The Islamization Of American Towns: New Jersey's First Islamic City Is A Warning.

[miamited]

About that .

VIRAL: British woman sobs while telling news anchor how unsafe she feels in her own country

This is hard to listen to, but the alternative is ignoring it and doing nothing.

notthebee.com

Yes, and there are a lot of people living in America that 'feel' unsafe in their country. There are a lot of people in Afghanistan that 'feel' unsafe in their own country. There are a lot of people in Brazil that 'feel' unsafe in their country. Especially those in the poorer sections of these countries and cities. I'm really not much sold on some Idea that "Well, I can find someone who doesn't feel safe in their country and that proves this point that you're trying to prove. Many Americans don't feel safe in our country because of others with guns. Many Americans don't feel safe unless they're carrying a gun.

If that's the utopian life that you believe that one should pursue as godly righteousness and living by godly principles, then that's how you should live. Me, I've never felt any security in carrying a firearm. I wouldn't want to kill anyone with it even if I did. But my personal testimony is that after 70 years of living I can honestly say that I've never needed nor owned a firearm in my life. I think that's a good thing to not have to feel that one needs some metal object that can propel some very small metal object at a speed that rips someone else's body and takes away their life. But for those who believe an eye for an eye, then you would surrely feel justified. But in speaking on that very issue, Jesus said: "You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.' But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also. If anyone wants to sue you and take away your tunic, let him have your cloak also. And whoever compels you to go one mile, go with him two. Give to him who asks you, and from him who wants to borrow from you do not turn away.

Those are the words that my copy of the translations says that Jesus spoke about the very subject of our using the 'eye for an eye' version of justice. He seems to be telling us not to use that standard in our seeking some sort of justice that we might feel we are owed. Yes, God said not to go beyond eye for eye, but He didn't say that you had to take eye for eye. And how do you deem it eye for eye justice if you kill the other person before they kill you? What do you think?

 

[miamited]

The British have feelings such as .....

Brits Seek To Restore Nation By Demanding The Right To Bear … Pepper Spray?

Remember how Englishmen used to be able to own firearms?

notthebee.com

Isn't Great Britain run under fairly democratic principles? I mean, they have the equivalent of our legislature and senate to make their laws. As far as I know their governmental officials that make those laws are elected by the people much as ours are. So, that rather begs the question: If most Britains want to rid themselves of gun regulation wouldn't their elected representative government get rid of them... if that's what the majority of the people wanted?

But one can always find an alternative view to support:

Gun ownership: three quarters of Britons want stricter laws | YouGov

Approaching two in five think firearm ownership should be illegal

yougov.co.uk

Seems like some 3/4's of those living in the UK don't actually support the position that you're trying to push here.

 

[hawkman]

Seems like some 3/4's of those living in the UK don't actually support the position that you're trying to push here.

Is pepper spray just too much to ask for ?

 

[miamited]

Is pepper spray just too much to ask for ?

Oh, I don't know. I wasn't discussing pepper spray. But yes, it is illegal to possess, manufacture, sell or import pepper spray in the UK.

 

[hawkman]

Oh, I don't know. I wasn't discussing pepper spray. But yes, it is illegal to possess, manufacture, sell or import pepper spray in the UK.

The LEO in UK do use PAVA spray which is a synthetic pepper spray and no the common folk can't use that either .
https://www.fightsense.com/blog/is-pepper-spray-legal-in-uk-2025-law-facts-tools/

 

[Elijah7777]

How that equates to the British know everything and Americans don't is quite beyond my reasoning capabilities.

I was talking about Hong Kong and what their attitude is there. It is an interesting discussion to ask what do people in other countries think about America.

 

[miamited]

I was in Hong Kong 30 years ago when it was a British nation. They did not have much regard for Americans at all there. Of course now that it is a Chinese city it is a new ball game.

