Spirits In Prison

[TRUTH over TRADITION]

1 Peter 3:18-20 says:

For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit, in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison, because they formerly did not obey, when God's patience waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through water.

Who or what were these 'spirits in prison'? Some have said that they were departed souls but that idea stands opposed to what much of scripture seems to teach about the soul being the whole of man that dies. Others have said that this text is saying that Jesus, after being resurrected and then being gifted with life in the spirit which is the immortality and incorruptability spoken of in 1 Cor 15, went to the rebel spirit beings (angels) who were locked away in Tartarus (Jude 1:7) to proclaim the good news of the kingdom to them letting them know that through his sacrifice they could be reconsiled to the FATHER. The proponents of the 2nd view use texts like Colossians 1:20 to support the claim that Jesus' blood atoned for the sin of man and spirit beings alike.

[God] saw that it was good for him to be complete in everything, and used [Jesus] to bring everything back into a good relationship with Himself, by making peace through his blood [that was shed] on the pole, regardless of whether these things are heavenly or earthly.

 

[Nathan]

1 Peter 3:18-20 says:

For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit, in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison, because they formerly did not obey, when God's patience waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through water.

Who or what were these 'spirits in prison'? Some have said that they were departed souls but that idea stands opposed to what much of scripture seems to teach about the soul being the whole of man that dies. Others have said that this text is saying that Jesus, after being resurrected and then being gifted with life in the spirit which is the immortality and incorruptability spoken of in 1 Cor 15, went to the rebel spirit beings (angels) who were locked away in Tartarus (Jude 1:7) to proclaim the good news of the kingdom to them letting them know that through his sacrifice they could be reconsiled to the FATHER. The proponents of the 2nd view use texts like Colossians 1:20 to support the claim that Jesus' blood atoned for the sin of man and spirit beings alike.

[God] saw that it was good for him to be complete in everything, and used [Jesus] to bring everything back into a good relationship with Himself, by making peace through his blood [that was shed] on the pole, regardless of whether these things are heavenly or earthly.

I think we can know exactly who they are. It states "they" formerly did not obey, "when" God's patience waited in the days of Noah.

So, they were "spirits" from the days of Noah. But the crazy thing is, beyond this, I have not personally found anymore evidence that points to why they are singled out as such, verses others who lived after Noah. It is very interesting. There is probably more on it in the Bible, I just personally have not dug that deep in it.

 

[TRUTH over TRADITION]

I think we can know exactly who they are. It states "they" formerly did not obey, "when" God's patience waited in the days of Noah.

So, they were "spirits" from the days of Noah. But the crazy thing is, beyond this, I have not personally found anymore evidence that points to why they are singled out as such, verses others who lived after Noah. It is very interesting. There is probably more on it in the Bible, I just personally have not dug that deep in it.

Who were these spirits; that is the question that stumps me too Nathan. Like you said we know they existed in the days of Noah, but were they men, the nephilim, or the sons of God who consorted with the daughters of men in Genesis 6? I kind of lean away from them being men but the other 2 options perhap lead to more questions than answers.

 

[Alabaster]

1 Peter 3:19-20 Amp
19In which He went and preached to the spirits in prison, 20[The souls of those] who long before in the days of Noah had been disobedient, when God's patience waited during the building of the ark in which a few [people], actually eight in number, were saved through water.



These spirits were the spirits of wicked dead PEOPLE in Hades or Sheol, who existed pre-Covenant, who needed to hear the message of the Messiah.

 

[TRUTH over TRADITION]

1 Peter 3:19-20 Amp
19In which He went and preached to the spirits in prison, 20[The souls of those] who long before in the days of Noah had been disobedient, when God's patience waited during the building of the ark in which a few [people], actually eight in number, were saved through water.



These spirits were the spirits of wicked dead PEOPLE in Hades or Sheol, who existed pre-Covenant, who needed to hear the message of the Messiah.

