BrotherTruth
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All God Books! I love Moses , I love Jesus, & I Love Muhammad all sent to us by the same God!
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The Torah, The Bible, & The Quran
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Moses gave us the Ten commandments, one of which says 'Do not lie ' that is a reflection of God's character, he does not lie.
You love Jesus who claimed to be the Son of God and who even the Quran claims he was special as unlike Mohammed, he did not die.
Jesus said that he was the only way to get to God, yet Islam would have us believe that Mohammad is the only way to God.
God does not lie. So one of these two is false.
We all have our biases so may I urge you to honestly compare the lives and teachings of Jesus and Mohammad to see who is from God.
Jesus is the Lord God Almighty.
The only begotten of the Father.
Do you confess Jesus as Lord.
Allah is not Lord.
Jesus Christ is Lord.
JLB
Allah is not the God of all creation, but only a god they serve. Muslims believe that the Quran was orally revealed by God to the final prophet Mohammed through the archangel Gabriel (Jibril) over a period of some 23 years beginning on Dec 22, 609 CE when Mohammed was forty years old and concluding in 632 the year of his death. They only believe Jesus was just another prophet as they do noy believe in the Deity or the desth and resurrection of Christ. Here are the differences between Mohammed and Jesus per the Quran Muslims use and the Holy Bible Christians us.
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Differences Between Muhammad and Jesus | |
Muhammad... | Jesus... |
Said Allah hates those who don't accept Islam. (Qur'an 30:4, 3:32, 22:38) | Said God loves everyone. (John 3:16) |
"I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah" (Muslim 1:33) | "He who lives by the sword will die by the sword." (Matthew 26:52) |
Stoned women for adultery. (Muslim 4206) | "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." (John 8:7) |
Permitted stealing from unbelievers. (Bukhari 44:668, Ibn Ishaq 764) | "Thou shalt not steal." (Matthew 19:18) |
Permitted lying. (Sahih Muslim 6303, Bukhari 49:857) | "Thou shalt not bear false witness." (Matthew 19:18) |
Owned and traded slaves. (Sahih Muslim 3901) | Neither owned nor traded slaves. |
Beheaded 800 Jewish men and boys. (Sahih Muslim 4390) | Beheaded no one. |
Murdered those who insulted him. (Bukhari 56:369, 4:241) | Preached forgiveness. (Matthew 18:21-22, 5:38) |
"If then anyone transgresses the prohibition against you, Transgress ye likewise against him" (Qur'an 2:194) | "If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also." (Matthew 5:39) |
Jihad in the way of Allah elevates one's position in Paradise by a hundred fold. (Muslim 4645) | "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called Sons of God" (Matthew 5:9) |
Married 13 wives and kept sex slaves. (Bukhari 5:268, Qur'an 33:50) | Was celibate. |
Slept with a 9-year-old child. (Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari 58:236) | Did not have sex with children. |
Ordered the murder of women. (Ibn Ishaq 819, 995) | Never harmed a woman. |
"O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness." (Qur'an 9:123) | "Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth." (Matthew 5:5) |
Ordered 65 military campaigns and raids in his last 10 years. (Ibn Ishaq ) | Ordered no military campaigns, nor offered any approval of war or violence. |
Killed captives taken in battle. (Ibn Ishaq 451) | Never took captives. Never killed anyone. |
Encouraged his men to rape enslaved women. (Abu Dawood 2150, Qur'an 4:24) | Never encouraged rape. Never enslaved women. |
Demanded captured slaves and a fifth of all other loot taken in war. (Qur'an 8:41) | "The Son of Man came not to be served, but to serve." (Matthew 20:28) |
Was never tortured, but tortured others. (Muslim 4131, Ibn Ishaq 436, 595, 734, 764) | Suffered torture, but never tortured anyone. |
"And fight them until there is no more persecution and religion is only for Allah" (Qur'an 8:39) | "Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you" (Matthew 5:44) |
Blessed the brutal murder of a half-blind man (al-Tabari 1440) | Healed a blind man (Mark 8:28) |
Ordered a slave to build the very pulpit from which he preached Islam. (Bukhari 47:743) | Washed his disciple’s feet. (John 13:5) |
What are the Greatest Commandments? "Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause" (Muslim 1:149) | What are the Greatest Commandments? "Love God and love thy neighbor as thyself." (Matthew 22:34-40) |
Demanded the protection of armed bodyguards, even in a house of worship (Qur'an 4:102) | Chastised anyone attempting to defend him with force. (John 18:10-12) |
Died fat and wealthy from what was taken from others in war or demanded from others in tribute. | Demanded nothing for himself Died without possessions. |
Advocated crucifying others. (Qur'an 5:33, Muslim 16:4131) | Was crucified himself. |
According to his followers: Had others give their lives for him. (Sahih Muslim 4413) | According to his followers: Gave his life for others. (John 18:11 and elsewhere) |
Not_Now.Soon
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That is my conclusion as well. God's word is long lasting and doesn't change. In my opinion God safeguards His words in the Torah and the Gospels. They are just as reliable today as they were when they were first written. Because the Quran contradicts the bible, it can't be from God also.