I'm not sure why one would expect that British or Chinese citizens living in Hong Kong should have much regard for Americans. Certainly, no more than the Brazilians living in Brazil or the Portuguese living in Portugal or the Zimbabwean living in Zimbabwe. That's actually a part of our new governmental understanding by Americans. That we are the greatest gift to the world and every other citizen of every other nation better recognize that or we'll blow them out of the water. Look, it's an entire earth with millions upon millions upon millions of people inhabiting it. The part that is marked off and delineated as the "UNTIED STATES" is just another piece of land where some of those millions upon millions live. But that other nations owe us some sense of greatness to behold isn't really a thing except that many, many Americans believe it.

BTW now that it is back under the control of the Chinese government, do you think they have your 'right' regard for Americans now? What about Mexicans? Do they have your 'right' regard for Americans? How about Ethiopians or Italians, or Germans or Iranians or Australians; do they all have your 'right' regard for Americans?

Folks we're all just people made in the image or our Creator. The fact that some have considered to build themselves up to be better or held in some particular regard is all manmade stuff. This American nationalism honestly has no place in the body of God's people. Do you know that there isn't a single reference in the Scriptures about our being asked of God to hold some nation above others? That all comes from the pride of man and the lust of his eyes. Do you believe that God asks us to be humble and not have haughty pride? Do you believe God when He tells those who are His to sit in the back and wait for the host to ask them to come forward? God seems to pretty well describe those who are His as humble and peaceful. Is that what America is today?

Now, that's not to say that we shouldn't have governments. No! Not at all. People need to be governed who are living in a group of any kind. Even my PTA has a type of hierarchy where someone is in charge and gets to decide how and what rules apply to PTA business. But this crowing that one government is somehow more godly or of greater value is all just made up in the pride of mankind.

You do recognize that God loves all of the people of the earth. I'm pretty confident God doesn't look down upon the earth and say to Himself, "Oh, those wicked Chinese are not recognizing the great nation of America that I established among them." That's all just the pride of man and it's getting much worse here in America because that's the understanding of the one who we have established to rule over us.

 

[miamited]

How that equates to the British know everything and Americans don't is quite beyond my reasoning capabilities.

I was talking about Hong Kong and what their attitude is there. It is an interesting discussion to ask what do people in other countries think about America.

And somehow that explains your understanding that the British know everything and Americans don't. I must honestly say that I know very little about what the attitude of the people of Hong Kong is towards America. I wouldn't be surprised that it isn't particularly grandiose or godlike worshipful.

So tell us all. What do the people of Hong Kong think about America today? And how is that better or worse than what the people of Hong Kong thought about America 30 years ago when you lived there?

 

[Elijah7777]

That we are the greatest gift to the world

Lots of people would like a green card. They would like a piece of the American Pie. It took my sister in law 12 years to get a green card for her son.

For those that do not know. Green cards are not actually green but they give people the permission to work and have a job. Not everyone with a visa has a green card.

 

[miamited]

Lots of people would like a green card. They would like a piece of the American Pie. It took my sister in law 12 years to get a green card for her son.

For those that do not know. Green cards are not actually green but they give people the permission to work and have a job. Not everyone with a visa has a green card.

Oh, and so you do believe that the United States of America is a great gift unto the world and that everyone else, all the other nations of people of the world, should have to pay us for the privilege of doing business with us. Sounds like a fairly haughty attitude regarding national pride.

 

[Elijah7777]

Oh, and so you do believe

I think anything under $100 should be free from tariffs. We are going to have a new world government soon. God is a God of absolute Justice. Just like the laws of Physics are absolute. We see this in the butterfly effect.

 

[jasonc]

I think anything under $100 should be free from tariffs. We are going to have a new world government soon. God is a God of absolute Justice. Just like the laws of Physics are absolute. We see this in the butterfly effect.

that won't get much . inflation from spending by the fed is coming home to roost

 

[Elijah7777]

that won't get much

It will get me what I want. I liked buying from Temu.

 

[jasonc]

It will get me what I want. I liked buying from Temu.

for parts ,anything decent ?

