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Sin No More

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Litebeam

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SIN NO MORE


Those who are truly in Christ are indeed under grace and no longer under the law.

Obviously this by no means gives a license to sin. Actually it is quite the opposite.

We are called to be Holy!

Those who are TRULY IN CHRIST are in the PROCESS of TURNING AWAY FROM SIN.



1Jo 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither knoweth him.


1Jo 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

1Jo 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

1Jo 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.


Those who are truly in Christ are immediately convicted by God’s Holy Spirit if they should sin. They immediately repent and are much less likely to ever make the same mistake again.

Those who are truly in Christ agree with God that SIN IS TERRIBLE. IT SEPERATES US FROM GOD.

They know…..


WE ARE CALLED TO BE HOLY!


I am the Lord who brought you up out of Egypt to be your God; therefore be holy, because I am holy.
(Leviticus 11:45)

Speak to the entire assembly of Israel and say to them: Be holy because I, the Lord your God, am holy. (Leviticus 19:2)

Consecrate yourselves and be holy, because I am the Lord your God. Keep my decrees and follow them. I am the Lord, who makes you holy. (Leviticus 20:7-8)

But just as He who called you is holy, so be holy in all you do; for it is written: Be holy, because I am holy. (1 Peter 1:15-16)


God would not tell us to do something He wasn’t prepared to ENABLE us to do. Those who obey God and study His word in a humble Spirit, who seek His wisdom and ask His strength to flee temptation, God enables to do so.

Those who are truly in Christ are the minority.




The majority are DEAD IN THEIR SINS. They are in the process of completing their sins.



We were created to do God’s will not ours. Those who are truly in Christ soon find themselves doing God’s will. Those who are rebelling against God are doing Satan’s will, as God allows.


" ... an experience of evil hath God given to the sons of man to humble him thereby" (Ecc. 1:13).




Are you a new creature??? Are you in the process of turning away from sin? Are you listening to God?


If you still like your sins, you are in disagreement with God. All the death, suffering and separation from God in this world are the result of ONE act of disobedience in the Garden of Eden.


SIN IS TERRIBLE, IT SEPARATES US FROM GOD.


You cannot have fellowship with God if you keep returning to your sins. You cannot!

You are not listening to God if you keep returning to your sins.

So let me ask, if you are continuing to do the same old sinful things, WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE LISTENING TO???????


Satan is the “voice of reason.â€Â




John 5:30
By myself I can do nothing;


Phi 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.


God bless!
 
Litebeam said:
SIN NO MORE



Those who are TRULY IN CHRIST are in the PROCESS of TURNING AWAY FROM SIN.
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But, the real question is....what is the Bible definition of sin ?
Because how can one turn from sin, if one does not know what the Bible defines, as sin ?

The Christian world has yet, to understand what sin is !
 
wavy said:
Indeed, Jay T.

1 John 3:4 goes in one eye and out the other.
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Hey, I know what sin is and I know of the provisions that were "made" for me by the LORD.

C'mon wavy, finish the passage:

1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
1 John 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.

;-)
 
Are you equating the "law" with "he", meaning Messiah or the Father?

I don't see that AT ALL. You can't "transgress" Messiah or the Father. You can transgress AGAINST the Father, however. And that is done by disobedience to his Torah.
 
wavy said:
Are you equating the "law" with "he", meaning Messiah or the Father?

I don't see that AT ALL. You can't "transgress" Messiah or the Father. You can transgress AGAINST the Father, however. And that is done by disobedience to his Torah.
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You really ought to give up the fighting the truth of the Word of God. Have you ever been born of God? I remember when you first posted in this forum you made the statement that you did not accept Jesus Christ as being God the Father, and that the Holy Spirit was also not God. Without twisting the words in your clever way, do you believe that Jesus Christ is God the Father, God almighty; and do you believe the Holy Spirit to be God almighty, God the Father?

If not, then you are teaching another gospel than what is allowed in this forum.
 
Solo said:
You really ought to give up the fighting the truth of the Word of God.
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Based off the assumption that you have it...

Without twisting the words in your clever way, do you believe that Jesus Christ is God the Father, God almighty; and do you believe the Holy Spirit to be God almighty, God the Father?
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There is only one Father, and no, Yahshua is not him. He is the Son. And no, the Ruach is not the Father either. I don't see this in scripture.

If not, then you are teaching another gospel than what is allowed in this forum.
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Well, I never read this in any of the terms that I had to believe those exact things above. But then again, I could have forgotten. Still, I hold to this view. So be it. Suspend me. Ban me permanently if you feel that's what needs to be done. I don't believe you know what the gospel is. It's not to believe what you said above.
 
This child born is called the mighty God, the everlasting Father.


For to us a child is born, to us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:6

There was no God before Almighty God, and there will be no God after Almighty God and beside Almighty God there is no Savior. Almighty God is the creator and is King.


8 Bring forth the blind people that have eyes, and the deaf that have ears. 9 Let all the nations be gathered together, and let the people be assembled: who among them can declare this, and shew us former things? let them bring forth their witnesses, that they may be justified: or let them hear, and say, It is truth. 10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. 11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour. 12 I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, that I am God. 13 Yea, before the day was I am he; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand: I will work, and who shall let it? 14 Thus saith the LORD, your redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; For your sake I have sent to Babylon, and have brought down all their nobles, and the Chaldeans, whose cry is in the ships. 15 I am the LORD, your Holy One, the creator of Israel, your King.
Isaiah 43:8-15

Jesus the Word is called the King of Kings and Lord of Lords.

