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Revelation Chapter 1

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Revelation 1:1-3



God gave these revelations to Jesus first and then he passed it onto John through a ministering angel through visions as God reveals those...


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I wrote this as a study as I went chapter by chapter in how I understand what each one teaches us. I do not expect everyone to agree with my understanding, but to study all the scriptures and history I have given and come up with their own conclusions.
 

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I wrote this as a study as I went chapter by chapter in how I understand what each one teaches us. I do not expect everyone to agree with my understanding, but to study all the scriptures and history I have given and come up with their own conclusions.
I know what you mean. A lot of times in studies of Revelation it's like this is what makes sense to me, and this is what makes sense to you, which one is true? Let's wait and see.
 

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There are a lot of bandwagon false teachings out there on end times and if what they teach does not line up with scripture then never believe what they try to teach. Revelation is my greatest passion and have been studying it for 40 years now and always learn something new as the Holy Spirit is the only one that can reveal truth.
 

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There are a lot of bandwagon false teachings out there on end times and if what they teach does not line up with scripture then never believe what they try to teach. Revelation is my greatest passion and have been studying it for 40 years now and always learn something new as the Holy Spirit is the only one that can reveal truth.
There are a lot of bandwagon false teachings out there on end times and if what they teach does not line up with scripture then never believe what they try to teach. Revelation is my greatest passion and have been studying it for 40 years now and always learn something new as the Holy Spirit is the only one that can reveal truth.
 

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I know what you mean. A lot of times in studies of Revelation it's like this is what makes sense to me, and this is what makes sense to you, which one is true? Let's wait and see.
Have you ever consider that all that God has created operates under "His Natural Laws" Is He not the creator of Apocalyptic Prophecy (Dan., Rev.) their true meaning is only possible by understanding these hermeneutic and applying them correctly of course. The beauty of applying proven hermeneutics is that personal bias is eliminated.
If everyone understood them like we do the laws that govern math and other sciences we all would be on the same pg. regardless of race, culture, and religion. Make sense?
 

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Have you ever consider that all that God has created operates under "His Natural Laws" Is He not the creator of Apocalyptic Prophecy (Dan., Rev.) their true meaning is only possible by understanding these hermeneutic and applying them correctly of course. The beauty of applying proven hermeneutics is that personal bias is eliminated.
If everyone understood them like we do the laws that govern math and other sciences we all would be on the same pg. regardless of race, culture, and religion. Make sense?
Not only Gods natural laws, but also His Spiritual laws that are set in motion and His timing when all the prophecies will be fulfilled. History always repeats itself as we see within the four Empires beginning with Babylon up to the timing when the Roman Empire's deadly wound was healed and leads up to a New World Order. There is no place for personal bias, but only that which has already been written by the Prophets of old in what they foretold about the latter days that even now we are living in them.
 

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There is no place for personal bias,
Glory, appreciate your response, and understand you believe that God uses "His Natural Laws" to govern is creation. Not sure you agree that would include His prophecies found in Dan., and Rev., as I do. I believe if more christians understood what they were, and applied them correctly personal bias would be eliminated and private interpretations (interpretations based on invalid/proven hermeneutics) could easily be discerned.

I have finally found my way into your studies on Rev., and at this time have read through Rev.6. and Jumped ahead to Rev.13. Familiar with much of the interpretation, and since the identity of many of the symbols go back centuries I'm assuming your just passing along what you have learned from previous writers. I have no problem with this.

My question to you is this, do you understand the laws of interpretation/hermeneutics early expositors used to arrive at the interpretations you share? I started reading your Rev.1 study, looking to see if you would make know to your readers the hermeneutics that form the foundation of your Rev., study. I found nothing. I know you most likely will get defensive here, but I think there is a strong possibility you my not even know yourself or understand the importance of valid hermeneutics because you have never been informed. The fact is invalid hermeneutics only produce invalid/private interpretations. I'm sure you don't want to be a part of that.

Should you understand the hermeneutics of the interpretation of Rev., study please share with me and your readers so we can verify that the interpretation is on the mark. In turn I will share what I believe are the laws of interpretation God used when He have us Dan., and Rev., prophecies.
 

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Your signature says "My major interest is studying Revelations". The capital R suggests you are referring to the Book of Revelation (singular), but you may be saying your major interest is studying revelations (plural) in the whole Bible, and in the experience of humankind. Clarity would be appreciated.
My interest is studying the book of Revelation, but it takes the full of the Bible and history to understand it.
 

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Glory, appreciate your response, and understand you believe that God uses "His Natural Laws" to govern is creation. Not sure you agree that would include His prophecies found in Dan., and Rev., as I do. I believe if more christians understood what they were, and applied them correctly personal bias would be eliminated and private interpretations (interpretations based on invalid/proven hermeneutics) could easily be discerned.

I have finally found my way into your studies on Rev., and at this time have read through Rev.6. and Jumped ahead to Rev.13. Familiar with much of the interpretation, and since the identity of many of the symbols go back centuries I'm assuming your just passing along what you have learned from previous writers. I have no problem with this.

My question to you is this, do you understand the laws of interpretation/hermeneutics early expositors used to arrive at the interpretations you share? I started reading your Rev.1 study, looking to see if you would make know to your readers the hermeneutics that form the foundation of your Rev., study. I found nothing. I know you most likely will get defensive here, but I think there is a strong possibility you my not even know yourself or understand the importance of valid hermeneutics because you have never been informed. The fact is invalid hermeneutics only produce invalid/private interpretations. I'm sure you don't want to be a part of that.

