The Great `beastly` Federations of our Time. (Dan. 7)

[Marilyn C]

The Great `beastly` Federations of our time.



The Father bringing the Nations to His Son.

We know from God`s word that the Father is bringing His Son`s enemies, (the nations) to His Son for Him to execute judgment upon them.

`The LORD (Father) said to my Lord, (Son) sit at my right hand till I make your enemies your footstool.` (Ps. 110: 1)

This we know will culminate in the judgment of the final Gentile rulership under Satan. (Rev. 14: 8, 19: 15)

And we are privileged to see how the Father is bringing the nations to His Son for judgment. In His word God gives us the details of how He is dealing with the nations.



The Prophet Daniel is given the details.

The prophet Daniel was given a vision of four great `beastly` kingdoms, Federations that God brings forth in the time before the Son sets up His rulership through Israel over the nations.

God the Father sends forth the four great spirits of heaven to stir up the nations and come together in great power blocs. (Dan. 7: 1 - 3) The vision is in pictorial form, with winds and spirits being the same Hebrew word, and the beasts representing kingdoms, (Dan. 7: 23)

I will present each of the four beasts in a separate post so you may want to just discuss that one or the four.

I know many people have been taught that these `beastly` powers are historic however it behoves me to present what I have been taught and believe, that they are of our time.



Reasons for 4 Federations being contemporary.

• They arise one at a time and continue contemporaneously, (at the same time) for the last beastly power treads them all down. (Dan. 7: 7)
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• The first three powers are able to continue on after the last one if judged. (Dan. 7: 12)
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• The great powers are in the time of the Lord setting up His rulership under Israel. (Dan. 7: 27)

 

[Marilyn C]

• 1. LION – The British Commonwealth & America.
• `The first (beast) was like a lion, and had eagle`s wings.` (Dan. 7: 4)
• Here we have a super power like a Lion with Eagle`s wings.
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• The Lion is the symbol of Royal Sovereignty. (King/Queen)
• The Eagle is the symbol of Imperial Power. (Empire)
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• The British Empire controlled one-fifth of the world in the 19th Century.
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• `...its wings were plucked off;....
• & a man`s heart was given to it.` (Dan. 7: 4)
• At first the British Empire was a `powerful beast,` imperialistically conquering, dominating and colonising. Then we see a remarkable change. The different colonies are each given the right to rule themselves, but still coexist as a group. In political language, co-existing in freedom, peace and equality.
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• America who originally came from the `Lion,` the British Empire, became totally independent, yet continues to be a dominant and integral part of this powerful confederacy.

 

[Marilyn C]

• 2. BEAR – The Russian Confederacy.
• `And suddenly another beast, a second, like a bear.` (Dan. 7: 5)
• The bear was the national symbol of the Soviets. They were the next super power to arise in the world. They were called the U.S.S.R. – the United States of Soviet Russia.
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• `It was raised up on one side, and had three ribs in its mouth between its teeth.
• And they said to it: “Arise, devour much flesh.”` (Dan. 7: 5)
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• It certainly `devoured` country after country, incorporating them into one monolithic dominion, behind the ` iron curtain.` In 1991 there was an uprising in the U.S.S.R. & the former Soviet peoples then separated into their different countries. This change was called by the Russians as `Perestroika,` meaning restructuring. Elections are held but they are not `free,` as each country still retains the same philosophy, (Communism) ideology and militaristic ambitions.
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• The Russian Republic is the dominant force in the Confederacy of nations from the Slovav countries of Eastern Europe to the various Republics along Russia`s southern border.
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• (And we know that there will be a Russian war against Israel in the future. Ez. 38 & 39 )

 

[Marilyn C]

• 3. LEOPARD – The European Union.
• `After this I looked, and there was another (beast), like a leopard,....` (Dan. 7: 6)
• The Leopard symbol has a direct connection to Europe, as they were used on their banners & shields in wars.
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• `The beast also had four heads,.... (Dan. 7: 6)
• The four heads on this beast denote a multiplicity of authority or government who are united in a common purpose. Six countries of Europe agreed to a commercial unity of purpose in a common market.
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• However at the time of inauguration, three of these countries, combined their representation & voting, into one entity called `Benelux.`
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• 4 Heads - France, Germany, Italy and Benelux - (Belgium, Netherlands & Luxembourg)
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• `Dominion was given to it.` (Dan. 7: 6)
• Each of the foundation countries were defeated and powerless at the conclusion of World War 2. However authority as independent nations was granted by favour of the Allies.
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• Many countries desired to join the European Union and worked toward being eligible. The 2008 economic world crisis caused many countries to restructure their finance and become European dependent.

