; Joshua, Act_7:45; Heb_4:8; Jesus, a Jewish Christian, Col_4:11.

H3091
יהושׁע / יהושׁוּע yehôshûa‛
BDB Definition:
Joshua or Jehoshua = “Jehovah is salvation”
1) son of Nun of the tribe of Ephraim and successor to Moses as the leader of the children of Israel; led the conquest of Canaan

Both Jesus and Joshua mean the same thing; the Lord is salvation.

Hebrew Strongs 3091 -

Yᵉhôwshûwaʻ

Here are the letters in between the consonants of YHWH.

YᵉHôWsHûwaʻ

I follow Strong"s Concordance Numbers and other link numbers to the "Tetragrammaton," I find Him as - the existing One, exist and etc.

H3068
Yehovah (yeh-ho-vaw'); from H1961; (the) self-Existent or Eternal; Jehovah, Jewish national name of God:
KJV - Jehovah, the Lord. Compare H3050, H3069.
(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003, 2006 Biblesoft, Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.)

H3068
יהוה yehôvâh
BDB Definition:
Jehovah = “the existing One”
1) the proper name of the one true God

H1961
היה hâyâh
BDB Definition:
1) to be, become, come to pass, exist, happen, fall out
1a) (Qal)
1a1) -----
1a1a) to happen, fall out, occur, take place, come about, come to pass
a primitive root [compare H1933]; to exist, i.e. be or become, come to pass (always emphatic, and not a mere copula or auxiliary):
(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003, 2006 Biblesoft, Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.)

H3050
יהּ yâhh
BDB Definition:
1) Jah (Jehovah in the shortened form)
1a) the proper name of the one true God

H3069
(Brown-Driver-Briggs)
Yehovih (yeh-ho-vee')
יהוהyehôvih
Definition:1) Jehovah - used primarily in the combination ‘Lord Jehovah’
(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003, 2006 Biblesoft, Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.

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And about the "etymology" of the Tetragrammaton, from H3467, as you posted means - to save, be saved, be delivered and etc.

Exo 2:17 Then the shepherdsH7462a cameH935 and droveH1644 them awayH1644, but R1MosesH4872 roseH6965 upH6965 and savedH3467 them and gaveH8248 water to their flockH6629 to drinkH8248.

Exo 2:17 ויבאוH935 הרעיםH7462 ויגרשׁוםH1644 ויקםH6965 משׁהH4872 ויושׁעןH3467 וישׁקH8248 אתH853 צאנם׃H6629

H3467
ישׁע yâsha‛
BDB Definition:
1) to save, be saved, be delivered
1a) (Niphal)
1a1) to be liberated, be saved, be delivered
1a2) to be saved (in battle), be victorious
1b) (Hiphil)
1b1) to save, deliver
1b2) to save from moral troubles
1b3) to give victory to

 

[Capbook]

so the context of this verse is clear, that Jesus Christ, as The Speaker, is Himself YHWH, as is the Father, Who is called, “Adonay Yahweh”, distinct from Jesus and the
The passage has the Speaker, Jesus Christ, say of Himself;

In verse 3, “I have declared the former things from the beginning”, and verse 5, “I have even from the beginning declared it to you”. In verse 12 and 13 the Speaker says, “Listen to Me, O Jacob and Israel, My called; I am He, I am the First, I also am the Last. My hand has also laid the foundation of the earth, and My right hand spread out the heavens”. In verse 15 we read, “I, even I have spoken, yes, and I have called him”. In the very next verse, we read, “Thus says YHWH, your Redeemer, The Holy One of Israel: “I am YHWH your God, Who teaches you to profit, Who leads you by the way you should go”.

None of which can refer to anyone other than Almighty God, Who here is Jesus Christ.

There are THREE distinct Persons in this passage. Jesus the Speaker, “Adonay Yahweh”, the Father, and "His Spirit”, distinct from the Father and Jesus Christ. A clear reference in the Old Testament to the Holy Trinity.
Holy Spirit.

As to John 5:37, Jesus said neither heard the voice of the Father anytime, I understand it as except when the Father testified for Jesus. I believe Jesus was called or named as " יהוה" in the Old Testament.

But when the Father testified or bore witness for Jesus like chapter 1 of Hebrews, Jesus baptism, the transfiguration and etc. I believe it's the Father's utterances.

As I believe the three have the power to interdwell.

Joh 5:37 "And the Father who sent Me, He has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time nor seen His form.
1Sa 3:21 And the LORD appeared again at Shiloh, because the LORD revealed Himself to Samuel at Shiloh by the word of the LORD.

 

[JLB]

H3068
Yehovah (yeh-ho-vaw'); from H1961; (the) self-Existent or Eternal; Jehovah, Jewish national name of God:
KJV - Jehovah, the Lord. Compare H3050, H3069.
(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003, 2006 Biblesoft, Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.)

Please remember this is commentary not scripture.

 

[TrevorL]

Greetings JLB and Capbook,

Please remember this is commentary not scripture.

I am not sure why you would object to quoting the explanation of the Hebrew Name of God H3068 by Strong's Concordance. I consider that it is important and interesting to understand God's Name. Strong's Concordance is one step towards understanding this subject.

