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[__ Prayer __] Suffering / Depression / Panic Attacks

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Douglas Summers

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Hi Brothers in Christ. Who is suffering from or has in the past from Deep Depression and Panic Attacks. or severe PDST? I was taking a Herb by way of internet that worked just great (Kratom). But it is addictive. I had to keep taking more and more to feel normal. I finally realized I was hooked on something that they claim is not addictive. Quit cold turkey! (what a terrible and rough time) I quit last Friday. If anyone has been through withdraw, they know what I mean.
I have always had depression (I have had one hell of a childhood, miserable, homeless). I use to drink a lot in the 60's to get over that feeling that I was by myself with no one to go to (I had 2 brothers and 2 sisters), but I was an inconvenience to them. I lived with my older sister for awhile, but she kicked me out in the street? (never gave here a minutes trouble) Don't know why?

Back in the late 80's I started taking Paxil and that worked great. When I had surgery on my shoulder they gave me oxycodone. It did not bother me and I really did not use much of It. But later in life I had another shoulder operation, my Paxil did not work as well and as I began to slide back into depression. The oxy i was given kept me from depression. Back then, you could get oxy from your doctor pretty easy. But, I finally quit the oxy, no withdraw, because i Did not abuse it, but just when I felt I needed it.

I'am now still on Paxil which does not seem to help. Doctor started me on Xanax 0.5 mg. 3/TD and 2.5 mg. 1/D at bed time. The Xanax is very addictive, but I'm careful with it. It does not seem to do anything.. I pray myself to sleep. I would rather be with the Lord than feel this way. Has anyone gone through this? I trust the Lord. but without pleasing God and warning men and seeking His calling and election in us..........Everything else is vain and vanity.

May the Lord have Mercy our souls..........The answer is yes, that are looking for His coming.
Cover us like a warm winter blanket O'Lord on a cold winter night. Wrap us in your Love and security. Make us see how poor and wretched the rich and mighty men of the age are and be bold in thy Spirit to preach the loving gospel to save their souls. Amen

Love the Brethern
How powerful our prayers would be if we were all in one mind.
Pray for me, pray for us,Pray for all men, Pray for the Lords return, Because you said we could in your name. Amen.

In Christ everlasting arms
Douglas Summers
 
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Praying for you Brother Douglas Summers. I reckon the very worst withdrawal I've suffered is when I began using Copenhagen to get off cigarettes. I never spit, and was taking in a tremendous increase of nicotine. I gave up the cigarettes, but when it came time to give up the chew, I suffered withdrawal so severe I had to go back to cigarettes to survive as it were. There was sweating, cramping, and outright sickness. The following time I quit cigarettes I use mints, gum, and anything else other than a portion of the hair that bit me. Weak you say; uh, yes I was. That snuff was so relaxing I went to church with it in my cheek. Depressed? Oh yeah, but little by little God took the need from me. Sufferings in Christ to be included among those joint heirs of Rom 8:17? I didn't even consider it, but I knew I was under compulsion to change as the result of a habit I took upon me I no longer wanted.
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hi. as a teenager, i was prescribed high doses of Klonopin and amphetamines. getting off was --horrible--. oddly enough, the benzodiazepine taper was far, far worse than quitting the amphetamines. i almost had a seizure, btw.

these days, my "medicine" is Abilify and Lamictal, a seizure drugs psychiatrists use to treat "Bipolar I" people w/ lots of recurrent depression. now and then I take a low dose of gabapentin (prescribed for me). nothing addictive, no big thing I guess.

I don't have a real answer for you. psychiatry...at best, they offer band-aids, if you're a Christian. the drugs don't "fix" anything, and sometimes they create their own set of problems. for instance, I probably need a tranquilizer/antipsychotic for years to come, maybe indefinitely. ever seen "mental patients" with facial tics and such? Yeah, that's tardive dyskinesia, and its an often permanent effect of being on an antipsychotic for a long time. the newer drugs, such as abilify, have a lower rate of it, but they can still cause it.

high dose vitamins seem to help me. at least...i don't have tardive dyskinesia or any other major side effects, and I only require 2 daily psych drugs. its called Orthomolecular...its just loads of B3, b-complex, vitamin C, vitamin E, etc. bunches of pills everyday, but...once I got into the routine, it was OK. not too expensive, either.