 

[Marilyn C]

• 4. TERRIFING – The Islamic Confederacy
• `...behold a fourth beast dreadful and terrible, exceedingly strong.....
• which shall be different from all the other kingdoms,
• and shall devour the whole earth,....` (Dan. 7: 7 & 23)
• This last `beast`, the Islamic Confederacy, has yet to have its full manifestation. However we can see it rising quickly today. Islam Fundamentalism stretches far across the globe and is the fastest growing force over the past decade.
• `There is a subtle shift of power underway in the Middle East. An Islamic shock wave,
• centred in Iraq, is spreading like a ripple from country to country. It will change forever the face of Islam and redraw the map of the Middle East. The rallying cry is “Yes to Islamic unity.” (Arabic media after the Gulf War.)
• The Gulf war was the catalyst for the coming together of a new alignment of nations. This is the forming of a confederation of Islamic nations.
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• `...and the 10 horns that were on its head,.... (Dan. 7: 20)
• `..The 10 horns are 10 kings who shall arise from this kingdom.` (Dan. 7: 24)
• Seven of the 10 `kings`(Emirs) of this Islamic Confederacy that is forming are the leaders of the cooperation Council for the Arab States of the Gulf ,
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• Saudia Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Oman with Yeman joining soon.

`...and another shall arise after them:
He shall be different from the first ones, and shall subdue 3 kings.` (Dan.7: 24 b)


The 3 areas that are not in this Council are Iraq, Syria & Jordan. This is the former Empire of Assyria. In the near future they will come together for economic reasons. This will eventually be the power base for the leader of the Islamic Confederacy.

At the moment the two branches of Islam, Sunni & Shi-ite, have great conflict between them. This polarisation will continue to create tension and turmoil and inhibit this confederacy realising its full potential till this leader emerges and unites them.

• God says, `O My people..... do not be afraid of the Assyrian...` (Isaiah 10: 24)
• After the Russian war with Israel there will be a power vacuum in the Middle East and this Islamic leader will have the opportunity to `bring peace,` to that region. This will then give him global credibility followed by a quick rise to Global prominence until finally he becomes the World Leader.

 

[for_his_glory]

Daniel Chapter 7

Rev 12:3 the other sign John saw was a great red dragon meaning Satan. Remember, this is a vision and a sign as Satan has not yet been cast out of heaven until the beginning of the 3 1/2 years of the greatest tribulation we will ever see nor ever see again, Matthew 24:21. The description of the dragon being great and red depicts its nature and character as being fierce and murderous, John 8:44. This red dragon is depicted as having seven heads, ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. This is also confirmed in Rev 17 as mystery Babylon is described. The seven heads and ten horns refer to the original ten kingdoms of which three were subdued by the little horn of Daniel 7:8. The last kingdom which stands greater than all the others is that of a revived Roman Empire that takes control over all the ten nations who then implements a deceiving peace treaty with the Muslims in which the Dome of the Rock will be given over to the son of perdition as he reigns from the very Temple mount of God, meaning the holy place in Matthew 24:15. This is the abomination Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24:15, 16 that we are to flee from when we see the son of perdition take his seat in Jerusalem for 3 1/2 years.

Rev 13 the beast rises up out of the sea as the sea here is symbolic of people and nations as in a sea of humanity, Daniel Chapter 7:1-8; Revelation 17:15. This beast is a Luciferian system that controls world wide economics, political, military, educational, environmental and false religious system. This beast system that Satan works through gives its power to the beast out of the earth as the beast out of the earth appears as the Lamb of God, but is a false Christ being the son of perdition, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12, with two horns. The two horns represent the Old Roman Empire that received its deadly wound back in 1798 by General Berthier who made his entrance into Rome and abolished the Roman government and established a secular one. That caused them to scatter into the other ten nations (ten horns). The wound was healed in 1929 by Mussolini.