You do realize that in the Amplified version the translators added in [the souls of those] and that that addition is not present in the Greek manuscripts they should have been translating. That addition represents them adding their belief into their translation as opposed to accurately translating the text and letting the reader determine the truth of the matter.
We must ask what this "prison" was that these spirits were in. In asking this question we see that the Bible does mention a 'prison' of sorts on a few occasions. Let's look at them.

Jude 5-6
Despite the fact that you already know everything, I want to remind you that; although Jehovah saved people out of the land of Egypt, He thereafter destroyed those who didn’t show faith. 6 He also locked up the [heavenly] messengers who didn’t keep the position they had long ago and left the place where they lived. So, He’s now keeping them in perpetual darkness where they await the judgment of the Great Day.

2 Peter 2:4
4 Why, God didn’t spare the messengers who sinned, but threw them into the dark pits of Tartarus, where they are awaiting His justice. 5 And He didn’t spare the first arrangement. Yet, He guarded Noah (who was a preacher of righteousness) along with seven others, when He brought a downpour upon a system of godless people.

These are the Biblical examples we have of God sending angels or spirit beings to prison.

 

[Alabaster]

You do realize that in the Amplified version the translators added in [the souls of those] and that that addition is not present in the Greek manuscripts they should have been translating. That addition represents them adding their belief into their translation as opposed to accurately translating the text and letting the reader determine the truth of the matter.
We must ask what this "prison" was that these spirits were in. In asking this question we see that the Bible does mention a 'prison' of sorts on a few occasions. Let's look at them.

I trust those scholars more than anyone here. I am thinking that the word, 'spirits' is throwing people off into the land of fantasy.

 

[sdktlk]

You do realize that in the Amplified version the translators added in [the souls of those] and that that addition is not present in the Greek manuscripts they should have been translating. That addition represents them adding their belief into their translation as opposed to accurately translating the text and letting the reader determine the truth of the matter.
We must ask what this "prison" was that these spirits were in. In asking this question we see that the Bible does mention a 'prison' of sorts on a few occasions. Let's look at them.

Jude 5-6
Despite the fact that you already know everything, I want to remind you that; although Jehovah saved people out of the land of Egypt, He thereafter destroyed those who didn’t show faith. 6 He also locked up the [heavenly] messengers who didn’t keep the position they had long ago and left the place where they lived. So, He’s now keeping them in perpetual darkness where they await the judgment of the Great Day.

2 Peter 2:4
4 Why, God didn’t spare the messengers who sinned, but threw them into the dark pits of Tartarus, where they are awaiting His justice. 5 And He didn’t spare the first arrangement. Yet, He guarded Noah (who was a preacher of righteousness) along with seven others, when He brought a downpour upon a system of godless people.

These are the Biblical examples we have of God sending angels or spirit beings to prison.

In Hebrews 12:23 we find, "To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect." By this we see the "spirits in prison" can very easily be those persons who were disobedient in "the days of Noah."

Those messengers (fallen angels) who left their first estate were, and are, bound in chains of darkness, reserved for the day of judgment. The Lord Jesus did not visit them, He only came because of fallen man, and it was to them that He preached.

 

[TRUTH over TRADITION]

In Hebrews 12:23 we find, "To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect." By this we see the "spirits in prison" can very easily be those persons who were disobedient in "the days of Noah."

Those messengers (fallen angels) who left their first estate were, and are, bound in chains of darkness, reserved for the day of judgment. The Lord Jesus did not visit them, He only came because of fallen man, and it was to them that He preached.

Are there any other spirits in prison that are referenced in scripture aside from these messengers who left their 1st estate? If there are, then Jesus very well could have ministered to them, but if we can find none, we add to scripture by saying that Jesus ministered to a group that we do not even have evidence for their existence.
You brought up Hebrews 12 which is worth a looksee in its context.

