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John the Baptist
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It would be impossible to see God saying that 'He does not change', and being the same 'yesterday, today and Forever' with an O.S.A.S. theology only in the N.T.? And there is 'Nothing New' He states???
The Holy Spirit was VERY ACTIVE from day one of Gen. 1 on!! The Purpose of the Holy Spirit [IS] to uplift Christ. Christ was ONLY present in the Old Testament while He was in Israel's presence. Cloud by day & pillar of fire by night. After Christ's death & return & acceptance by the GodHead, (remember-touch me not?) He SENT THE HOLY SPIRIT to make HIM everywhere present! He, the Holy Spirit, DID NOT TESTIFY [of] Himself.
[*STILL IT WAS ALWAYS TO BE CHRIST PUT INTO ONES HEART THAT WAS TO BE DONE BY THE HOLY SPIRIT!] What purpose do you see in the Holy Spirits STRIVING UPON MAN to accept CHRIST in Gen. 6:3 if MAN CANNOT YIELD AND LET CHRIST IN??? See Romans 8:1 & the SAVED ones again from these O.T. Born Again ones by faith of Hebrews 11:13!! And LED by CHRIST (which is EQUAL too & in UNITY with the Holy Spirit) in the Cloud & pillar of Fire, COMPARE Romans 8:14.
How was poor Nicodemus, and ALL OTHERS from Christ's past fold to be Born Again if it was not possible to be so??? Christ stated "THAT YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN"!!! All would have been DOOMED from Christ back, if that was not a possibility!! No, it could be done, and it was done, just in a more local way is all. Being Born Again RECREATES CHRIST INTO THE HEART! 2 Corinthians 3:3 The O.T. is FULL of such ones as this! King David was only one such person.
In the O.T. individuals were saved by being in the PRESENCE of Christ only. The END result was wanting for CHRIST to be placed INTO THE HEART BY THE HOLY SPIRIT! (or the Holy Ghost) Who is the greater????? CHRIST OR THE HOLY SPIRIT? Answer is folly! THEY ARE [GOD] as well as the one we CALL FATHER! [GODHEAD!]
So, the BOTTOM LINE as has been stated, is that as David for one was CONVERTED AND HAD THE LAW OF GOD WRITTEN IN HIS HEART, one on one, so were ALL of the saved in O.T. (Hebrews 11:13) And in the N.T. time God could now do this work omnipresent by the Holy Spirit. Remember again that this work of the Holy Spirit is to UPLIFT WHO CHRIST, & not Himself.
Also remember that satan was the prince of earth after Adam fell, and the Godhead worked with this handicap until Christ again bought back Adams failure. Read Matthew 4:8-9. This is what changed at Christ's FINISHED work!
Ask yourself: Did more miracles get done after Christ's departure than during His stay on earth, even in the O.T. church? OK: Now ask yourself if ANY OF THESE MIRACLES were more POWERFUL than those that Christ Himself did? The BLIND SEE! The Leper CURED? The LAME WALK? THE DEAD RAISED TO LIFE?
No. The Holy Spirit in Christ (AS CHRIST/GOD MAN) was only a little bit hampered because of mans sin, until Christ bought back Adams boundary line. (earth) See Christ's Words again now, of Matthew 4:9-10. This WAS TRUE, until Christ defeated satan at the cross! This is what Christ FINISHED!!
---John
PS: There seems to be some problems here? What happened to the color highlights?
The Holy Spirit was VERY ACTIVE from day one of Gen. 1 on!! The Purpose of the Holy Spirit [IS] to uplift Christ. Christ was ONLY present in the Old Testament while He was in Israel's presence. Cloud by day & pillar of fire by night. After Christ's death & return & acceptance by the GodHead, (remember-touch me not?) He SENT THE HOLY SPIRIT to make HIM everywhere present! He, the Holy Spirit, DID NOT TESTIFY [of] Himself.
[*STILL IT WAS ALWAYS TO BE CHRIST PUT INTO ONES HEART THAT WAS TO BE DONE BY THE HOLY SPIRIT!] What purpose do you see in the Holy Spirits STRIVING UPON MAN to accept CHRIST in Gen. 6:3 if MAN CANNOT YIELD AND LET CHRIST IN??? See Romans 8:1 & the SAVED ones again from these O.T. Born Again ones by faith of Hebrews 11:13!! And LED by CHRIST (which is EQUAL too & in UNITY with the Holy Spirit) in the Cloud & pillar of Fire, COMPARE Romans 8:14.
How was poor Nicodemus, and ALL OTHERS from Christ's past fold to be Born Again if it was not possible to be so??? Christ stated "THAT YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN"!!! All would have been DOOMED from Christ back, if that was not a possibility!! No, it could be done, and it was done, just in a more local way is all. Being Born Again RECREATES CHRIST INTO THE HEART! 2 Corinthians 3:3 The O.T. is FULL of such ones as this! King David was only one such person.
In the O.T. individuals were saved by being in the PRESENCE of Christ only. The END result was wanting for CHRIST to be placed INTO THE HEART BY THE HOLY SPIRIT! (or the Holy Ghost) Who is the greater????? CHRIST OR THE HOLY SPIRIT? Answer is folly! THEY ARE [GOD] as well as the one we CALL FATHER! [GODHEAD!]
So, the BOTTOM LINE as has been stated, is that as David for one was CONVERTED AND HAD THE LAW OF GOD WRITTEN IN HIS HEART, one on one, so were ALL of the saved in O.T. (Hebrews 11:13) And in the N.T. time God could now do this work omnipresent by the Holy Spirit. Remember again that this work of the Holy Spirit is to UPLIFT WHO CHRIST, & not Himself.
Also remember that satan was the prince of earth after Adam fell, and the Godhead worked with this handicap until Christ again bought back Adams failure. Read Matthew 4:8-9. This is what changed at Christ's FINISHED work!
Ask yourself: Did more miracles get done after Christ's departure than during His stay on earth, even in the O.T. church? OK: Now ask yourself if ANY OF THESE MIRACLES were more POWERFUL than those that Christ Himself did? The BLIND SEE! The Leper CURED? The LAME WALK? THE DEAD RAISED TO LIFE?
No. The Holy Spirit in Christ (AS CHRIST/GOD MAN) was only a little bit hampered because of mans sin, until Christ bought back Adams boundary line. (earth) See Christ's Words again now, of Matthew 4:9-10. This WAS TRUE, until Christ defeated satan at the cross! This is what Christ FINISHED!!
---John
PS: There seems to be some problems here? What happened to the color highlights?