H3069
(Brown-Driver-Briggs)
Yehovih (yeh-ho-vee')
יהוהyehôvih
Definition:1) Jehovah - used primarily in the combination ‘Lord Jehovah’

You quoted from Strong's explanation of H3068, but from BDB for H3069. I consider Strong's explanation of H3069 is more helpful, though a bit obscure as to the meaning and understanding of the whole subject.
H3069 (Strongs)
A variation of Yhovah (used after 'Adonay, and pronounced by Jews as 'elohiym, in order to prevent the repetition of the same sound, since they elsewhere pronounce Yhovah as 'Adonay) -- God.

Kind regards
Trevor

 

[Capbook]

Please remember this is commentary not scripture.

Strong is a credentialed lexicographer, assigned numbers to Bible original words and give meanings to what that Bible word means at the time it was used. Not consulting them, we will be interpreting the sacred passage by our own not from what it really mean.

James Strong (1822–1894), the creator of the widely used biblical reference work Strong's Concordance, was a credentialed lexicographer. https://www.google.com/search?q=is+...uAe1DsIHBTAuNC44yAcmgAgA&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

 

[SolaScriptura]

Strong is a credentialed lexicographer, assigned numbers to Bible original words and give meanings to what that Bible word means at the time it was used. Not consulting them, we will be interpreting the sacred passage by our own not from what it really mean.

James Strong (1822–1894), the creator of the widely used biblical reference work Strong's Concordance, was a credentialed lexicographer. https://www.google.com/search?q=is+strong+a+credentialed+lexicographer&client=firefox-b-e&hs=kr4o&sca_esv=320ca73251b4d27b&sxsrf=AE3TifNI7yANr1tXS-7YgX5OBXE764FcCg:1767171381687&ei=NeVUaejhKaqSvr0PmKaIiQg&ved=0ahUKEwio0NmzuueRAxUqia8BHRgTIoEQ4dUDCBM&uact=5&oq=is+strong+a+credentialed+lexicographer&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiJmlzIHN0cm9uZyBhIGNyZWRlbnRpYWxlZCBsZXhpY29ncmFwaGVyMggQIRigARjDBEixK1CzEVjqKHABeACQAQCYAdQBoAGlD6oBBjAuMTEuMbgBA8gBAPgBAZgCDKACvw7CAg4QABiABBiwAxiGAxiKBcICCxAAGIAEGLADGKIEwgIIEAAYsAMY7wXCAggQABiiBBiJBcICBRAAGO8FwgIIEAAYgAQYogSYAwCIBgGQBgaSBwYxLjEwLjGgB7IzsgcGMC4xMC4xuAe1DsIHBTAuNC44yAcmgAgA&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

James Strong is not an authority on either Hebrew or Greek word definitions, like Brown, Driver and Briggs, and J H Thayer are. Strongs follows the language and word meaning of the KJV too closely, and is too vague to get a correct understanding of what words actually mean. I would never use Strongs for a definition

 

[TrevorL]

Greetings SolaScriptura,

James Strong is not an authority on either Hebrew or Greek word definitions, like Brown, Driver and Briggs, and J H Thayer are. Strongs follows the language and word meaning of the KJV too closely, and is too vague to get a correct understanding of what words actually mean. I would never use Strongs for a definition

I consider Strong's as a good starting point, including the allocation of a number such as H3068 and H3069 for the two variants of YHWH. Many reference books also link with these numbers that are allocated by Strong's. I use Logos8 Bible Software and have a copy of an Enhanced Strong's and this links a few other reference books which give a much more thorough exposition of the meaning of a particular word. There are other books which the Logos8 Program also links and these are accessible from the tabs in the program, such as Vines and BDB. So yes, I agree that Strong's is not a thorough authority, but it is a good starting point.

Kind regards
Trevor

 

[Capbook]

James Strong is not an authority on either Hebrew or Greek word definitions, like Brown, Driver and Briggs, and J H Thayer are. Strongs follows the language and word meaning of the KJV too closely, and is too vague to get a correct understanding of what words actually mean. I would never use Strongs for a definition

Yes, though James Strong was an accomplished American academic, biblical scholar, and professor, and is recognized as a competent and influential historical lexicographer of his era. However, modern scholars note that his work, primarily the Greek and Hebrew dictionaries has limitations. There are newer ones, like BDAG, Mounce, EDNT, Louw and Nida, and others preferred for in-depth study.

 

[JLB]

Strong is a credentialed lexicographer, assigned numbers to Bible original words and give meanings to what that Bible word means at the time it was used. Not consulting them, we will be interpreting the sacred passage by our own not from what it really mean.

