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skylar

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this is what i posted on to other sites a computer one and a chat thing tell me what u think and this is real
hey

i know that 3/4 of every one here probley wont care what i am about to say but i am a christian and this guy fasted for 40 days wich means the only thing he didnt eat anything for 40 days witch that is subpose to be inposible but god told him that he was going to be taken up in the raputre he is 91 years old so that means that it could happen any min. any day next year idk but all i do no is that when it dose happen and u r left behind that year will be 7 bad years u will beforced to were the mark 666 or u will get beat or what ever. if u take the mark no matter what u r going to hell. they can say that they will give u powers but they will go away after u r in hell

so plez just be careful

and plez dont post anything like thats bull crap ok this is important

thanks


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The rapture

How old are you, Skylar? Surely you know how to spell and write better than that. Unless you are doing this as a joke.

Anyway, your point seems to be, not one, except God, knows when Christ will catch away His Church/body, so don't set dates or assume you know when it will happen. Right?

Bick
 
Re: The rapture

Bick said:
How old are you, Skylar? Surely you know how to spell and write better than that. Unless you are doing this as a joke.

Anyway, your point seems to be, not one, except God, knows when Christ will catch away His Church/body, so don't set dates or assume you know when it will happen. Right?

Bick

Sputnik: I agree with your comment about the lack of articulation in the original post, Bick. That's why I was hesitant to be the 'one out of four' who might actually care about responding to the post.
 
Lewis W said:
Maybe that is the best he could do. And if it is, he should not be shot down for it.
Which is why I didn't question the grammer. But I will say this secret rapture/ left behind stuff is getting out of hand.
 
i am sorr about the spelling i was in a hurry.

ans i am not guess the rapture will happen wile that 91 year old man is still alive.
 
Vic said:
Lewis W said:
Maybe that is the best he could do. And if it is, he should not be shot down for it.
Which is why I didn't question the grammer.

Sputnik: And why I'm not questioning your spelling. :wink:
 
SputnikBoy said:
Vic said:
Lewis W said:
Maybe that is the best he could do. And if it is, he should not be shot down for it.
Which is why I didn't question the grammer.

Sputnik: And why I'm not questioning your spelling. :wink:

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Whilst all the indications seem to suggest that we are moving inexorably toward the end of the age (though not 'the end of the world') I personally am not convinced that the Dispensational Premillennial eschatological position is the correct one. It is my opinion that the Historical or 'Classical' Premillennial eschatological position is closer to the Truth.

For a concise explanation of Historical Premillennialism (as well as all the other main eschatological positions - all five of them) then I recommend When Jesus Returns by David Pawson, available either online from http://www.anchor-recordings.com (UK) or http://www.Goodseed.org (USA) or from your local Christian bookstore or public lending library.

Simonline.
 
Thanks for the info. I will check it out.

Question for you... where do you see I Thessalonians 4:16-17 being fulfilled? Do you see it just prior to the seventh seal, where the "great multitude" appear, or do you see it at the end of the trumpets?
 
skylar said:
what u dont belive what i said

it is true
Oh, I certainly believe about the fasting and I believe the rapture win't happen while the 91 year old man is still alive. What I don't see in the Bible is that the rapture can happen at any moment. I don't believe in a secret, pre tribulation rapture. That would take denying lot of scripture that tells of certain things that must happen before it occurs.
 
skylar said:
this is what i posted on to other sites a computer one and a chat thing tell me what u think and this is real
hey

i know that 3/4 of every one here probley wont care what i am about to say but i am a christian and this guy fasted for 40 days wich means the only thing he didnt eat anything for 40 days witch that is subpose to be inposible but god told him that he was going to be taken up in the raputre he is 91 years old so that means that it could happen any min. any day next year idk but all i do no is that when it dose happen and u r left behind that year will be 7 bad years u will beforced to were the mark 666 or u will get beat or what ever. if u take the mark no matter what u r going to hell. they can say that they will give u powers but they will go away after u r in hell

so plez just be careful

and plez dont post anything like thats bull crap ok this is important

thanks


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Skylar, it is not uncommon for a person to fast for 40 days. It will leave the weak and near death but it can be done. The body will at that point start to digest itself and produce extreme hunger. That is why in the Bible at the end of the fourty days of Jesus' fast it said He became very hungry. Ignore this hunger and you won't live much longer.