God speaks to us in scripture of a 3 1/2 year tribulation during the time of the seventh trumpet sounding, not a seven year tribulation, as being time, times and half time which equals 1260 days = 3 ½ years or 3 ½ Times – Hebrew calendar only had 30 days for each month and this is where you get 1260 days or 3 ½ years.
[Scripture reference]
Revelation 12:14; Daniel 7:25; Daniel 12:7
1260 days – Revelation 11:3; Revelation 12:6
42 months – Revelation 11:2; Revelation 13:5

No where in scripture does it mention a seven year tribulation, but only seven trumpets of God's fierce wrath as scripture says we will always have tribulations as the last time will be such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be, Matthew 24:21; Deut 4:30; 7:19; 29:1-6; 1 Samuel 26:24; Matthew; John 16:33; Romans 12:12; 24:21; James 1:2; 1 Peter 1:6.

Below is that of the seven remaining nations described as four beasts in Daniel 7:1-8 and the three kingdoms that were subdued by the little horn, which is the Roman Empire.

The three kingdoms that were subdued by the little horn of Daniel 7:24 are the Heruli, Vandals, and Ostrogoths who were eliminated by the year 538 AD under the leadership of the Eastern Roman Emperor Justinian whose deadly wound came in 1798.

Seven remaining nations that still exist today:

Babylonian Empire:
(Iraq) The lion represents the winged lions that guarded the royal places of Babylon. This Empire ran from 2000BC - 1759BC

Medo – Persian Empire:
(Iran) The ribs of the bear are part of the consuming greed that devours the first empire.

Grecian Empire:
(Greece, Turkey, Syria, Egypt) Four wings of the leopard described the swiftness of this empire that ran from 334-331BC. It wrestled world dominion from Medo-Persia. After the death of Alexander the Great the kingdom was divided into four minor kingdoms that continued as prominent factors in world politics until the Roman Empire gathered it back as one kingdom.

Roman Empire: (little horn, Daniel 8:9-14, 23-27)
Iron represents the stronghold this nation had. Daniel chapter 2 mentions the iron element of this empire that it to will be divided and broken as God will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed.
This Empire ran from 753BC -27BC

 

[for_his_glory]

The seven heads are that of the Babylonian Empire, Medo/Persian Empire, Grecian Empire and Roman Empire. The ten horns represent the nations the Roman Empire scattered to when the deadly wound was put upon them, Daniel 7:23-25; Rev 13:3. The deadly wound came in 1798 when General Berthier of France, who made his entrance into Rome, abolished the Roman government and established a secular one and captured Pope Pius VI, who soon died in captivity in Valence, on August 29, 1799. In 1801 Napoleon made an agreement with Pope Pius II establishing Napoleon’s Organic Articles of granting the Tribunal and the Corps legislative partial control of the concordat in order to help the state monitor any politically harmful Catholic or Protestant movements or activities. The wound was largely healed in 1929 when Mussolini gave the Vatican back to Pope Pius XI and established it as a country in it's own right in the Lateran Treaty.

The Roman Empire began in 753BC by Romulus who founded Rome in 27BC with Augustus Caesar becoming the first emperor of Rome in 27 BC and died in 14AD. Rome controlled over two million square miles stretching from the Rhine River to Egypt and from Britain (England) to Asia Minor which made up the Grecian Empire of Greece, Turkey, Syria and Egypt. In 146BC the Romans destroyed Corinth during the Battle of Corinth and made the Greece Empire into a province of the Roman Empire. This timeline goes from 753BC to 27BC. Nero burned Rome in 64AD and blamed the Christian community in the city causing the Roman Empires first persecution of Christians. In 1453 was the rise of the Ottoman Empire that conquered Constantinople destroying the Byzantine Empire (Eastern Roman Empire) that reigned from 330AD to 1453AD. The Roman Empire was then called the Holy Roman Empire that was a political entity beginning in 800AD - 1806AD from the time of Charlemagne (Holy Roman Emperor) who protected Pope Leo III from Adrian's supporters in Rome to Francis II, King of France. Pope Pius VII was the Pope from 1800-1823. The Roman Empire is known today as Vatican City, a city-state surrounded by Rome in Italy who has diplomatic relations with every nation around the world.

The crowns on its heads show that this dragon claims royal authority against the true King who is God of all creation as he prepares to take his seat above all that which is Gods Kingdom claiming he is God as he prepares to deceive the world through that of an existing Roman Empire, Daniel 8:9-12; Isaiah 14:12-15.

