Many means a large amount, but not all without exception. All can cunt for the large amount of the many. Is that all you see ? Certainly more was said.You seem intent on making the word "many" different than "all".
I see them the same.
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Many means a large amount, but not all without exception. All can cunt for the large amount of the many. Is that all you see ? Certainly more was said.You seem intent on making the word "many" different than "all".
I see them the same.
I'm not here to play games with you. If you only want to keep this one sided and not allow others to discuss with their replies than what is the point of your problem that man/mankind was added. The point you should be making is that Jesus laid down His own life that we who believe in Him will have eternal life with Him.Lol, I cant believe you asked me that, read the OP again
How can we know for sure it corresponds with Heb 2:9. Are you fluent in the Hebrew language? Do you think anyone is going to just take your word for this!I already did, it corresponds with Heb 2:9
Here is how I would explain it. All being whosoever of the many that believe in Christ will have eternal life with Him.You seem intent on making the word "many" different than "all".
I see them the same.
If you cant follow along, just ignore it.How can we know for sure it corresponds with Heb 2:9. Are you fluent in the Hebrew language? Do you think anyone is going to just take your word for this!
Do you understand the OP ?
Yeah, but where is that word in the verses I used in the OP ?Yes. Do you understand the word “whoever” or “whosoever”?
There is nothing to ignore as there is nothing to discuss as far as you are concerned.If you cant follow along, just ignore it.
Theres plenty to discuss in the OP if you didn't evade it. How did I develop my point ?There is nothing to ignore as there is nothing to discuss as far as you are concerned.
Yeah, but where is that word in the verses I used in the OP ?
The writer of Hebrews wrote Heb 2:9
9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
Now honestly, did the writer write here that Christ tasted death for all mankind without exception here ? Nope he did not. In the original man isnt in the verse:
τὸν δὲ βραχύ τι παρ᾽ ἀγγέλους ἠλαττωμένον βλέπομεν Ἰησοῦν διὰ τὸ πάθημα τοῦ θανάτου δόξῃ καὶ τιμῇ ἐστεφανωμένον ὅπως χάριτι θεοῦ ὑπὲρ παντὸς γεύσηται θανάτου
Man was added by the translators. The word pas can refer to all the whole, the sum total of all the group intended. Context is important n determining the group that the writer has in mind. Lets look at the very next verse 10
10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.
Bingo, its the many sons that e suffered and died for, or tasted death for, The word many polys:
many, much, large, many, numerous, great
He tasted death for many Sons, a great number of them, everyone of them. This is important,, because later in the same epistle the writer uses the adjective many again to denote who He tasted death for Heb 9:28
So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
See to taste death back in Heb 2:9 is the exact same thing as " to bear the sins of many;" again, the many Sons of vs 10, everyone of the sons is who He tasted death for, not all of mankind without exception.
See Isa 53:11
He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
Who then, did Christ NOT die for?Many means a large amount, but not all without exception. All can cunt for the large amount of the many. Is that all you see ? Certainly more was said.
9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.
11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,
12 Saying, I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee.
13 And again, I will put my trust in him. And again, Behold I and the children which God hath given me.
14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.
16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.
17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.
18 For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.
Whoever is not a Son, did you read Heb 2:10 ? What does it say ?Who then, did Christ NOT die for?
You dont have to be restricted, as I dont have to be restricted, Im discussing from the context of Heb 2Who said we are restricted to verses you use?
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16
Again, do you understand what the word “whoever” or “whosoever” means?
JLB
Everyone of the Many Sons He tasted death for.Jesus tasted death for every man; everyone
Not every man will be justified, as it takes believing and therefore obeying the Gospel to be justified; saved, born again.
JLB
The writer of Hebrews wrote Heb 2:9
9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
Now honestly, did the writer write here that Christ tasted death for all mankind without exception here ? Nope he did not. In the original man isnt in the verse:
See to taste death back in Heb 2:9 is the exact same thing as " to bear the sins of many;" again, the many Sons of vs 10, everyone of the sons is who He tasted death for, not all of mankind without exception.
See Isa 53:11
He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.