Having said that, I would be careful about setting dates or making plans. I too believe in the rapture and I have every reason to believe it will happen very soon. Now, if it does not, it will not shake my faith. God has His own time frame and I do not know what it is. If I don't go in the rapture, even though I would prefer it, I will just see God after death. Now, just because I do believe in the rapture does not mean I cannot see the merit of other beliefs about the end times. Just in case, be ready to deny the mark yourself. If for some reason there is not a rapture before the trib, you need to be prepared to die for your faith. Don't put all your eggs in one end times basket. Just live with Christ today and let Him worry about tomorrow.
 
it is true that alot of people fast for 40 days but after the 40 days he was still in good shape win u fast all u do is pry and and spend time with god
so i dont no if that is true but in the bible it says that we r not garented r next breath
 
Imminent return. WATCH, and be ready!

Imminent return. WATCH, and be ready!

Prepared for those who love Him
1 Cor2:9; Jam 1:12; Jam 2:5.

Make yourself ready
Rev 19:7; Mat 24:44; Mark 13:40.

Blessed are those
Mat 24:46; Rev 1:3; 19:9; 22:7.

Morning Star rises in your heart
2 Pet 1: 19.

Hold fast what you have
Rev 3:11.

Looking for Him
Mat 24:50; Luke 12:46; Tit 2:13.

Know his master will
Luke 12:47; Mat 7:21; Rom 12:2.

Look for His appearing
Tit 2:13.

Be found in peace
2 Pet 3:14.

Keep in the love of God
Jude 1:21.

Patient--waiting
Jam 5:7-8.

Establish your hearts
Jam 5:8.

Not ashamed before Him at His coming
1 John 2:28.

Do not leave your first love
Rev 2:4.

Be ready and watch
Mat 24:42-43; 25:13; Mark 13:35,37,39 Rev 3:3;

Rev 16:15.

Kept the command to endure
Rev 3:10.

Chosen and faithful
Rev 17:14.

Loved His appearing
2tim 4:8; James 1:2.

Eagerly wait for Him
Heb 9:28.

Worthy
Luke 21:36; 2 Th 1:11.

Seek those things which are above
Col 3:1.

Set your mind on things above
Col 3:2.

Willing to come
Mat 22:2-3.

Hear His voice
John 5:25; John 10:3,4,16,27,28; Rom 8:30; iTh

4:16; Rev 3:20,21; Rev 4:1

Let him who is listening say come
Rev 22:17.

Let him who is thirsting say come
Rev 22:17.

Seek Him
2 Chr 15:2,13.

Loyal to Christ
2 Chr 16:9.

Take heed that no one deceives you
Mark 13:5; Luke 21:8

Learn this parable from the fig tree
Mark 13:28; Luke 21:29-3 1.

Take heed watch and pray
Mark 13:33; Luke 21:36.

Strive to enter through the narrow gate
Mark 13:24.

Not weighed down with cares of this life
Luke 21:34.

Watches and keeps his garments
Rev 16:15.

Those who do his Commandments
Rev 22:14.

When you see all these things know
Mat 24:33.

Warning the rapture is near
Mat 24:44-46; 1 Tim 4:16.

Who were ready
Mat 25:10.

See things happening know that it is near
Mark 13:29.

Be awake & aware what is happening
Mark 13:36.

Watch for the signs
Luke 21:11, 24-25.

Things begin to happen...look up!
Luke 21:28.

The Spirit and the bride say come!

http://momentin.com/revstudy/chap03rapture.html
http://momentin.com/revstudy/revrap.htm
 
Nowhere does the Bible suggest a Pre tribulation view unless you are reading into scripture more than what it says, i.e. conjecture and spectualtion. None of the verses you quoted directly support the Return is imminent. True, on one is to know the day and hour, but Jesus and Paul still tell us some things MUST occur first.

Did this:

2 Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

and this occur yet?

Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Tell me something... why is Jesus concerned about shortening the days of this tribulation for the elect's sake if they are caught up already?

Mat 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
 
"Tell me something... why is Jesus concerned about shortening the days
of this tribulation for the elect's sake if they are caught up already?"

Not all are caught up already. Only the ones he wants to preserve
from the trial of fire.

Tell me something... in case you are a parent. If you have a perfect son
that's according to your heart, why do you want him to try with fire?

He is already perfect, his love for you is perfect and cannot be shaken.
You know his heart through and through. You build him up over the years
with your love, and kept in your love all the way until the day, when the
time comes to try the ones that walk according to THEIR understanding.

Jesus will shorten the days for tribulation saints because he knows
their strenght. He will counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire.
Many will now draw near to him and stop standing on their own
merits or understanding. This option will be removed for them.