The beast rises up out of the sea, Rev 13, as the sea here is symbolic of people and nations as in a sea of humanity, Daniel Chapter 7:1-8; Revelation 17:15. The seven heads are that of the Babylonian Empire, Medo/Persian Empire, Grecian Empire and Roman Empire. The ten horns/nations represent the nations the Roman Empire scattered to when the deadly wound was put upon them, Daniel 7:15-28.

These ten nations were the Anglo-Saxons (Germans in Great Britain), the Franks (French), Suevi (Portuguese), Visigoths (Spanish), Burgundians (Swiss), Alemanni (Germans), Lombards (Italians), Ostrogoths, Heruli, and the Vandals in northern Africa. The last three being Ostrogoths, Heruli, and the Vandals had already been destroyed by the Roman Empire before their deadly wound came in 1798.

The beast out of the earth, Rev 13:11-18, is the revived Roman Empire (mystery Babylon, Rev 17:5) which causes man to take its mark. Daniel 7:25 and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, He will think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time, 2 Thessalonians 2:13-12.


The ten horns are ten kings who have not yet received their kingdoms as the Vatican's New World Order Headquarters and the United Nations Organization, One Security Council that claims authority over the world are waiting for ten permanent members. In 2009 the UNO divided the world into ten economic regions and each one will have a Jesuit Provincial set over them, but their end will come with the glory of the Lord striking them down when He returns with His army, being the host/angels, Rev 19:11-21
Ten Kingdoms of a One World Government:
Kingdom 1: Canada, Mexico and the United States of America
Kingdom 2: European Union – Western Europe
Kingdom 3: Japan
Kingdom 4: Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Israel and Pacific Islands
Kingdom 5: Eastern Europe
Kingdom 6: Latin America, Central and South America
Kingdom 7: North Africa and the Middle East
Kingdom 8: Central Africa
Kingdom 9: South and Southeast Asia
Kingdom 10: Central Asia

 

[Marilyn C]

Hi FHG,

It seems you have the `whole world,` (as per your 10 kings) controlling over - the historic Babylon, Medes & Persians and Greece. That does not make sense. Care to explain, (without downloading lots of excess material, thank you.)

 

[Marilyn C]

Also FHG,

To really have the discussion as per the OP you need to address the 3 reasons I posted for the contemporary Federations.

• They arise one at a time and continue contemporaneously, (at the same time) for the last beastly power treads them all down. (Dan. 7: 7)
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• The first three powers are able to continue on after the last one if judged. (Dan. 7: 12)
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• The great powers are in the time of the Lord setting up His rulership under Israel. (Dan. 7: 27)

 

[for_his_glory]

Hi FHG,

It seems you have the `whole world,` (as per your 10 kings) controlling over - the historic Babylon, Medes & Persians and Greece. That does not make sense. Care to explain, (without downloading lots of excess material, thank you.)

There are seven remaining nations that still exist today as in chronological order. These are the four beast mentioned in Daniel 7:1-7.

Babylonian Empire:
(Iraq) The lion represents the winged lions that guarded the royal places of Babylon. This Empire ran from 2000BC - 1759BC

Medo – Persian Empire:
(Iran) The ribs of the bear are part of the consuming greed that devours the first empire.

Grecian Empire:
(Greece, Turkey, Syria, Egypt) Four wings of the leopard described the swiftness of this empire that ran from 334-331BC. It wrestled world dominion from Medo-Persia. After the death of Alexander the Great the kingdom was divided into four minor kingdoms that continued as prominent factors in world politics until the Roman Empire gathered it back as one kingdom.

Roman Empire: (little horn, Daniel 8:9-14, 23-27)
Iron represents the stronghold this nation had. Daniel chapter 2 mentions the iron element of this empire that it to will be divided and broken as God will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed.
This Empire ran from 753BC -27BC

The ten horns, Daniel 7:7 are ten kings who have not yet received their kingdoms. These are the beastly federations when the NWO comes to fruition.

These are the ten Kingdoms of a One World Government:
Kingdom 1: Canada, Mexico and the United States of America
Kingdom 2: European Union – Western Europe
Kingdom 3: Japan
Kingdom 4: Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Israel and Pacific Islands
Kingdom 5: Eastern Europe
Kingdom 6: Latin America, Central and South America
Kingdom 7: North Africa and the Middle East
Kingdom 8: Central Africa
Kingdom 9: South and Southeast Asia
Kingdom 10: Central Asia

 

[Marilyn C]

There are seven remaining nations that still exist today as in chronological order. These are the four beast mentioned in Daniel 7:1-7.