For you have not come to a place that was touched and burned with fire, and to a cloud, and to darkness, and to a storm, and to a trumpet's resounding, and to a voice of declarations which those who heard begged that not a word be added to them. For they did not carry out the statement, "If even a wild animal should touch the mountain, it will be stoned."368 And, so frightening was that which appeared that Moses said, ""I fear greatly" and tremble."​

On the contrary, you have come to Mount Zion and to a city of the living God, a heavenly Jerusalem, and to tens of thousands of messengers – a full gathering, and to an assembly of firstborns who have been inscribed in the heavens, and to God (judge of all), and to the spirits of just people who have been made complete, and to a mediator of a new covenant of Jesus and of the sprinkling of blood which says a better thing than Abel's blood.​

What exactly are these 'spirits' of just people? Does spirit here refer to their nature, an unseen force that belongs to them, or perhaps to some spiritual being who in some way had been assigned to those termed as just people? Was it the spirits who have been made complete or is it the just people who have been made complete? More questions it seems..........

 

[TRUTH over TRADITION]

I trust those scholars more than anyone here. I am thinking that the word, 'spirits' is throwing people off into the land of fantasy.

It makes sense to pay attention to those well studied but ultimately it is on the individual to do their homework to make sure that the info those "well studied" put forth is actually factual. In this case, that may not be so as ou have many other scholar who have undertaken the task of translating that do not insert that which the writers of the Amplified Version have. What we must realize is that what we find in brackets in often just the opinion of the translators that they have added or is their attempt to fill in something so that the phrase will make sense in English. In order to accomplish the 2nd goal sometimes an educated guess is the best thing that the translators can do and indeed what they must do in order for a text to make any sense to the modern reader. This does NOT excuse them from the guilt of placing unnecessary insertions into God's Word to support what they believe because doing so leads readers to accept their additions as the word of God as well when in fact those additions are not.

 

[Alabaster]

It makes sense to pay attention to those well studied but ultimately it is on the individual to do their homework to make sure that the info those "well studied" put forth is actually factual. In this case, that may not be so as ou have many other scholar who have undertaken the task of translating that do not insert that which the writers of the Amplified Version have. What we must realize is that what we find in brackets in often just the opinion of the translators that they have added or is their attempt to fill in something so that the phrase will make sense in English. In order to accomplish the 2nd goal sometimes an educated guess is the best thing that the translators can do and indeed what they must do in order for a text to make any sense to the modern reader. This does NOT excuse them from the guilt of placing unnecessary insertions into God's Word to support what they believe because doing so leads readers to accept their additions as the word of God as well when in fact those additions are not.

I rely on Holy Spirit to reveal to me whether what I am reading is truth or error. In this instance He tells me that the spirits spoken of are the spirits of the dead who lived during the years of Noah while He was responding to the call to build the ark. It aligns with the context of the passage.

Wisdom is an important, yet often missed quality.

 

[Elijah674]

Were we not ALL in the prison house of satan from day one??

[15] But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

(Wow, 'i' wasn't asked about this so what does one do Lord??)

[16] Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.

[17] For it is better, if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing.
[18] For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
(All of us, ALL of Mankind was His aim, by the Striving of the Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost)

[19] By which [also] he went and [preached unto the spirits in prison]; (Gr. pneumata, plural of pneuma, 'wind', breath.' pneuma means just plain person. see 1 Cor16:18, where 'my spirit' means me, + Gal.6:18. your spirit means you. Just living human beings like the 'breath' has one become.. a 'living soul'. (person)
'spirit'. See also Luke 8:55, Num. 5:14. (These are at the bottom of the post for you!)

[20] Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
(and these were saved that were at times disobedient, the rest were drowned as maturely disobedient)

[21] The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
[22] Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.

(Rev. 14:6 has it the Everlasting 'ETERNAL' GOSPEL. And with Noah preaching the EVERLASTING GOSPEL, surely the Holy Spirit was Striving along the Preacher of Righteous as Peter called him! And for 120 years! Do you remember what Christ/God/Man said that the Holy Spirit would do?? Uplift Himself (Christ) & not Himself. That was the Holy Spirits work from day one on after Adam sinned! )

1 Cor. 16
[17] I am glad of the coming of Stephanas and Fortunatus and Achaicus: for that which was lacking on your part they have supplied.
[18] For they have refreshed [my spirit and yours]: therefore acknowledge ye them that are such.
(Paul's live person or persons!)

