Two Questions...

[Edward]

I have two questions which have been in the back of my mind for awhile now....
#1...Scripture says that teachers will be judged more strictly than others, right? And also that whoever teaches people wrongly and causes a stumbling block to them...woe unto them, right? (better that a mill stone was hanged around their neck and them cast into the sea, I think it says?)

But scripture also says, to everyone!...Go into the world and proclaim to all the gospel and good news of Christ...

So how is that not teaching? Are we not all teachers of a sort, at least?! What's the difference? Where is the dividing line on this?
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#2...this question is about the rapture, but not to debate whether the rapture will happen, please keep that in mind in your responses.

There are 3 (?) views on the rapture...pre-trib, Mid-trib, and Post-trib...right?

It seems like most people believe that the tribulation period is 7 years. But scripture is clear on that. The tribulation period is 3 1/2 years. So doesn't that throw a monkey wrench into the whole, pre, mid, and post trib lines of thought?

My understanding is that, pre-trib is at the beginning of a 7 year period. Mid-trib is before it gets very very bad, and post-trib is after it is finished...the day of the Lord etc..

It's almost like, a Mid-trib view is actually a Pre-trib reality with Post-trib staying the same, and not really a lot of room left for a real Mid-trib rapture...at least in our traditional thinking of this.

So what about this? What do you think?

Scripture is very clear. The tribulation period is 3.5 years, not 7!
(If you believe in a 7 year trib, then please refrain from answering, agreed? Thank you...)

 

[Nathan12]

So how is that not teaching? Are we not all teachers of a sort, at least?! What's the difference? Where is the dividing line on this?

The Gospel is the proclamation to all that Christ died for their sins (according to the Scriptures), and rose again for their justification (according to the Scriptures) (1 Cor 15:1-4). And that God has made Jesus both Lord and Christ (Acts 2:36). So the preaching of the Gospel boils down to announcing to the world that all are to repent and be converted, since they will be facing divine judgment (Acts 17:30,31).

On the other hand, teaching involves everything else that consists of Bible doctrine -- the apostles' doctrine (Acts 2:42).

 

[Truthfrees]

I have two questions which have been in the back of my mind for awhile now....
#1...Scripture says that teachers will be judged more strictly than others, right? And also that whoever teaches people wrongly and causes a stumbling block to them...woe unto them, right? (better that a mill stone was hanged around their neck and them cast into the sea, I think it says?)

But scripture also says, to everyone!...Go into the world and proclaim to all the gospel and good news of Christ...

So how is that not teaching? Are we not all teachers of a sort, at least?! What's the difference? Where is the dividing line on this?

imo teaching that draws people close to God is good news

bad news teaching makes people turn away from God - condemnation - anything that puts heavy burdens on people and causes them to think God can't/doesn't love them

 

[for_his_glory]

We are all to share in the good news of the Gospel of God's grace through that of what we witness and testify of Jesus as we speak with others.

Teaching the word of God is a special calling from Him as a Spiritual gift and is not for everyone, 1 Corinthians 12:28.

James 3:1 My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation. 2 For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body.

John 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. 50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.

Matthew 10:20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.

What we teach others comes by God alone as He gives us the words to speak. We do stand in a greater judgement for the words that come out of our mouth as we teach others and it's the words we speak that will be judged by God. The Pharisees are the greatest examples of what a teacher should not be.

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I believe, if I have to label it, in a post trib catching up of the saints of God being on the last day when Christ returns, Matthew 24:29-31; John 5:28,29, John 6:40; 1 Corinthians 15:51, 52; 1 Thessalonians 4:16, 17.

God speaks to us in scripture of a 3 1/2 year tribulation during the time of the seven trumpets, not a seven year tribulation, as being time, times and half time which equals 1260 days = 3 ½ years or 3 ½ Times – Hebrew calendar only had 30 days for each month and this is where you get 1260 days or 3 ½ years.
[Scripture reference]
Revelation 12:14; Daniel 7:25; Daniel 12:7
1260 days – Revelation 11:3; Revelation 12:6
42 months – Revelation 11:2; Revelation 13:5

Tribulation has never been divided in sections and no where in scripture does it define any seven years as scripture say we will always have tribulations, Deut 4:30; 7:19; 29:1-6; 1Samuel 26:24; Matthew; John 16:33; Romans 12:12; 24:21; James 1:2; 1Peter 1:6.

 

[Corn Pop]

Its only those who willfully teach.

 

[Michael74]

Are we not all teachers of a sort, at least?! What's the difference? Where is the dividing line on this?

