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How can we say: Sweet Heart of Mary be my salvation?

What did Mary conceive by the power of the Holy Spirit?
What did Mary consent too?
What did Mary bring forth or bear?

In the ancient prayer:
THE ANGELUS
I
V. The Angel of the Lord declared unto Mary.
R. And she conceived by the Holy Spirit. [Recite the Hail Mary]
II
V. Behold the handmaid of the Lord.
R. Be it done unto me according to Thy word. [Recite the Hail Mary]
III
V. And the Word was made flesh.
R. And dwelt among us. [Recite the Hail Mary]

V. Pray for us, O Holy Mother of God.
R. That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.

Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is
the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners,
now, and at the hour of our death. Amen.

LET US PRAY:

Pour forth, we beseech Thee, O Lord, Thy grace into our hearts;
that we to whom the Incarnation of Christ, Thy Son, was made known by the
message of an Angel, may by His Passion and Cross, be brought to the glory
of His Resurrection through the same Christ Our Lord. Amen.
 
donadams said:
V. Pray for us, O Holy Mother of God.
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Why?
We can just pray right to the Father ourselves in the same power and authority as Jesus.

23In that day you will no longer ask Me anything. Truly, truly, I tell you, whatever you ask the Father in My name, He will give you. 24Until now you have not asked for anything in My name. Ask and you will receive, so that your joy may be complete. John 16:23-24

If Jesus said we will no longer ask Him for anything, how much less then we will ask Mary for anything! Mary can not provide anything that we don't already have available to us through direct prayer to the Father himself. We don't need Mary. And we don't need the Catholic church. If it's your thing, good. I don't want to take that away from you. But we don't need it.
 
donadams said:
How can we say: Sweet Heart of Mary be my salvation?

What did Mary conceive by the power of the Holy Spirit?
What did Mary consent too?
What did Mary bring forth or bear?

In the ancient prayer:
THE ANGELUS
I
V. The Angel of the Lord declared unto Mary.
R. And she conceived by the Holy Spirit. [Recite the Hail Mary]
II
V. Behold the handmaid of the Lord.
R. Be it done unto me according to Thy word. [Recite the Hail Mary]
III
V. And the Word was made flesh.
R. And dwelt among us. [Recite the Hail Mary]

V. Pray for us, O Holy Mother of God.
R. That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.

Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is
the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners,
now, and at the hour of our death. Amen.

LET US PRAY:

Pour forth, we beseech Thee, O Lord, Thy grace into our hearts;
that we to whom the Incarnation of Christ, Thy Son, was made known by the
message of an Angel, may by His Passion and Cross, be brought to the glory
of His Resurrection through the same Christ Our Lord. Amen.
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Who do you pray to, Mary or God?
 
donadams said:
In the ancient prayer:
THE ANGELUS
I
V. The Angel of the Lord declared unto Mary.
R. And she conceived by the Holy Spirit. [Recite the Hail Mary]
II
V. Behold the handmaid of the Lord.
R. Be it done unto me according to Thy word. [Recite the Hail Mary]
III
V. And the Word was made flesh.
R. And dwelt among us. [Recite the Hail Mary]

V. Pray for us, O Holy Mother of God.
R. That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.

Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is
the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners,
now, and at the hour of our death. Amen.

LET US PRAY:

Pour forth, we beseech Thee, O Lord, Thy grace into our hearts;
that we to whom the Incarnation of Christ, Thy Son, was made known by the
message of an Angel, may by His Passion and Cross, be brought to the glory
of His Resurrection through the same Christ Our Lord. Amen.
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Like I say, if this is your thing, fine, do it. But why do you have to have programmed, scripted prayers? Can't anyone in the Catholic church, especially it's hierarchy, pray unrehearsed and spontaneously from the heart????

I consider scripted, regimented church ceremonies to be cold dead religion. But if that's your thing...
 
donadams said:
What did Mary conceive by the power of the Holy Spirit?
[...]
What did Mary bring forth or bear?
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She brought forth the image of Christ. The same thing that happens to us when we, too, hear the word of God and Jesus is birthed in us.

19My children, for whom I am again in the pains of childbirth until Christ is formed in you
Galatians 4:19
 
Jethro Bodine said:
We can't.
That's why we don't.
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That’s not what scripture says!
Lk 1:30 And the angel said to her: Fear not, Mary, for thou hast found grace with God.
Lk 1:48 For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
History is not in you’re favor either, I wonder what is: oh ya “fundamentalism”, “error” and “heresy”!
 
Jethro Bodine said:
Why?
We can just pray right to the Father ourselves in the same power and authority as Jesus.

23In that day you will no longer ask Me anything. Truly, truly, I tell you, whatever you ask the Father in My name, He will give you. 24Until now you have not asked for anything in My name. Ask and you will receive, so that your joy may be complete. John 16:23-24

If Jesus said we will no longer ask Him for anything, how much less then we will ask Mary for anything! Mary can not provide anything that we don't already have available to us through direct prayer to the Father himself. We don't need Mary. And we don't need the Catholic church. If it's your thing, good. I don't want to take that away from you. But we don't need it.
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Lk 1:30 again, who found our salvation?
 
Jethro Bodine said:
Like I say, if this is your thing, fine, do it. But why do you have to have programmed, scripted prayers? Can't anyone in the Catholic church, especially it's hierarchy, pray unrehearsed and spontaneously from the heart????

I consider scripted, regimented church ceremonies to be cold dead religion. But if that's your thing...
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Goats like exciting dangerous rocky ledges with “rock”
n roll but the sheep still waters and green peaceful pastures!
 
Jethro Bodine said:
She brought forth the image of Christ. The same thing that happens to us when we, too, hear the word of God and Jesus is birthed in us.

19My children, for whom I am again in the pains of childbirth until Christ is formed in you
Galatians 4:19
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Who did Simeon see in lk 2:30?
 
JLB said:
So you dont pray to Mary?
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Mary prays and intercedes for her children like Esther interceded for the children of Israel.

Mary found grace with God for us! Lk 1:30
Hail Mary full of grace! Lk 1:28

He who has no mother is an orphan, with no identity, Jesus Christ said: I give you my mother to be your mother, and you would not!

Jn 19:26
Rev 12:17
 
Jethro Bodine said:
How do you get out of this that Mary is our salvation?????
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Adam lost our salvation Mary found it!
Mary found grace or favor with God, this grace or favor is our “salvation”
Lk 2:30 Simeon did not say I have seen an infant, baby child or Jesus, he said “I have seen my salvation”
Jesus Christ is not only our savior but in His very person “our salvation” and Mary is his mother, “mother of our salvation”!
 
donadams said:
Mary prays and intercedes for her children like Esther interceded for the children of Israel.

Mary found grace with God for us! Lk 1:30
Hail Mary full of grace! Lk 1:28

He who has no mother is an orphan, with no identity, Jesus Christ said: I give you my mother to be your mother, and you would not!

Jn 19:26
Rev 12:17
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Please show me some scriptures where people on earth prayed to other people rather than God.



JLB
 
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