James Strong (1822–1894), the creator of the widely used biblical reference work Strong's Concordance, was a credentialed lexicographer. https://www.google.com/search?q=is+strong+a+credentialed+lexicographer&client=firefox-b-e&hs=kr4o&sca_esv=320ca73251b4d27b&sxsrf=AE3TifNI7yANr1tXS-7YgX5OBXE764FcCg:1767171381687&ei=NeVUaejhKaqSvr0PmKaIiQg&ved=0ahUKEwio0NmzuueRAxUqia8BHRgTIoEQ4dUDCBM&uact=5&oq=is+strong+a+credentialed+lexicographer&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiJmlzIHN0cm9uZyBhIGNyZWRlbnRpYWxlZCBsZXhpY29ncmFwaGVyMggQIRigARjDBEixK1CzEVjqKHABeACQAQCYAdQBoAGlD6oBBjAuMTEuMbgBA8gBAPgBAZgCDKACvw7CAg4QABiABBiwAxiGAxiKBcICCxAAGIAEGLADGKIEwgIIEAAYsAMY7wXCAggQABiiBBiJBcICBRAAGO8FwgIIEAAYgAQYogSYAwCIBgGQBgaSBwYxLjEwLjGgB7IzsgcGMC4xMC4xuAe1DsIHBTAuNC44yAcmgAgA&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

The Strongs can be helpful but is not scripture.


He like many of his contemporaries were influenced by tradition in the church.

The name Jehovah was one of those traditions.


The name Jehovah was first used in 1270 by a Spanish monk.


Moses nor Jesus nor any of the Bible’s texts would have used this word.


The Hebrew YHWH is what was first written.

 

[Capbook]

The Strongs can be helpful but is not scripture.


He like many of his contemporaries were influenced by tradition in the church.

The name Jehovah was one of those traditions.


The name Jehovah was first used in 1270 by a Spanish monk.


Moses nor Jesus nor any of the Bible’s texts would have used this word.


The Hebrew YHWH is what was first written.

I believe this is what you mean being first written "יהוה."

 

[MisterE]

The book of Isaiah was written by more people over a time of 300 years, and during the Babylonian exile there was a other second Isaiah who probably wrote the last books 40 til 66..

If you compare the first half of Isaiah with the second half of Isaiah, you will find that based on grammar, syntax, and vocabulary they were written by the same person. This (book of "Isaiah" written by many authors over many years) was a position held by secular religious historians in the 1970s. It is no longer held by any Evangelical scholar since around the 1990s. Go read about 10 modern commentaries on Isaiah, and you will see what I mean.

 

[JLB]

I believe this is what you mean being first written "יהוה."

YHWH

Jesus is LORD; YHWH

 

[Capbook]

YHWH

Jesus is LORD; YHWH

Yes, I believe Jesus was named יהוה in the OT, as Jesus said "neither heard the voice of the Father anytime (John 5:37), except when the Father bore witness or testified for Jesus specially in Hebrew chapter 1, the transfiguration, Jesus' baptism and etc.

 

[JLB]

Yes, I believe Jesus was named יהוה in the OT, as Jesus said "neither heard the voice of the Father anytime (John 5:37), except when the Father bore witness or testified for Jesus specially in Hebrew chapter 1, the transfiguration, Jesus' baptism and etc.

I agree Jesus Christ is LORD, YHWH.


Here is an example of Him being referred to as YHWH in the Old Testament.


Behold, the day of the LORD is coming,
And your spoil will be divided in your midst.
For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem;
The city shall be taken,
The houses rifled,
And the women ravished.
Half of the city shall go into captivity,
But the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Then the LORD will go forth
And fight against those nations,
As He fights in the day of battle.
And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives,
Which faces Jerusalem on the east.
And the Mount of Olives shall be split in two,
From east to west,
Making a very large valley;
Half of the mountain shall move toward the north
And half of it toward the south.
Then you shall flee through My mountain valley,
For the mountain valley shall reach to Azal.
Yes, you shall flee
As you fled from the earthquake
In the days of Uzziah king of Judah.
Thus the LORD my God will come,
And all the saints with You.
Zechariah 14:1-5


Jesus is the LORD (YHWH) who comes on the Day of the LORD.

It’s the LORD’s (YHWH) feet that will stand on the mount of Olives.

It’s Jesus Christ the LORD (YHWH) that comes with the saints from heaven on the Day of the LORD (YHWH).

 

[Capbook]

I agree Jesus Christ is LORD, YHWH.


Here is an example of Him being referred to as YHWH in the Old Testament.


Behold, the day of the LORD is coming,
And your spoil will be divided in your midst.
For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem;
The city shall be taken,
The houses rifled,
And the women ravished.
Half of the city shall go into captivity,
But the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Then the LORD will go forth
And fight against those nations,
As He fights in the day of battle.
And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives,
Which faces Jerusalem on the east.
And the Mount of Olives shall be split in two,
From east to west,
Making a very large valley;
Half of the mountain shall move toward the north
And half of it toward the south.
Then you shall flee through My mountain valley,
For the mountain valley shall reach to Azal.
Yes, you shall flee
As you fled from the earthquake
In the days of Uzziah king of Judah.
Thus the LORD my God will come,
And all the saints with You.
Zechariah 14:1-5


Jesus is the LORD (YHWH) who comes on the Day of the LORD.

It’s the LORD’s (YHWH) feet that will stand on the mount of Olives.

It’s Jesus Christ the LORD (YHWH) that comes with the saints from heaven on the Day of the LORD (YHWH).

Yes, but do you also believe that the Father and Son are separate and distinct in person?