Gal. 6
[15] For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth anything, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
(A Born Again 'spiritual one!)
[16] And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.
[17] From henceforth let no man trouble me: for I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus.
[18] Brethren, the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with [your spirit.] Amen. (again your spirit means you)

Num.
[14] And the spirit of jealousy come upon him, and he be jealous of his wife, and she be defiled: or if the spirit of jealousy come upon him, and he be jealous of his wife, and she be not defiled:
(again, just the person identified!)

Luke 8
[54] And he put them all out, and took her by the hand, and called, saying, Maid, arise.
[55] And her spirit came again, and she arose straightway: and he commanded to give her meat.
[56] And her parents were astonished: but he charged them that they should tell no man what was done.
(came again! Gr. pneumata, plural of pneuma, 'wind', breath.' pneuma means just plain person,

Gen. 2
[7] And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the [breath of life;] and man [became a living soul.]

Rev. 16:3 even has the fish in the sea with a soul. Or breath that gives life. 'Every living soul died in the sea'.

One more?? Eccl. 3
[19] For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity.
[20] All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.


--Elijah

 

[sdktlk]

Are there any other spirits in prison that are referenced in scripture aside from these messengers who left their 1st estate? If there are, then Jesus very well could have ministered to them, but if we can find none, we add to scripture by saying that Jesus ministered to a group that we do not even have evidence for their existence.
You brought up Hebrews 12 which is worth a looksee in its context.

For you have not come to a place that was touched and burned with fire, and to a cloud, and to darkness, and to a storm, and to a trumpet's resounding, and to a voice of declarations which those who heard begged that not a word be added to them. For they did not carry out the statement, "If even a wild animal should touch the mountain, it will be stoned."368 And, so frightening was that which appeared that Moses said, ""I fear greatly" and tremble."​

On the contrary, you have come to Mount Zion and to a city of the living God, a heavenly Jerusalem, and to tens of thousands of messengers – a full gathering, and to an assembly of firstborns who have been inscribed in the heavens, and to God (judge of all), and to the spirits of just people who have been made complete, and to a mediator of a new covenant of Jesus and of the sprinkling of blood which says a better thing than Abel's blood.​

What exactly are these 'spirits' of just people? Does spirit here refer to their nature, an unseen force that belongs to them, or perhaps to some spiritual being who in some way had been assigned to those termed as just people? Was it the spirits who have been made complete or is it the just people who have been made complete? More questions it seems..........

The Greek word, G1342, dikaios, (interpreted just men in Heb 12:23) is in the New Testament appx 76 times and, for the most part, is interpreted righteous.

Example: "Then shall the righteous (dikaios) shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear." (Mat 13:43) By a study of the use of the word we can see that it human beings that are being referred to, as only a human can, through the Blood of our Lord Jesus, be made righteous.

In so far as "prison" is concerned we hear the Lord saying, " “[FONT=Georgia, serif]There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]and there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]and desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]and in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]would come [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]from thence[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif].” (Luk 16:19-26)

Before the crucifixion and resurrection both the lost and the justified by faith were held in a place of "confinement." The lost, as we can see, were and are held in hades, the place of departed souls, and Father Abraham and Lazarus are seen in a place which we hear the Lord call "paradise."

