To truly be saved we must be baptized of FIRE!

[Soma-Sight]

I have my own personal experience to tell on this but it will wait until we get this ball rolling.....

Explain away these verses....

Matthew 3:11
"I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me will come one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not fit to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire.

Luke 3:16
John answered them all, "I baptize you with water. But one more powerful than I will come, the thongs of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire.

Isaiah 4:4
The Lord will wash away the filth of the women of Zion; he will cleanse the bloodstains from Jerusalem by a spirit of judgment and a spirit of fire.
Isaiah 4:3-5 (in Context) Isaiah 4 (Whole Chapter)

1 Thessalonians 5:19
Do not put out the Spirit's fire;



The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare.[a]

 

[thessalonian]

I sure hope it's not literal. :o

 

[AVBunyan]

Explain away these verses....

Matthew 3:11
"I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me will come one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not fit to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire.

The fire in the above verse is wrath - the second coming - judgment - I don't want that - thank you - look at the next verse:

Mat 3:12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

And look at what the KJV says in I Thess. 5:19:
1 Th 5:19 Quench not the Spirit.

Fire is not even in the verse - and folks wonder why myself and others have such an issue with modern bible verssions from Alexandria? I mean if you don't like what you see then find one that agrees with you :-?

:o :o :o

 

[Soma-Sight]

The fire in the above verse is wrath - the second coming - judgment - I don't want that - thank you - look at the next verse:

Our God is a consuming fire....

We will all be cleansed by the power of the Fire thorugh the Holy Spirit....

Did you expect to get into Heaven with your fleshy mind and faults as they are currently?

Is voting conservatively and going to Church enough to get you into the pearly gates?

No!

Only a total "makeover" through the cleansing fire of God will make one able to stand in His presence.

This is about more than a simple dip in earthly water.....

 

[Julian Pyke]

If you are saved, you are already baptised with the Holy Spirit and fire. Your SPIRIT is what goes to ehaven, not body, soul, your spirit. Jesus died on the cross for US. That is all we ened, to accept HIM.

 

[AVBunyan]

The fire in the above verse is wrath - the second coming - judgment - I don't want that - thank you - look at the next verse:

But the fire here is judgement - will you acknowledge this?

 

[PDoug]

I have my own personal experience to tell on this but it will wait until we get this ball rolling.....

Explain away these verses....

Matthew 3:11
"I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me will come one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not fit to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire.

Luke 3:16
John answered them all, "I baptize you with water. But one more powerful than I will come, the thongs of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire.

Isaiah 4:4
The Lord will wash away the filth of the women of Zion; he will cleanse the bloodstains from Jerusalem by a spirit of judgment and a spirit of fire.
Isaiah 4:3-5 (in Context) Isaiah 4 (Whole Chapter)

1 Thessalonians 5:19
Do not put out the Spirit's fire;



The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare.[a]

Angels are made from a special kind of fire (Hebrews 1:7). The scriptures you quoted actually mean that when someone is saved via faith, that person is assigned and inhabited by an angel - and a very high level one at that:

Matthew 18

10 "See that you do not look down on one of these little ones. For I tell you that their angels in heaven always see the face of my Father in heaven.

Further, certain (non-biblical) scriptures indicate that these angels are divine. They are sometimes referred to as God's 'Holy Ones'. It is these angels who cause a person to display the many qualities of God, and who are / represent the Holy Spirit, Christ, the Father, and everyone else belonging to the union of God in a person. It is important to realize that the Gods in the kingdom of God are composite beings. Gods (such as Christ) are clothed in garments (or bodies) which are angels, and are given abilities (e.g. intelligence) by the Father via angels.

 

[santamarana]

The fire in the above verse is wrath - the second coming - judgment - I don't want that - thank you - look at the next verse:

Our God is a consuming fire....

We will all be cleansed by the power of the Fire thorugh the Holy Spirit....

Did you expect to get into Heaven with your fleshy mind and faults as they are currently?

Is voting conservatively and going to Church enough to get you into the pearly gates?

No!

Only a total "makeover" through the cleansing fire of God will make one able to stand in His presence.

This is about more than a simple dip in earthly water.....

I wouldn't even bother with these guys. God has not given them eyes to see nor ears to hear the truth.

They only see the outward form of the letter (The Bible). Much Like the people only seen the "Corruption" of the flesh of Christ (The Outward) and killed him for it instead of the incorruption of the spirit (The Inward) the reality. Comparing spiritual things with spiritual things.

The "WORDS" that I speak to you they are spirit, they are life.

If they do not bring fourth what is within themselves, what they do not bring fourth will destroy them.

Amen.

1st Tim 2:4