As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent."

" for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that
man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition"

Yes the falling away has already occured, and the son of perdition will be
revealed shortly. He will offer the world a "order out of chaos" solution.

The chaos will come without delay, now that Gaza is not in Israel's hand
anymore. You need to understand the signs of the times. Humanistic peace,
not only without God, but directly opposed to God's will is the guaranteed
path to wrath without further delay.

Since many fellow Christians are not aware of the details, or do not comprehend
the significance of opposing God's will I must include the detailed "roadmap
to hell" insight as stated below. You must be humble enough to forget your
own partial view, and try to understand God's full view and plan for us.

I need to repent from my own understanding, nothing I have now except his faith.
We must forsake everything that is not of him, however highly we think of it.
We all need to repent. Now is the time to repent and ask for His daily guidance.

He who gets wisdom loves his own soul; he who cherishes understanding prospers.
 
Dear Friends

March and April 1997, saw the great Terrorist leader of the PLO,
Yasser Arafat, go on tour in America. During that Arafat tour of
America, Clinton rebuked Israel for not giving away her land for
peace. In this SAME time period America saw some of the worst
tornadoes and flooding in US history. The same day that Arafat
landed in America tornadoes devastated huge sections of the nation,
ripping across Texas, Arkansas, Mississippi, Kentucky and Tennessee.
That time frame saw over 300 serious tornadoes rip America.

January 21, 1998, was the meeting of Netanyahu with President
Clinton at the White House. Netanyahu was given a cold reception by
Clinton and Secretary of State Albright, who even refuse to have
lunch with him. Yes, that is the very day upon which the Monica
Lewinsky scandal breaks into the mass media.

September 28, 1998, is when Clinton's Secretary of State completed
the details of an agreement in which Israel will give up 13 percent
of Gaza, Judea and Samaria. The same day Hurricane George hit the
Gulf Coast with 110 mph winds and gusts up to 175. Yes, it was the
very same time that Clinton met with Ararat and Netanyahu at the
White House to finalize the land for peace deal, now known as the
Road Map from Hell. That is the same time when Arafat addressed the
United Nations about declaring an independent Palestinian state by
May 1999. It is interesting to note that at the exact time that
Arafat was leaving the US, is when Hurricane George began to
dissipate after causing 1 billion in damage.

October 15-22, 1998 is when Yasser Arafat and Benjamin Netanyahu met
at the Wye River Plantation in Maryland. The talks are scheduled to
last five days with the focus being Israel agreeing to give up 13
percent of Yesha. The talks are extended and conclude on October 23.
On October 17 on through the 22nd unprecedented rains and tornadoes
hit southern Texas. The rain and flooding in Texas effected over 25%
of that huge state and again caused over a billion dollars in
damage. One of our good personal friends was drowned in those
floods.

May 3, 1999 was the day that Yasser Arafat was scheduled to declare
a Palestinian state with Jerusalem as the capital. Arafat at the
request of President Clinton postponed the declaration. Clinton's
letter praised the PLO terrorist leader, and father of airline
hijacking, for his "aspirations for his own land", and also wrote
that the Palestinians have a right to "determine their own future on
their own land," and that they deserve to "live free, today,
tomorrow and forever." That very same day the most powerful tornado
storm system ever to hit the United States began moving across
Oklahoma and Kansas. The winds were clocked at 316 mph the highest
tornado wind velocities ever recorded.

June 5-11, 2001, President George W. Bush sent CIA director George
Tenet to Israel to try to broker a cease-fire between the Israelis
and the Palestinians. The antichrist Road Map from Hell insists that
Israel stop building in the Mountains of Israel. At exactly the same
time on June 8-9, one of the greatest rainfalls in the history of
the United States occurs in Texas. In a 24 hour period, over 28
inches of rain falls in the Houston area. The nightly news reported
the flooding and the meetings in Israel together! Three feet of rain
fell on the area between June 5 and 11. The 5 billion dollars worth
of destruction in Houston was catastrophic. Houston was just one of
the 28 counties being declared a federal disaster area from that
flooding.

Now we come to the whirlwind of Katrina. We should be able to hear
the pleadings of God. We should know that the FORCING of the
Forsaking of Gaza got an answer from God. No one can deny that God
allowed this whirlwind. And the PLEADINGS of God better be heard.
NO, I WILL NOT STOP CALLING BUSH TO HALT THE ROAD MAP FROM HELL.
Every day that Bush does NOT cross that line which God has drawn
with the Forsaking of Gaza, is another day in which we may proclaim
that God IS Love, that Jesus Christ IS Come in the flesh, that some
sinner may find His grace in repentance, that some Muslim may
receive the Gospel of Love and be set free from Lucifer's moon god
religion of hate vengeance and killing.