This is the prison where the Lord went and preached for we hear Him say to the justified by faith thief on the cross,[/FONT] “[FONT=Georgia, serif]Truly I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.” (Luk 23:43)[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]

There is much more in Scripture to be discovered about the "prisoners" that were in paradise and what happened to them, but that is another subject.
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[Sam21]

After the death of the body of Jesus on the cross then Jesus in Spirit form went to a PRISON where the spirits of those who had drowned in the flood were kept and preached to them the gospel. The place where these departed souls were kept(your soul goes with your spirit when you die) was not paradise,hell, or the lake of fire, it was the exact word prison(a holding place). In simple language, some of the people who drowned in the flood of Noah were given a chance to accept Christ as Savior.
Even though the world was evil in the time of Noah there were still some people trying to serve God, however only Noah attained a position of righteousness where he could be saved. My thoughts are that these were the people who were trying to trust God but could not measure up in their time but could be saved by the sacrifice of Christ.

 

[Alabaster]

The Greek word, G1342, dikaios, (interpreted just men in Heb 12:23) is in the New Testament appx 76 times and, for the most part, is interpreted righteous.

Example: "Then shall the righteous (dikaios) shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear." (Mat 13:43) By a study of the use of the word we can see that it human beings that are being referred to, as only a human can, through the Blood of our Lord Jesus, be made righteous.

In so far as "prison" is concerned we hear the Lord saying, " “[FONT=Georgia, serif]There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]and there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]and desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]and in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]would come [/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]from thence[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif].†(Luk 16:19-26)

Before the crucifixion and resurrection both the lost and the justified by faith were held in a place of "confinement." The lost, as we can see, were and are held in hades, the place of departed souls, and Father Abraham and Lazarus are seen in a place which we hear the Lord call "paradise."

This is the prison where the Lord went and preached for we hear Him say to the justified by faith thief on the cross,[/FONT] “[FONT=Georgia, serif]Truly I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.†(Luk 23:43)[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, serif]

There is much more in Scripture to be discovered about the "prisoners" that were in paradise and what happened to them, but that is another subject.
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Good post.

 

[Elijah674]

It is good to see that most of the today ones are coming right out & teach that satan told the truth in Gen. 3:4, for the sincere to see. For it makes Rev. 17:1-5 that much more clear for why that prophecy is clearly given. And now these 'belive'ism' ones are ALL SET UP for spiritualism. Matt. 24:24 + *2 Thess. 2:9-11.

That is sad, but it has been told us all beforehand! And one thing more, these all will most likely take a more prominent role in the FINISHED work of 666 as well, with other false teachings.

--Elijah

 

[Alabaster]

It is good to see that most of the today ones are coming right out & teach that satan told the truth in Gen. 3:4, for the sincere to see. For it makes Rev. 17:1-5 that much more clear for why that prophecy is clearly given. And now these 'belive'ism' ones are ALL SET UP for spiritualism. Matt. 24:24 + *2 Thess. 2:9-11.

That is sad, but it has been told us all beforehand! And one thing more, you all will most likely take a more prominent role in the FINISHED work of 666 as well, with other false teachings.

--Elijah

Whatevah...

 

[Hawkins]

I think we can know exactly who they are. It states "they" formerly did not obey, "when" God's patience waited in the days of Noah.

So, they were "spirits" from the days of Noah. But the crazy thing is, beyond this, I have not personally found anymore evidence that points to why they are singled out as such, verses others who lived after Noah. It is very interesting. There is probably more on it in the Bible, I just personally have not dug that deep in it.

Very good speculation.

I think that they are singled out perhaps because what Noah brought to us is the first Covenant ever to humans. It seems that a Covenant is an explicit demand of faith in God. This first Covenant may also specify explicitly that God will no longer destroy us in whole before the end of days comes. He will however judge us after each one's physical death. That is, there will be a final judgment.

Perhaps because all those in Noah's day (except for Noah's family) can't pass the judgment (the worst moment in human history just as what is at the moment now on earth). As a result, whenever none can be saved by Law, Jesus Christ is thus needed. They are thus nominated to be under the Second Covenant as they don't seem to subject to any covenant yet.

 

[Alabaster]

Very good speculation.

I think that they are singled out perhaps because what Noah brought to us is the first Covenant ever to humans. It seems that a Covenant is an explicit demand of faith in God. This first Covenant may also specify explicitly that God will no longer destroy us in whole before the end of days comes. He will however judge us after each one's physical death. That is, there will be a final judgment.