Death and life are in the power of the tongue,
And those who love it will eat its fruit. Proverbs 18:21 NKJV

Everyone witnesses to friends, relatives, coworker, etc... Not everyone stands in front of the church to preach a sermon, in a stadium to preach a revival, or on radio/tv to preach to millions. Those who are called to preach to multitudes should have the maturity to bridle their tongues.

For we all stumble in many things. If anyone does not stumble in word, he is a perfect man, able also to bridle the whole body. James 3:2 NKJV

Teachers should have the spiritual maturity to treat others with agape:

Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by good conduct that his works are done in the meekness of wisdom. James 3:13 NKJV

Teachers should teach what the Lord tells them to teach, in love.

...but, speaking the truth in love... Ephesians 4:15a NKJV

 

[Michael74]

I think this is related to the qualifications for bishop, or other church leader.

This is a faithful saying: If a man desires the position of a bishop, he desires a good work. A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach; not given to wine, not violent, not greedy for money, but gentle, not quarrelsome, not covetous; one who rules his own house well, having his children in submission with all reverence (for if a man does not know how to rule his own house, how will he take care of the church of God?); not a novice, lest being puffed up with pride he fall into the same condemnation as the devil. Moreover he must have a good testimony among those who are outside, lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil. 1 Timothy 3:1-7 NKJV

Teaching is a calling. Just like apostles, prophets, evangelists, and pastors.

And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, Ephesians 4:11 NKJV

Everybody evangelizes their friends, but some people are called to to the office of evangelism. Their calling goes beyond simply witnessing to their friends. They devote full time service to their calling. Except for maybe for tent making like Paul did. Similar for those called to be teachers.

 

[Corn Pop]

Many false teachers.

 

[Corn Pop]

There are many false teachers. It's just normal these days.

 

[Corn Pop]

I forgot the two questions.

 

[dianegcook]

I have two questions which have been in the back of my mind for awhile now....
#1...Scripture says that teachers will be judged more strictly than others, right? And also that whoever teaches people wrongly and causes a stumbling block to them...woe unto them, right? (better that a mill stone was hanged around their neck and them cast into the sea, I think it says?)

But scripture also says, to everyone!...Go into the world and proclaim to all the gospel and good news of Christ...

So how is that not teaching? Are we not all teachers of a sort, at least?! What's the difference? Where is the dividing line on this?
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#2...this question is about the rapture, but not to debate whether the rapture will happen, please keep that in mind in your responses.

There are 3 (?) views on the rapture...pre-trib, Mid-trib, and Post-trib...right?

It seems like most people believe that the tribulation period is 7 years. But scripture is clear on that. The tribulation period is 3 1/2 years. So doesn't that throw a monkey wrench into the whole, pre, mid, and post trib lines of thought?

My understanding is that, pre-trib is at the beginning of a 7 year period. Mid-trib is before it gets very very bad, and post-trib is after it is finished...the day of the Lord etc..

It's almost like, a Mid-trib view is actually a Pre-trib reality with Post-trib staying the same, and not really a lot of room left for a real Mid-trib rapture...at least in our traditional thinking of this.

So what about this? What do you think?

Scripture is very clear. The tribulation period is 3.5 years, not 7!
(If you believe in a 7 year trib, then please refrain from answering, agreed? Thank you...)

1.
The good news = What Christ did for us , John 3:16

2. God had shortened the time, Matt.24:22, Mark 13:20, Rev 12:12
Not to disregard the 3 1/2 years, but I believe the tribulation period had been shortened to 5 months.
Why I believe this?
Rev.9:5,10

 

[JohnDB]

Ok teaching vx the great commission...

The man at Gadarenes who spent his life being crazy...(right after feeding 5000 and just before pigs) He wanted to go with Jesus...but Jesus told him something else to do. "Tell how much God has done for you".

The Jewish servant girl in Aram...she had been taken as a slave. She told Naaman that the prophet Elisha in Israel could heal him of his leprosy...

So...what is apparently clear is that you can tell what God has done for you personally...and possibly what God can do for others.

It doesn't have to be a fantastic story like a David Wilkerson...or a Joyce Meyers...but it has to be genuine. Because it's what you really do know beyond any theology you think you understand.

And as far as the 3 ½ vx 7 year tribulation...
That's not what was said or intended. What exactly was said? Those precise words have a particular reason and meaning. "A time, two times, and half a time" is a direct reference to God's love for us. It's not a reference to exact calendar dating on a solar calendar...it's a liturgical reference to exile during the diaspora meaning several things in a very short expression...the chief being how God loves and misses us being together with Him tabernacling together.