I'll definitely keep you up in prayer. sometimes, well-meaning Christians condemn people who suffer with these sorts of problems/ailments. other times, I get the sense that they expect us to just do what the shrinks say to do, don't ask questions. ugh.

we definitely do live in a fallen world...
 
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Praying for you Brother Douglas Summers. I reckon the very worst withdrawal I've suffered is when I began using Copenhagen to get off cigarettes. I never spit, and was taking in a tremendous increase of nicotine. I gave up the cigarettes, but when it came time to give up the chew, I suffered withdrawal so severe I had to go back to cigarettes to survive as it were. There was sweating, cramping, and outright sickness. The following time I quit cigarettes I use mints, gum, and anything else other than a portion of the hair that bit me. Weak you say; uh, yes I was. That snuff was so relaxing I went to church with it in my cheek. Depressed? Oh yeah, but little by little God took the need from me. Sufferings in Christ to be included among those joint heirs of Rom 8:17? I didn't even consider it, but I knew I was under compulsion to change as the result of a habit I took upon me I no longer wanted.
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Thanks Eugene, Sharing our suffering brings the brotherhood closer, we should be able to share of our sufferings in service to the Lord also. The Lord had emotions just like us....eve more (Luke 22:41-44).
 
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Douglas Summers said:
Hi Brothers in Christ. Who is suffering from or has in the past from Deep Depression and Panic Attacks. or severe PDST? I was taking a Herb by way of internet that worked just great (Kratom). But it is addictive. I had to keep taking more and more to feel normal. I finally realized I was hooked on something that they claim is not addictive. Quit cold turkey! (what a terrible and rough time) I quit last Friday. If anyone has been through withdraw, they know what I mean.
I have always had depression (I have had one hell of a childhood, miserable, homeless). I use to drink a lot in the 60's to get over that feeling that I was by myself with no one to go to (I had 2 brothers and 2 sisters), but I was an inconvenience to them. I lived with my older sister for awhile, but she kicked me out in the street? (never gave here a minutes trouble) Don't know why?

Back in the late 80's I started taking Paxil and that worked great. When I had surgery on my shoulder they gave me oxycodone. It did not bother me and I really did not use much of It. But later in life I had another shoulder operation, my Paxil did not work as well and as I began to slide back into depression. The oxy i was given kept me from depression. Back then, you could get oxy from your doctor pretty easy. But, I finally quit the oxy, no withdraw, because i Did not abuse it, but just when I felt I needed it.

I'am now still on Paxil which does not seem to help. Doctor started me on Xanax 0.5 mg. 3/TD and 2.5 mg. 1/D at bed time. The Xanax is very addictive, but I'm careful with it. It does not seem to do anything.. I pray myself to sleep. I would rather be with the Lord than feel this way. Has anyone gone through this? I trust the Lord. but without pleasing God and warning men and seeking His calling and election in us..........Everything else is vain and vanity.

May the Lord have Mercy our souls..........The answer is yes, that are looking for His coming.
Cover us like a warm winter blanket O'Lord on a cold winter night. Wrap us in your Love and security. Make us see how poor and wretched the rich and mighty men of the age are and be bold in thy Spirit to preach the loving gospel to save their souls. Amen

Love the Brethern
How powerful our prayers would be if we were all in one mind.
Pray for me, pray for us,Pray for all men, Pray for the Lords return, Because you said we could in your name. Amen.

In Christ everlasting arms
Douglas Summers
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I'll add you in my prayers first thing tonight.
 
Douglas Summers said:
Hi Brothers in Christ. Who is suffering from or has in the past from Deep Depression and Panic Attacks. or severe PDST? I was taking a Herb by way of internet that worked just great (Kratom). But it is addictive. I had to keep taking more and more to feel normal. I finally realized I was hooked on something that they claim is not addictive. Quit cold turkey! (what a terrible and rough time) I quit last Friday. If anyone has been through withdraw, they know what I mean.
I have always had depression (I have had one hell of a childhood, miserable, homeless). I use to drink a lot in the 60's to get over that feeling that I was by myself with no one to go to (I had 2 brothers and 2 sisters), but I was an inconvenience to them. I lived with my older sister for awhile, but she kicked me out in the street? (never gave here a minutes trouble) Don't know why?