Perhaps because all those in Noah's day (except for Noah's family) can't pass the judgment (the worst moment in human history just as what is at the moment now on earth). As a result, whenever none can be saved by Law, Jesus Christ is thus needed. They are thus nominated to be under the Second Covenant as they don't seem to subject to any covenant yet.

This is what I believe. You have put it well. Thank you!

 

[Elijah674]

It is good to see that most of the today ones are coming right out & teach that satan told the truth in Gen. 3:4, for the sincere to see. For it makes Rev. 17:1-5 that much more clear for why that prophecy is clearly given. And now these 'belive'ism' ones are ALL SET UP for spiritualism. Matt. 24:24 + *2 Thess. 2:9-11.

That is sad, but it has been told us all beforehand! And one thing more, these all will most likely take a more prominent role in the FINISHED work of 666 as well, with other false teachings.

--Elijah

Me again:
It seems that some take this above post personal as to them??? (see Rom. 8:14?)

But let me say that 'i' pay very little attention to personal posting ones! In fact one on this site that I never read their post because they have been blocked by me for quite a spell because my inbox was being bombarded! (persomal and kind of nasty as well) And it has only been recently that it was found by me that who I thought was a he, is a she? (that is for me!) So when they post, I do not know what they post.

Now: About this post of mine above. This is not the only site that I post on. My mind had been trained to hate sin & LOVE the sinner. The above post [TAKES IN] what has been POSTED all over the Earth! (Got that?? NOTHING PERSONAL!! But the 'teachings' 'i' see as satanic!) And I have posted this many many times before that very little if anything is personally meant by me. (a few exceptions are personal Brothers! And a few that really seem to be 'sincere' searchers are in my mail box)

CASE IN POINT: Here is a post from another site. On this site one [post] said in documentation that God indeed lied & satan told the truth in Gen. 3:3-5. And even with that being posted, it is easier to understand the post & post back truth as you see it. In other words, THE POST IS UP FRONT & not like some others that are not.

Here is another post to me:
The Bible is literal with some metaphoric messages and that is what is meant by the "worm' Elijah.

From post #41

[FONT=Verdana,arial]Elijah comment:[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana,arial]PS: It is interesting how the Holy Spirit is working with [some] at the present time! (see Acts 3:19) I mentioned about two in prison that we were studying with?? Both are 35 & minister's sons. One Pentecostal & the other of the two minister's is Baptist. And [I have never] in all my years found such quick learner's of the Holy Spirits Leading as these two boys! And before it all shuts down, we will again see Joel 2 & Acts 2 repeated! Eccl. 3:15 But all of these Rev. 17:5 ones have their feet already in solid satanic spiritual concrete. Immortal maggots burning eternally in hell![/FONT]

And by the way Webster has been around about as long as these eternal burning maggots, huh?
metaphoric: 'a figure of speech in which a word for one idea or thing is used in place of an other to suggest a likeness between them'

But the thing is, is that these false 'teachers' have been teaching this stuff non/metaphorically for well past any 120 years for an actual truth! See Gen. 6:3 + they claim to be Born Again along with being 'LED of the Holy Ghost. Rom. 8:14
--Elijah

PS: And yes,these two men, were being CONVICTED by the HOLY SPIRIT while 'IN PRISON'!

 

[Sam21]

The idea that the spirits in prison were angels because they were called spirits is a idea without much biblical evidence. We need to keep in mind that when Jesus was preaching to them that He was a spirit also(his body was dead) when we die our spirit leaves our body and the soul goes with it. My point,a spirit did not drown in the flood(can a spirit drown in water?)a human died in the flood and the human spirit went to a holding place, and when Jesus died then His spirit went to their spirits and preached the gospel. Those people were not suffering in Hades and it appears that they qualified for salvation by faith in Christ but they did not qualify to be saved from the flood.