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The Mystery of Reconciliation !

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The Mystery of Reconciliation !
Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

This blessed reconciliation by Christ's death is a Mystery unto the carnal mind, it cannot be received by it, hence confirming the writing of Paul 1 Cor 2:14

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

The natural man is simply the person who has not been born again, or born from above Jn 3:3

3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

You see, the Mystery of Reconciliation, by the Death of Christ, reveals to the saved, that even while they are being enemies, they had been reconciled to God, put into a right relationship with Him !

They were at one ment with God ! In fact, to be reconciled to God is at one ment, from the word atonement as its mentioned in Vs 11 Rom 5:10-11

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
11 And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received theatonement.

That word atonement is reconciliation, and so when sinners Christ died for are still enemies by nature, children of wrath as others Eph 2:2-3 they are nevertheless in an reconciled at one ment relationship with God, while alll others are under His condemnation and wrath Jn 3:18,36.

This the natural mind of man cannot fathom, or appreciate, in fact its absolute foolishness to him !
 
beloved57 said:
You see, the Mystery of Reconciliation, by the Death of Christ, reveals to the saved, that even while they are being enemies, they had been reconciled to God, put into a right relationship with Him !
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If the enemies of God are in a right relationship with God, then, once they become allied with God, wouldn't they then be in a wrong relationship with God?
 
beloved57 said:
You see, the Mystery of Reconciliation, by the Death of Christ, reveals to the saved, that even while they are being enemies, they had been reconciled to God, put into a right relationship with Him !
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Completely False!!!

We who are reconciled to God are no longer enemies, which is what reconcile means.

The way we are reconciled to God is through faith in Jesus Christ.

21 And you, who once were alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now He has reconciled 22 in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy, and blameless, and above reproach in His sight— 23 if indeed you continue in the faith, grounded and steadfast, and are not moved away from the hope of the gospel which you heard, which was preached to every creature under heaven, of which I, Paul, became a minister. Colossians 1:21-23

Those who are indeed reconciled to God, will continue to be reconciled if they continue in the faith that brought them into reconciliation.


JLB
 
Sinthesis said:
If the enemies of God are in a right relationship with God, then, once they become allied with God, wouldn't they then be in a wrong relationship with God?
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First of all, do accept what the mystery is ?
 
The Scripture is fairly straightforward (to me...). We were enemies of God, Christ died for us, we believed upon Him, we were then reconciled to God. I don't think there's anything terribly mysterious about all this.
 
Christ_empowered said:
The Scripture is fairly straightforward (to me...). We were enemies of God, Christ died for us, we believed upon Him, we were then reconciled to God. I don't think there's anything terribly mysterious about all this.
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Says nothing about believing on Him. People are not enemies if they believed on Him already. This scripture says that they were reconciled to God while being enemies by Christ death not by believing!
 
The Mystery of Reconciliation !2

Another thing about reconciliation that is an Mystery to the natural man and foolishness, is this, those reconciled to God while being enemies Rom 5:10 , dont have their sins imputed to them as other people do . Check this out 2 Cor 5:19

19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

See , reconciliation means that the reconciled do not have their sins imputed or charged to them, a whole world of people, jews and gentiles. All the sins the reconciled commit, from birth to the grave, can never be imputed to them. Its not even possible for those reconciled to God to ever die in their sins !
 
beloved57 said:
The Mystery of Reconciliation !2

Another thing about reconciliation that is an Mystery to the natural man and foolishness, is this, those reconciled to God while being enemies Rom 5:10 , dont have their sins imputed to them as other people do . Check this out 2 Cor 5:19

19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

See , reconciliation means that the reconciled do not have their sins imputed or charged to them, a whole world of people, jews and gentiles. All the sins the reconciled commit, from birth to the grave, can never be imputed to them. Its not even possible for those reconciled to God to ever die in their sins !
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If 2 Cor 5:19 actually meant what you claim it means then it should read "not imputing our trespasses unto us". It doesn't. Unfortunately you are confusing reconciliation with salvation. They are not the same, thus you haven't solved the mystery of reconciliation because you don't understand reconciliation.
 
Sinthesis said:
If 2 Cor 5:19 actually meant what you claim it means then it should read "not imputing our trespasses unto us". It doesn't. Unfortunately you are confusing reconciliation with salvation. They are not the same, thus you haven't solved the mystery of reconciliation because you don't understand reconciliation.
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Don't know what you talking about! But the reconciled don't have their sins imputed to them, that is what 2 Cor 5:19 indicates.
 
The Mystery of Reconciliation !3

Another Mystery of Reconciliation, even while the reconciled are being enemies Rom 5:10, and not having their sins charged to them 2 Cor 5:19, is the fact that they are counted righteous ! Yes, God hath imputed righteousness to them without works !

This is seen by scripture comparison. The reconciled dont have their sins imputed to them 2 Cor 5:19 and as such they are forgiven Ps 32:1-2

Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered.


2 Blessed is the man unto whom the Lord imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.

Pay attention to holy writ here. Transgression are forgiven, their sins are covered, when the Lord imputeth not iniquity Ps 32:2;2 Cor 5:19

Now pay close attention when Paul quotes David here in Rom 4, here goes Rom 4:6-8


6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,


7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.



8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

,See that ? Even though Rom 4:6 isnt in the Ps 32 quote, nevertheless the Holy Spirit inspired Paul to write it here in Romans, when Paul goes back to David to quote Ps 32:1-2, showing therefore, that them blessed ones who dont have sin imputed to them, are forgiven as well as have Righteousness imputed them without works, without them doing anything,without any action from them whatsoever !

So the reconciled are righteous !

So, technically speaking, the world of 2 Cor 5:19 is a Righteous world !
 
JLB said:
Completely False!!!

We who are reconciled to God are no longer enemies, which is what reconcile means.

The way we are reconciled to God is through faith in Jesus Christ.

21 And you, who once were alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now He has reconciled 22 in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy, and blameless, and above reproach in His sight— 23 if indeed you continue in the faith, grounded and steadfast, and are not moved away from the hope of the gospel which you heard, which was preached to every creature under heaven, of which I, Paul, became a minister. Colossians 1:21-23

Those who are indeed reconciled to God, will continue to be reconciled if they continue in the faith that brought them into reconciliation.


JLB
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:amen
 
Now in order for those Christ died for too be reconciled to God BY HIS DEATH, while they are yet enemies Rom 5:10, there must have been an application of the cleansing blood to their account, while they were still in unbelief, because without the taking away of sin by the blood/death hof Christ, theres no reconciliation !

Remember, Jesus passed up into the heavens after He died and ascended as the High Priest of His People Heb 4:14

Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.

And as High Priest He performs the sprinkling of the blood, that is, He applies it to account of those sinnerd He died for. Isaiah writing of Christ as High Priest Isa 52:13-15

13 Behold, my servant shall deal prudently, he shall be exalted and extolled, and be very high.


14 As many were astonied at thee; his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men:


15 So shall he sprinkle many nations; the kings shall shut their mouths at him: for that which had not been told them shall they see; and that which they had not heard shall they consider.

Heb 12:24

And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

1 Pet 1:2

Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

Now those He died for, He put away their sin before God Heb 9:26

26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself [His death/blood].


So thats how those Christ died for are reconciled to God even as in themselves they are yet enemies/unbelievers !
 
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