11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. Revelation 19:11-16

The Word is God and ALL things were made by HIM.

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. John 1:1-5
 
wavy said:
Solo said:
You really ought to give up the fighting the truth of the Word of God.
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Based off the assumption that you have it...

Without twisting the words in your clever way, do you believe that Jesus Christ is God the Father, God almighty; and do you believe the Holy Spirit to be God almighty, God the Father?
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There is only one Father, and no, Yahshua is not him. He is the Son. And no, the Ruach is not the Father either. I don't see this in scripture.

[quote:9f668]If not, then you are teaching another gospel than what is allowed in this forum.
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Well, I never read this in any of the terms that I had to believe those exact things above. But then again, I could have forgotten. Still, I hold to this view. So be it. Suspend me. Ban me permanently if you feel that's what needs to be done. I don't believe you know what the gospel is. It's not to believe what you said above.[/quote:9f668]


Members of this forum will not post any messages that promote a religion or belief other than mainstream Christianity. Mainstream Christianity accepts the deity of Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit; therefore any messages that do not support this view are in violation of Rule 8 of the Terms of Service. The viewpoint of the combination of the tribes of Israel as being the church of the New Testament is also not within the mainstream of Christianity and is a violation of Rule 8.

Please be governed by the Rules of the Terms of Service of this forum.
Thank you,
Solo

Rule 8 - No Promotion of Other Religions:
You will not post any messages; links, images or photos that promote a religion or belief other than mainstream Christianity (atheism is considered a "belief" for the purposes of this rule). Debates of these doctrines are fine, as long as the beliefs are not actively promoted. This is a Christian Forums as the name suggest. If you cannot abide with this, please do not use our site.

John 14: 6. Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
 
Moderator said:

Without twisting the words in your clever way, do you believe that Jesus Christ is God the Father, God almighty; and do you believe the Holy Spirit to be God almighty, God the Father?

Me:

Has this board changed? I certainly believe Jesus is God the Father. I was not aware that was the doctrinal stand of this forum.
 
Solo said:
This child born is called the mighty God, the everlasting Father.


For to us a child is born, to us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:6
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The emphasis is on "everlasting", not "father". This could also be translated "father of everlasting", as in, we as his children as Israel. But he is NOT the Father. This is the spirit of anti-christ:

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Yahshua is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

The rest of what you said is irrelevant. Nebuchednezzar is called "king of kings" by Yahweh through the mouth of Daniel.
 
Solo said:
Please be governed by the Rules of the Terms of Service of this forum.
Thank you,
Solo

Rule 8 - No Promotion of Other Religions:
You will not post any messages; links, images or photos that promote a religion or belief other than mainstream Christianity (atheism is considered a "belief" for the purposes of this rule). Debates of these doctrines are fine, as long as the beliefs are not actively promoted. This is a Christian Forums as the name suggest. If you cannot abide with this, please do not use our site.
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And so when does debating equal promoting it? Where do you draw the line? Please read:

Rule 8 - No Promotion of Other Religions
You will not post any messages; links, images or photos that promote a religion or belief other than mainstream Christianity (atheism is considered a "belief" for the purposes of this rule). Debates of these doctrines are fine, as long as the beliefs are not actively promoted. This is a Christian Forums as the name suggest. If you cannot abide with this, please do not use our site.
 
Yes, Vic, I thought that was mainstream Christian doctrine. So I do not know why Solo has accused me falsely...
 
Vic said:
From a triune point of veiw, Jesus is God the Son. He is distinct from the Father, bot no less divine and part of the Godhead. (elohiym, echad - one in unity - see Deuteronomy 6:4)

http://www.letusreason.org/Trin6.htm

http://www.restorationfoundation.org/vo ... /44_17.htm
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Did God come to redeem mankind and become incarnate?

Is not the Word of God, God the Father?

Is not Jesus the Word of God incarnate?

Does not Isaiah say that Jesus is called Immanuel (God with us), Almighty God, Everlasting Father?

Does not Revelation reveal Jesus the Word of God as the beginning and the end, the first and the last? Is that not the point of Jesus the Word being God almighty?

Is the Holy Spirit God almighty?

Who is the Savior of mankind. Isaiah says that beside God almighty there is no redeemer, nor is their another God.

Who is the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords? God Almighty, the Word, Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit.
 
wavy said:
Yes, Vic, I thought that was mainstream Christian doctrine. So I do not know why Solo has accused me falsely...
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You accused yourself by denying that Jesus is God and that the Holy Spirit is God.

Your position is false.
 
Solo said:
You accused yourself by denying that Jesus is God and that the Holy Spirit is God.

Your position is false.
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Well, when you can prove how I said this, then I'll take you seriously. This is not the first time you've accused me falsely...
 
wavy said:
Being called king of kings or savior or even "Elohim" (God) does not make you the Father.
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Then Jesus is higher than the Father because Isaiah 43 says that God almighty is King and Savior and beside him there is no God.

I am a Father and I am a Son and I am a joint heir with Jesus Christ. I am the one in the same person with multiple responsibilities.
 
Solo said:
You accused yourself by denying that Jesus is God and that the Holy Spirit is God.

Your position is false.
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This is what I need to address Solo. I'm not denying Jesus of His deity. I hope that's not what you got from my post. I'm trying to point out that Jesus doesn't refer to Himself as the Father; always the Son. Sure, He does say, "I and my Father are one" but that brings us back to echad. One in Unity. The Spirit is a part of that Unity also. Together they make up a triune, the Godhead, our Trinity.
 
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