I have gotten more and more picky about things and it's why I support the tariffs .imagine buying something for an older car and it works half as well as OEM and the part replaced was as good as OEM .I used to get OEM grade parts aftermarket with quality that last .now I have to pray it fits and lasts or if Nissan or Toyota still carry it.

case in point my Nissan ac would freeze itself even with both windows down in the summer .the vents would have condensation around them .now the system struggles .that truck would spit ice at me during August !

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[Elijah7777]

for parts ,anything decent ?

I like to do diamond art. In Heaven we read about the River of Life as “clear as crystal.” This represents the rocks in the river will be like crystal they way they filter the light. So I do artwork to give people a little bit of a taste of what it will be like in Heaven.

 

[Freedomtofly]

I am from the U.K. and never actually wanted to own a gun. The gun laws original started to change in the 1960’s, but even back then one of my family had firearms. They changed in 1997 after The Dunblame and Hungerford attacks , at the time I think everyone agreed with the law changes. I don’t think the guns laws ever come up during election times, and not part of any party’s manifesto. I don’t see guns as being the answer to be honest, people with the intent on doing harm to others will find a way and guns would open a door to mass shootings again. I do however see a place for people here debating pepper spray, more so with the recent knife attacks and endless attacks on women.
By the way a recent post said that we Brits dislike American because of the use of the English language - not sure that is true, it doesn’t even cross my mind.
Xx

 

[jasonc]

I am from the U.K. and never actually wanted to own a gun. The gun laws original started to change in the 1960’s, but even back then one of my family had firearms. They changed in 1997 after The Dunblame and Hungerford attacks , at the time I think everyone agreed with the law changes. I don’t think the guns laws ever come up during election times, and not part of any party’s manifesto. I don’t see guns as being the answer to be honest, people with the intent on doing harm to others will find a way and guns would open a door to mass shootings again. I do however see a place for people here debating pepper spray, more so with the recent knife attacks and endless attacks on women.
By the way a recent post said that we Brits dislike American because of the use of the English language - not sure that is true, it doesn’t even cross my mind.
Xx

pepper spray and I say this as one who has been trained on it and you must be first hit with it and demonstrate the ability to fight with that being sprayed .why ? because most of the time when you spray someone with it you will be also hit with it and no law enforcement would ever say if the suspect has a knife use pepper spray to disarm him.
it's always one level above the force he is using .a knife is lethal force .if you grab or aim an.oc spray gun (pepper spray ) at a cop they can simply shoot you .

same with tazers . I served with a few who weren't bothered by oc spray

 

[Freedomtofly]

pepper spray and I say this as one who has been trained on it and you must be first hit with it and demonstrate the ability to fight with that being sprayed .why ? because most of the time when you spray someone with it you will be also hit with it and no law enforcement would ever say if the suspect has a knife use pepper spray to disarm him.
it's always one level above the force he is using .a knife is lethal force .if you grab or aim an.oc spray gun (pepper spray ) at a cop they can simply shoot you .

same with tazers . I served with a few who weren't bothered by oc spray

That’s interesting, thank you. I had no idea. The fact that it is allowed in the US I just presumed that it was a safe thing to use in self defence.

 

[jasonc]

That’s interesting, thank you. I had no idea. The fact that it is allowed in the US I just presumed that it was a safe thing to use in self defence.

I'm not saying it isn't useful only that of spray like any tool has limits .
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less then lethal is what law enforcement calls it but it's never for use with those that present lethal threats and oc spray is way stronger then pepper spray .

 

[Elijah7777]

By the way a recent post said that we Brits dislike American because of the use of the English language - not sure that is true, it doesn’t even cross my mind.

This was a referance to the British people in Hong Kong. If you remember Hong Kong was under British control for 100 years. I was in Hong Kong twice. Once when it was under British control and a second time after China had taken over the Government. My wife worked in Hong Kong for around 9 years before we got married.