Corn Pop
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Why would God send Jesus as a messenger and the Gospel that the Quran says multiple times is the truth, and then purpously trick his followers into believing Jesus was crucified and allow his own word to be corrupted where the Quran says Allah's word can never be corrupted, and then some 6 centuries later bring a messenger called Mohammad to tell everyone. What would be the point of that.
The Quran says multiple times the Christian Gospel is the truth and word of Allah. Even ask the Christians for the Gospel Allah says.
The Quran says Jesus was not crucified. So the Christian Gospel Allah sent is Corrupt.
Nice contradiction.
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While the Bible came from God, it was inspired not dictated. There are a few wrinkles when it comes to cultural laws like wearing a veil.
My heart goes out to those who are confused and full of doubt about the truth of Christ. I was too because I was too much of an intellectual and the Holy Spirit had not yet told me the truth. I had a different experience. The Holy Spirit came to me in 1982 disguised as God or my Higher Power. She did not reveal herself as representing one aspect of God just like Jesus until 2015. I have know idea why God gave me a second change to surrender to the TRUTH. Jesus Christ was not just a prophet. His healings are proof of that to me. I was told this directly by the Holy Spirit in a vision. And no I am not mentally ill. I know who it was because I was transformed in so many different way. I was blind and after that I could see.
My heart goes out to those who are confused and full of doubt about the truth of Christ. I was too because I was too much of an intellectual and the Holy Spirit had not yet told me the truth. I had a different experience. The Holy Spirit came to me in 1982 disguised as God or my Higher Power. She did not reveal herself as representing one aspect of God just like Jesus until 2015. I have know idea why God gave me a second change to surrender to the TRUTH. Jesus Christ was not just a prophet. His healings are proof of that to me. I was told this directly by the Holy Spirit in a vision. And no I am not mentally ill. I know who it was because I was transformed in so many different way. I was blind and after that I could see.
Muhammad sent us nothing
Corn Pop
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Muhammad sent advice on how not to catch diseases. If a house fly falls into your coffee you apparently dunk the whole fly in the vessel as that will cure any disease.
Sahih Al-Bukhari: Volume 4, Book 54, Number 537
Classification: Sahih (Authentic)
Corn Pop
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In the quran it tells Christians to judge by the Gospel and if they do not they are disobedient to allah.
In the quran it also says allah sent Mohammad the Book in truth, confirming what was before it and he revealed the Torah and the Gospel.
Now if allah said in the 7th century the Christian Gospel is his word and to judge by it and he sent it, then the Gospel cannot have been corrupted before the 7th century.
According to the quran, in the 7th century the Gospel is the truth and the 7th century Gospel said Jesus was crucified and raised from the dead, and also according to the quran the Gospel is corrupt because Jesus was not crucified.
Nothing to do with the Apostle Paul or anyone in the first century corrupting anything. The Gospel was the truth according to the quran in the 7th century. It was well after the council of nicea hundreds of years.
Do you see the conflicting problem in a book claiming to be truth.
In the quran it also says allah sent Mohammad the Book in truth, confirming what was before it and he revealed the Torah and the Gospel.
Now if allah said in the 7th century the Christian Gospel is his word and to judge by it and he sent it, then the Gospel cannot have been corrupted before the 7th century.
According to the quran, in the 7th century the Gospel is the truth and the 7th century Gospel said Jesus was crucified and raised from the dead, and also according to the quran the Gospel is corrupt because Jesus was not crucified.
Nothing to do with the Apostle Paul or anyone in the first century corrupting anything. The Gospel was the truth according to the quran in the 7th century. It was well after the council of nicea hundreds of years.
Do you see the conflicting problem in a book claiming to be truth.
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Corn Pop
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Our Muslim friends allways ask where did Jesus say he is God and to worship him in the gospel, well he didn't say those exact words, but as a prophet of God he did not seem to stop or rebuke people worshipping him as God in the gospel, and a true prophet of God would never allow themselves to be worshipped as God.
He was also accused of placing himself equal with God.
He said before Abraham was I am, not sure how you explain that one if he's trying to say before Abraham was he was, yet he's living in the 1st century hundreds of years after Abraham.
He also calls himself the first and the last in revelation and only God is the first and the last.
Isaiah 44:6
Revelation 22:13
He also claimed all authority in heaven and earth is his.
Was he claiming to be God?. Judge for yourself.
He was also accused of placing himself equal with God.
He said before Abraham was I am, not sure how you explain that one if he's trying to say before Abraham was he was, yet he's living in the 1st century hundreds of years after Abraham.
He also calls himself the first and the last in revelation and only God is the first and the last.
Isaiah 44:6
Revelation 22:13
He also claimed all authority in heaven and earth is his.
Was he claiming to be God?. Judge for yourself.
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Prycejosh1987
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But Muhammad contradicts what scripture the bible proclaims. Its easy to say that a Muslim cannot go to a Christian heaven, but a Christian can enter a Muslim heaven. The Koran does not say the gospel is corrupt but Muslims say that. The Koran, confirms the preserved and authoritative scripture of the Torah and Inji.