Should you understand the hermeneutics of the interpretation of Rev., study please share with me and your readers so we can verify that the interpretation is on the mark. In turn I will share what I believe are the laws of interpretation God used when He have us Dan., and Rev., prophecies.
I take no offense. The only method I use in my studies over the last 40 years are scripture as I cross reference the OT as you will notice that I use a lot of scripture from the prophecies of the OT Prophets and also studying the history of the four empires beginning with the Babylonian up to present day Roman Empire (not the Catholic Church) as only the Holy Spirit can reveal these mysteries to me. There are good websites and bad websites when it comes to end times and when using any of them one needs to Spiritually discern that which is written and if those writings do not line up with scripture then stay clear of them. I never ask anyone to agree with me, but to take the scriptures I give and study them for themselves so we can have unity in our discussions. There are no rights or wrongs, but how each of us understand that which has already been written.

As far as Chapter 13 I gained this understanding by a friend of mine that use to be a high priest in the Jesuits as he now goes around exposing them.
 
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The Book of Revelation cannot be understood apart from viewing it in its proper historical setting. The setting is given to us in the first and last chapter. John was shown those things which were to SHORTLY take place; the time was NEAR (Rev. 1:1, 3; 22:6, 10). In other words, John's vision involved those events leading up to and including the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple in A.D. 70. I challenge anyone, if just for curiosity's sake, to approach the book that way and find out whether things finally make sense!
 

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The Book of Revelation cannot be understood apart from viewing it in its proper historical setting. The setting is given to us in the first and last chapter. John was shown those things which were to SHORTLY take place; the time was NEAR (Rev. 1:1, 3; 22:6, 10). In other words, John's vision involved those events leading up to and including the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple in A.D. 70. I challenge anyone, if just for curiosity's sake, to approach the book that way and find out whether things finally make sense!
I challenge you to read the book I wrote on Revelation that you can find in the subforum in End Times forum titled Revelation as you will see it is all visions John received from the angel Jesus sent to him starting with the warnings to the seven churches in Asia up to the time of Christ return on the last day.

Revelation is compiled of all the prophecies of the OT, plus history of the four Empires that leads up to the timing of the seven trumpets, son of perdition taking his seat in Jerusalem, the seven vial judgements, Christ return on the last day and God's final judgement before the New Jerusalem can be ushered down.
 
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I challenge you to read the book I wrote on Revelation that you can find in the subforum in End Times forum titled Revelation as you will see it is all visions John received from the angel Jesus sent to him starting with the warnings to the seven churches in Asia up to the time of Christ return on the last day.

Revelation is compiled of all the prophecies of the OT, plus history of the four Empires that leads up to the timing of the seven trumpets, son of perdition taking his seat in Jerusalem, the seven vial judgements, Christ return on the last day and God's final judgement before the New Jerusalem can be ushered down.
You are still missing the CLEAR timing that John was given. He was "shown those things which were to SHORTLY take place; the time was NEAR" (Rev. 1:1,3; 22:6,10). The entire Book of Revelation deals with the events leading up to and including the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple in A.D. 70.
 

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You are still missing the CLEAR timing that John was given. He was "shown those things which were to SHORTLY take place; the time was NEAR" (Rev. 1:1,3; 22:6,10). The entire Book of Revelation deals with the events leading up to and including the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple in A.D. 70.
Jesus Foretells Destruction of the Temple
Mat 24:1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.
Mat 24:2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

The destruction of the Temple in 70AD was 26 years prior to John writing the book of Revelation as he was given these visions on the isle of Patmos while being a prisoner there in 96AD. Shortly and near is in God's timing, not man's.
 

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Have you ever consider that all that God has created operates under "His Natural Laws" Is He not the creator of Apocalyptic Prophecy (Dan., Rev.) their true meaning is only possible by understanding these hermeneutic and applying them correctly of course. The beauty of applying proven hermeneutics is that personal bias is eliminated.
If everyone understood them like we do the laws that govern math and other sciences we all would be on the same pg. regardless of race, culture, and religion. Make sense?
Did you see the only post I have posted on here? I can appreciate the epically horrid grammar causing misunderstanding, but I do believe the meaning is accurate. I personally believe when Genesis and Leviticus are telling us of weeks of years, that we should probably be paying attention. Nor should it be lost on anyone that after the seven sabbatical years in Leviticus, the trumpet was to be blown and in revelation after the seven seals, seven angels are given seven trumpets.

So I do very much have my opinion as you might say. I can back it up with scripture. However, who am I to argue with people who are more legitimate in status and expertise than I?

So I read and I listen. I might learn stuff. I like learning stuff.
 

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You are still missing the CLEAR timing that John was given. He was "shown those things which were to SHORTLY take place; the time was NEAR" (Rev. 1:1,3; 22:6,10). The entire Book of Revelation deals with the events leading up to and including the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple in A.D. 70.
Do the math. John was around 30 years old when the Roman siege destroyed Jerusalem and the Temple in 70AD. When John was around 95 he was exiled as a convict to the isle of Patmos by the Roman Emperor Titus Flavius Domitianus for preaching the word of God in Asia Minor. He wrote the book of Revelation while he was a prisoner there.

Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
Rev 1:2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.
Rev 1:3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

Rev 1:19 Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter

It was 60 some years later after the destruction of the Temple in 70AD that John was given the visions that the angel gave him while on the isle of Patmos that make up the book of Revelation.

"Shortly come to pass" and "the time is at hand" means to come quickly or swiftly in God's perfect timing according to His will, not our will as we need to be prepared for that time to come.
 
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