Back in the late 80's I started taking Paxil and that worked great. When I had surgery on my shoulder they gave me oxycodone. It did not bother me and I really did not use much of It. But later in life I had another shoulder operation, my Paxil did not work as well and as I began to slide back into depression. The oxy i was given kept me from depression. Back then, you could get oxy from your doctor pretty easy. But, I finally quit the oxy, no withdraw, because i Did not abuse it, but just when I felt I needed it.

I'am now still on Paxil which does not seem to help. Doctor started me on Xanax 0.5 mg. 3/TD and 2.5 mg. 1/D at bed time. The Xanax is very addictive, but I'm careful with it. It does not seem to do anything.. I pray myself to sleep. I would rather be with the Lord than feel this way. Has anyone gone through this? I trust the Lord. but without pleasing God and warning men and seeking His calling and election in us..........Everything else is vain and vanity.

May the Lord have Mercy our souls..........The answer is yes, that are looking for His coming.
Cover us like a warm winter blanket O'Lord on a cold winter night. Wrap us in your Love and security. Make us see how poor and wretched the rich and mighty men of the age are and be bold in thy Spirit to preach the loving gospel to save their souls. Amen

Love the Brethern
How powerful our prayers would be if we were all in one mind.
Pray for me, pray for us,Pray for all men, Pray for the Lords return, Because you said we could in your name. Amen.

In Christ everlasting arms
Douglas Summers
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Hello Doug,
I used anything I could get my hands on during and after Vietnam. I was and sometimes still am depressed with PTSD thanks to the Blood and guts experience of the Vietnam War and Close Combat experience, that and finding my best friend blown into pieces as he was, apparently pulling his boots on. I have some really happy nightmares that scare my wife half to death.

Depression is a heavy load but withdrawal is a monster I never wish to approach again. May God bless us both with the sanity found in His love.
 
Swans said:
Kratom is bad stuff. http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...deadly-risks-of-herb-kratom-citing-36-deaths/

It's an opiate replacement that is supposedly a healthy herbal alternative.
This could help too. http://americanaddictioncenters.org/withdrawal-timelines-treatments/kratom/

Praying for you.
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Thanks Swans, The way the sellers of Kratom claim it is not addictive, makes you think it is just a natural herb. I really felt good taking it....then it hit me!.......I was hooked. I went cold turkey last Friday. I'm some better now. Withdraw is no fun. Thanks for the info. In God's Grace
Douglas Summers
 
Douglas Summers said:
Thanks Swans, The way the sellers of Kratom claim it is not addictive, makes you think it is just a natural herb. I really felt good taking it....then it hit me!.......I was hooked. I went cold turkey last Friday. I'm some better now. Withdraw is no fun. Thanks for the info. In God's Grace
Douglas Summers
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God's Grace to you too. I know with his help you'll get better and better.
Sometimes diet can cause depression. I had food allergies that messed with my health really badly. My husband is a professional chef, which is way above the status of cook and this was before we got married. He saved my life telling me about food allergies. Who thinks those exist anyway.
I adjusted my diet after I first went on a liquid cleanse for a week. You can smell cheesecake from across a room after three days of eating nothing. Don't walk into a bakery if you do this. Just a warning.
Anyway, after that I committed to macrobiotic diet for a year to get my body online again. Now, I'm right as rain.
Maybe that personal sharing helps you too.
I hope so. :hug Yours in health.
 
Swans said:
God's Grace to you too. I know with his help you'll get better and better.
Sometimes diet can cause depression. I had food allergies that messed with my health really badly. My husband is a professional chef, which is way above the status of cook and this was before we got married. He saved my life telling me about food allergies. Who thinks those exist anyway.
I adjusted my diet after I first went on a liquid cleanse for a week. You can smell cheesecake from across a room after three days of eating nothing. Don't walk into a bakery if you do this. Just a warning.
Anyway, after that I committed to macrobiotic diet for a year to get my body online again. Now, I'm right as rain.
Maybe that personal sharing helps you too.
I hope so. :hug Yours in health.
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Thanks Swans....keep me in your prayers.
 
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