Babylonian Empire:
(Iraq) The lion represents the winged lions that guarded the royal places of Babylon. This Empire ran from 2000BC - 1759BC

Medo – Persian Empire:
(Iran) The ribs of the bear are part of the consuming greed that devours the first empire.

Grecian Empire:
(Greece, Turkey, Syria, Egypt) Four wings of the leopard described the swiftness of this empire that ran from 334-331BC. It wrestled world dominion from Medo-Persia. After the death of Alexander the Great the kingdom was divided into four minor kingdoms that continued as prominent factors in world politics until the Roman Empire gathered it back as one kingdom.

Roman Empire: (little horn, Daniel 8:9-14, 23-27)
Iron represents the stronghold this nation had. Daniel chapter 2 mentions the iron element of this empire that it to will be divided and broken as God will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed.
This Empire ran from 753BC -27BC

The ten horns, Daniel 7:7 are ten kings who have not yet received their kingdoms. These are the beastly federations when the NWO comes to fruition.

These are the ten Kingdoms of a One World Government:
Kingdom 1: Canada, Mexico and the United States of America
Kingdom 2: European Union – Western Europe
Kingdom 3: Japan
Kingdom 4: Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Israel and Pacific Islands
Kingdom 5: Eastern Europe
Kingdom 6: Latin America, Central and South America
Kingdom 7: North Africa and the Middle East
Kingdom 8: Central Africa
Kingdom 9: South and Southeast Asia
Kingdom 10: Central Asia

Hi FHG,

You have only written some of the same again. You have not addressed the OP.

Reasons for 4 Federations being contemporary.

• They arise one at a time and continue contemporaneously, (at the same time) for the last beastly power treads them all down. (Dan. 7: 7)
• The first three powers are able to continue on after the last one if judged. (Dan. 7: 12)
• The great powers are in the time of the Lord setting up His rulership under Israel. (Dan. 7: 27)

 

[Marilyn C]

Hi for-his-glory,

Let me explain further which may help in understanding.

The reasons for the 4 Federations being Contemporary.

1.They arise one at a time and continue contemporaneously (at the same time) for the last beastly power treads then down.

`After this I saw in the night visions, and behold, a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, exceedingly strong. It had huge iron teeth; it was devouring, breaking in pieces, and trampling the residue with its feet.` (Dan. 7: 7)

Rome could not possibly tread down, trample, devour, break in pieces Babylon, Medes & Persians, for they were all long gone, God had judged them. Thus those beastly powers are NOT historic.

2. The first 3 powers are able to continue on after the last one is judged.

`As for the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away, yet their lives were prolonged for a season and a time.` (Dan. 7: 12)

Again this was not possible for the historic rulers as they were all judged and dealt with by God. And those rulers did NOT continue on.

3.The great powers are in the time of the Lord setting up His rulership under Israel.

`Then the kingdom and dominion and the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people, the saints of the Most High.` (Dan. 7: 27)

The rulership of the Lord through Israel will then be over all the earth and the first 3 great powers will be given an extension of life to continue under that rulership.

 

[for_his_glory]

I am addressing what you call the four beastly federations of Daniels vision of four beastly kingdoms.

Lets go to Rev 13, the beast rises up out of the sea as the sea here is symbolic of people and nations as in a sea of humanity, Daniel Chapter 7:1-8; Revelation 17:15. This beast is a Luciferian system that controls world wide economics, political, military, educational, environmental and false religious system beginning in 2000BC with the Babylon beastly kingdom. This beast system that Satan works through gives its power to the beast out of the earth as the beast out of the earth appears as the Lamb of God, but is a false Christ being the son of perdition, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12.

This beast system started in 2000BC running through 27BC that makes up all four Empires (beastly kingdoms), or what you are calling 4 Federations. The rulership of these federations are ran by the prince of the power of the air known as Satan who works through the rulers of these 4 federations.

These kingdoms will be given to the saints of the Most High when they become the footstool of Christ, Psalms 110:1; Luke 20:43; Rev 11:15 for at that time we will reign with Christ.

