Well, I thought about it and no the verse was specific about earth:
Genesis 9
1And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.
Actually you're thinking about Genesis 1:28
Gen 1:28 And God blessed them. And God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply
and fill the earth and subdue it and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth."
What else is God going to say? The earth is the center of His creation. God is there with man. He can talk to them anytime He wants and they can ask Him questions anytime they want. He is not hidden from them. You start with where you are. This statement does not eliminate any other future potential choices that are now seemingly hypothetical. How can you say that 6000 years later God may not have told them that it was Ok to fill the galaxy? Saying "earth" at the beginning does not eliminate other possibilities.
Actually it is exactly as I stated it. If populations were allowed to expand without the limiting effect of death, the planet would be over ran in a very short time. We have six billion here now after only a hundred thousand years with death as a factor.
No one denies this in the current scheme of things in this present post-Flood world. None of that is relevant. You are assuming that the created world that was “very good†is the world we live in by your statement. Again, we deal with what we do not know save from the fossil record, which shows that tropical plants existed in artic areas suggesting a greenhouse effect.
Also, people lived longer and presumably developed much slower than presently. Just look at the age of people when they had their first child. I don’t think that any had children before 35 before the Flood and the norm was about 100 when they started having children. So again, we can’t assume a uniformitarian view.
And I don’t think you got my last point regarding population growth either. It is quite debatable whether our current sexual fixations are what would have been considered normal if man had never fallen. They had all the time in the world. What was the rush for having children? I think you underestimate the cumulative power of all these items coupled with man’s creativity and curiosity and intelligence.
Where does the bible say that? The last refernce to Elijah was as a spiritual appearance at the transfiguration. When did he change to physical?
You are assuming that Elijah’s appearance at the transfiguration was spiritual. Actually, Peter thought they were physical, why else would he have wanted to build them a place to rest?
Mat 17:4 And Peter said to Jesus, "Lord, it is good that we are here. If you wish, I will make three tents here, one for you and one for Moses and one for Elijah."
So you point doesn’t hold water here.
Jesus is physical........well, Jesus is in Heaven, how do physical anythings get in there? Where flesh and blood can't go. Where we are going to be like Him and that is like angels. Jesus was spiritual when He met with Paul.....Nope , I wont buy that one.
Jesus is physical in the sense He is more real, real like Heaven. Flesh and blood, what we think of as “physical†is but shadow in comparison. Real people can go to real places like Heaven and shadow places like earth.
We are not going to be spiritual like the angels, we are going to be like them in that we are not given in marriage.
Mar 12:25 For when they rise from the dead, they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.
Yes, that will be something that is different…kind of…in that I can’t really say that Adam and Eve were married either according to the Scriptures. Only that Gen 2:24 provides a pattern for marriage, which may semantics on my part. I’ll have to keep thinking about that one and be open-ended about it.
I’m only willing to go with what Jesus said specifically and that is that people don’t need to worry about who they are married to. They will be individuals like angels are, which was the context of the passage.
Why can't you see Him? Because we are fundamentally unable to being but mere fallen creatures, shadows of what we should be. The change is significant enough to limit our vision, spiritually and physcially.
We are forgiven creatures because of the cross. I believe, therefore I qualify, therefore I should be able to see this physical Jesus...........I can't.
Positionally forgiven … practically sinners/fallen. When we are glorified our practical state catches up to our positional state. As long as you are practically fallen, like we all are who live and breath, you can’t see Jesus at your will.
No, I doubt He changed from being real in Christianity. So now you're saying that the spiritual (Jesus) is the real thing and we're just in a dream somehow.....Well, if it's that way there isn't much to worry about is there?
No, that’s not what I’m saying. Jesus is “real/true†and Adam and Eve were “real/true†and in the Fall, Adam and Eve became “shadows†of what they should have been, ghosts of reality, but the ghosts don’t realize it, they think they are “realâ€Â/true†because they have no other basis for quantifying the difference. Jesus never stopped being real, he cloaked Himself into our “realityâ€Â, a.k.a. “the fleshâ€Â. Don’t confuse what I’m saying with dreams. It is hard to think out of the box of the aquarium.
Firt you have to show me a verse that says Jesus returns to earth. He returns to the 'air' in 1 Thess 4, He returns to 'take' us to where He is...John 14, but I don't know a single verse that says Jesus Christ returns physically to earth.
There are a number of verses, but most people inoculate themselves from see it and couch them in other terms. You’ve already mentioned one, Acts 1:11.
Zec 14:4 On that day his feet shall stand on the Mount of Olives…
This is in the context of the Lord coming (14:1).
He’s got blood again supernaturally.
Good, where did you read that?
In the Bible where He walked around and talked and presumably ate fish; things that all use blood.
No, I meant the earthly garden, if that was the climax location, the ultimate utopea for mankind, how did Satan get in? Do you consider the devil can get near you in the eternal kingdom?
I feel like I should just repost what I wrote. You are aware of the references in Job and Zechariah of Satan coming before God? Are you saying that He should not have access to God in Heaven or the earthly Garden, which in my mind are no different because God is there in the earthly garden. Where God is, is Heaven. Don’t try to separate Heaven from God. The earthly garden was “real/true†until the Fall when it became “shadow/fallenâ€Â. Then God had to hide/cloak His glory because it could not contain His unveiled glory.
Rather, I would think the focus should rather be on asking why God just didn’t send the Devil to the Lake of Fire that He had prepared for the Devil and his angles the second they rebelled
God needed Satan to conduct the operations of the Great tribulation.
Sarcasm is fun. But the real answer is to display His justice to all creation because the sentence of eternal separation is as bad as it sounds.