Yes, Bush is God's anointed according to Romans 1:18, and we should
pray for him. We MUST respect his God ordained position. Anyone can
say they are a Christian and be a freemason. But you can NOT BE a
Christian and be a freemason. You can NOT be a Christian and be a
Skull & Bonesman. You can NOT be a Christian and say you believe the
moon god of Islam is the same as the God of the Jews and Christians.
You can NOT be a Christian and FORCE the Forsaking of Gaza. You can
NOT be a Christian and just let those poor people die. We should
pray that President Bush understand the meaning that in just seven
days from conclusion of his FORCING the forsaking of Gaza, brought
the whirlwind of Katrina. God has long drawn a line 2600 years ago,
regarding this antichrist Road Map from Hell by the Bush-Clinton-
Bush syndicate of Sudden Destruction.

I pray for me, and you, and every saint to hear the PLEADING of God.
And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but NOW COMMANDETH
ALL MEN EVERY WHERE TO REPENT: Because he hath appointed a day, in
the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom
he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in
that he hath raised him from the dead.

Bush can hasten or delay THAT DAY with how fast he FORCES the next
step of the Road Map from Hell. God's people must NOW have ears to
hear this truth. Katrina is an expression of the PLEADING of God to
His people, and part of the judgment upon a nation. This Katrina
whirlwind should be recognized as the pleading from the personal God
who IS love, calling for PERSONAL REPENTANCE. Though it is a
mournful thing to say that it is too late for National Repentance in
America, that does appear to be the truth. We should pray for
personal repentance, and that Bush in particular, might be able to
find God's grace in personal repentance. There are things which have
been done in secret, which need personal repentance. God knows those
things as well as God knows all of those poor people being left to
die in New Orleans. We all better pray for the Peace in Jerusalem
and that Bush does NOT take that next step in the Road Map from
Hell. All of us would be well advised to be ready to have our
saddles shipped home if he does.

However, with the lust for oil to fuel comfort machines, and fuel
industry, and to fuel the war machinery, it is not likely that
either Bush, or the vast majority of those calling themselves
Christians, will have ears to hear. We are so deeply steeped in our
feigned affection and religious do gooding. The lust for the
benefits of oil, will most likely accelerate the sacrificing of
Israel to the Muslim moon god of the Arabs holding the oil so
desired by the nations who have all become MAD on this earth today.
The next step of the Road Map from Hell will cause the FURY of God
Almighty to come up in His face, and for the Lord Jesus Christ to DO
His STRANGE and quick work in which He will tread the winepress of
the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. ONLY He who now lets will
let UNTIL.....

Yes or no? Does homeland security include levee construction and
maintenance? Levee construction and maintenance funding was stopped
by the administration of Sudden Destruction in order to fund the war
on terror. Homeland security should be more than protecting the
government from the fear of the governed. All human beings, no
matter how poor, should be searched for and rescued. It is not the
economy stupid, it is the people who are being left to die. Someone
just said - the New Orleans Saints are fine - they will be playing
in San Antonio this season. Yes, that is how sad and sick the
commentary really is, on this whirlwind of Katrina. God is making
what may be the final call to find His grace in PERSONAL REPENTANCE.
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the
churches.

Zec 2:8 For thus saith the LORD of hosts; After the glory hath he
sent me unto the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you
toucheth the apple of his eye.

Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone
for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in
pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together
against it.

Only be very strong and of good courage. Stay IN the Word.
The KING IS Coming.

>From Chittim, Isa 23:1,

Shalom & Simcha,
Jim Searcy

Great Joy in Great Tribulation web sites:
http://www.dccsa.com/greatjoy/
or
http://www.gjigt.com
 
First you need to know that the word is talking about 4 groups of people.

The raptured saved ( 5 wise virgins), The saved that were left (5 foolish virgins), The jews, And the unsaved world.

Putting the right group of people with the statement helps a lot.

Or understanding the coming of Christ is deferent from the rapture and putting the right scripture with it.

The best way to know is to get to know God well enough that he talks to you, Then ask Him.

The rapture is not going to be a secret from them that know God.

It will be announced Matt. 25:6 at midnight there was a cry made. the bridegroom cometh.

This will be done maybe a week, maybe a day, or maybe 1 hr before. But it will be done.
 
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