Mystery Babylon still exist today until Christ comes back and destroys the beast and its false prophet and everyone that has followed after the beast.

 

[for_his_glory]

Daniel 7:1-7

Babylonian Empire (Iraq) the lion
Medo-Persian Empire (Iran) the bear
Grecian Empire (Greece, Turkey, Syria, Egypt) the leopard
Roman Empire (Jerusalem, Rome) the iron

 

[Marilyn C]

I am addressing what you call the four beastly federations of Daniels vision of four beastly kingdoms.

Lets go to Rev 13, the beast rises up out of the sea as the sea here is symbolic of people and nations as in a sea of humanity, Daniel Chapter 7:1-8; Revelation 17:15. This beast is a Luciferian system that controls world wide economics, political, military, educational, environmental and false religious system beginning in 2000BC with the Babylon beastly kingdom. This beast system that Satan works through gives its power to the beast out of the earth as the beast out of the earth appears as the Lamb of God, but is a false Christ being the son of perdition, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12.

This beast system started in 2000BC running through 27BC that makes up all four Empires (beastly kingdoms), or what you are calling 4 Federations. The rulership of these federations are ran by the prince of the power of the air known as Satan who works through the rulers of these 4 federations.

These kingdoms will be given to the saints of the Most High when they become the footstool of Christ, Psalms 110:1; Luke 20:43; Rev 11:15 for at that time we will reign with Christ.

Mystery Babylon still exist today until Christ comes back and destroys the beast and its false prophet and everyone that has followed after the beast.

Hi fhg,

However you have not addressed the reasons I gave for those 4 beasts being contemporary powers. You have just gone on to present your view again. That is not discussion. If you believe that those 4 beasts are historic then you need to address my points where I say they are contemporary.

Otherwise we are just posting my view, your view and not addressing WHY.

 

[Marilyn C]

Daniel 7:1-7

Babylonian Empire (Iraq) the lion
Medo-Persian Empire (Iran) the bear
Grecian Empire (Greece, Turkey, Syria, Egypt) the leopard
Roman Empire (Jerusalem, Rome) the iron

God judged the governments of those ancient world Rulers -

`God has numbered your kingdom, (rule of Babylon), and finished it.....
And Darius the Mede received the kingdom, (rule over that area).` (Dan. 5: 26, 31)

God has NOT judged the people or the land. Iraq, Iran and Greece are people and land today, they are NOT the former historic governments of those world rulers that God judged.

 

[T. E. Smith]

Hi FHG,

It seems you have the `whole world,` (as per your 10 kings) controlling over - the historic Babylon, Medes & Persians and Greece. That does not make sense. Care to explain, (without downloading lots of excess material, thank you.)

Hi MC,

It seems you have the 'whole world' controlling over America + Britain, Russia, the EU, and the Islamic nations. That does not make sense because the world is bigger than that; you seem to have left out Africa.

 

[for_his_glory]

Hi fhg,

However you have not addressed the reasons I gave for those 4 beasts being contemporary powers. You have just gone on to present your view again. That is not discussion. If you believe that those 4 beasts are historic then you need to address my points where I say they are contemporary.

Otherwise we are just posting my view, your view and not addressing WHY.

I am trying to explain the contemporary as all four best are past, present and future as in succession of each other as all four have always came against God's own. This is all from Nebuchadnezzar's dream that Daniel gave the interpretation of as lion, eagle wings, bear and iron.

 

[for_his_glory]

God judged the governments of those ancient world Rulers -

`God has numbered your kingdom, (rule of Babylon), and finished it.....
And Darius the Mede received the kingdom, (rule over that area).` (Dan. 5: 26, 31)

God has NOT judged the people or the land. Iraq, Iran and Greece are people and land today, they are NOT the former historic governments of those world rulers that God judged.

Dear sister

The four Empires have always governed the people and the land, as even today, and there were many of God's judgements against them. the last judgement will be against Mystery Babylon that will be destroyed by God's judgement on them when Christ returns, Rev 17-19.

This is not my views, but what scripture says that I am trying to discuss with you, but if that is not what you are looking for then I will bow out.

 

[for_his_glory]

Hi MC,

It seems you have the 'whole world' controlling over America + Britain, Russia, the EU, and the Islamic nations. That does not make sense because the world is bigger than that; you seem to have left out Africa.

Marilyn C did not say that, I did.