UFO Disclosure

[JonMJ33]

It has been a long time since I have been on a forum discussing topics like this, and I am wondering what peoples opinions are with respect to the UFO phenomenon? I suppose I will also start this discussion with the following:
In the spring of 2013, 40 witnesses from around the world including Apollo 14 Astronaut Edgar Mitchell, former Canadian Defense Minister Paul Hellyer along with military personnel, intelligence personnel, defense contractors, government officials, physicists, historians, lawyers and researchers who testified before former members of the Senate and Congress about the reality of the UFO phenomenon.

Here is the trailer for the "Citizen Hearing On Disclosure."

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[Edward]

Good question brother. My opinion is that, there are no such thing as aliens from distant planets. That they are really the demons and evil spirits spoken of in the bible and that they do not come from other galaxies and planets, but rather other dimensions. Think about it, they never seem to see the UFO's "out there" in space but only around the earth and moon. Many times, the UFO's are seen to disappear, that is them blinking out to an alternate dimension.

In the bible, demons are always seeking habitation of mens bodies (and were cast out a lot) and they continue to seek embodiment...so THAT is why we hear about aliens always playing with peoples reproductive systems, and the cattle mutilations and so forth. They're genetically producing bodies for the demons to inhabit. When they were kicked out of heaven, they took 1/3 of the angels with them. They're outnumbered already.

From what I understand from reading the book of Enoch, the demons in the world and evil spirits all came from the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim, who were killed in the flood of Noah and their disembodied spirits were doomed to wander the earth (seeking embodiment). They seek to increase their numbers because a war is coming that is spoken of in scripture.

That they are perpetrating a lie in which they explain away God as just aliens seeding our world, and sounds so plausible to explain Darwinism that many will be deceived of this lie. We are to test all spirits and see if they will confess that Jesus came in the flesh, was crucified and buried and rose again on the third day. They wont. Prolly why you don't hear about Christians being abducted, lol.

That's what I think.

 

[Eugene]

Is the music on the video supplied by aliens? Maybe Yeti? The following report uses similar intriguing music.

 

[JLB]

Good question brother. My opinion is that, there are no such thing as aliens from distant planets. That they are really the demons and evil spirits spoken of in the bible and that they do not come from other galaxies and planets, but rather other dimensions. Think about it, they never seem to see the UFO's "out there" in space but only around the earth and moon. Many times, the UFO's are seen to disappear, that is them blinking out to an alternate dimension.

In the bible, demons are always seeking habitation of mens bodies (and were cast out a lot) and they continue to seek embodiment...so THAT is why we hear about aliens always playing with peoples reproductive systems, and the cattle mutilations and so forth. They're genetically producing bodies for the demons to inhabit. When they were kicked out of heaven, they took 1/3 of the angels with them. They're outnumbered already.

From what I understand from reading the book of Enoch, the demons in the world and evil spirits all came from the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim, who were killed in the flood of Noah and their disembodied spirits were doomed to wander the earth (seeking embodiment). They seek to increase their numbers because a war is coming that is spoken of in scripture.

That they are perpetrating a lie in which they explain away God as just aliens seeding our world, and sounds so plausible to explain Darwinism that many will be deceived of this lie. We are to test all spirits and see if they will confess that Jesus came in the flesh, was crucified and buried and rose again on the third day. They wont. Prolly why you don't hear about Christians being abducted, lol.

That's what I think.

Great explanation Edward.

There is a generation of young people who need to know the truth of these things as the enemy seeks to exploit our ignorance and continues to hide and deceive the multitudes.

JLB

 

[tim-from-pa]

From what I read, I am in agreement with Edward on this. It's what I call the "Genesis 6 incident" with the sons of God (angels) taking human wives and producing the hybrid Nephilim. The demonic component (as the spiritual component comes from the father, and the physical from the mother) seemed to have lived on after physical death since angels have spiritual existences (unlike a human that "sleeps" until the resurrection, the Nephilim will not be raised again not being properly human but demonic). These entities produce what I believe are the paranormal events such as aliens, ghosts, poltergeists, strange beasts such as big foot and whatnot. Keep in mind that this genetic experiment occurred with animals as well shown in legends of hybrid animals and titan myth stories. Ancient Roman and Greek legend is replete with the gods coming down and taking on human wives and producing such large offspring. In our hi-tech age we call them aliens, and those supposed grays I believe could very well be partly human and a continuing trend of these Nephilim. Much like the intermarrying incident of Genesis 6, notice that aliens seem obsessed with doing "reproductive experiments" according to various accounts. Even in ancient folklore there's stories that involve incubus and succubus demons.

What we call aliens as I already mentioned could very well be human hybrids physically, and perhaps some "UFO's" could be technology taught and perpetuated by the sons of God, since the book of Enoch mentions they taught man various skills. The star system Zeta Reticuli are solar analogues that they supposedly come from and live at. There's even stars more closely related in type to the sun. The star 18 Scorpii, for example, is a solar twin only 2% more the mass, and 1% more the diameter and 6% more brightness than the sun (which that amount of difference from our own sun is the same from the extremes of our orbit). It is about a 4B year old G2 Va yellow, single star like our sun. If God mysteriously blinked out the sun and replaced it with 18Scorpii, we'd probably would not notice the difference, except subtle stuff in the lighting perhaps. There's plenty of sun-like stars in our own stellar neighborhood, with distances under a lifetime in light-years. It makes one wonder.

 

[Ph8th]

I like the last statement on the video
IF it is out there
IF it is real
we have a right to know

 

[Brother Mike]

Good question brother. My opinion is that, there are no such thing as aliens from distant planets. That they are really the demons and evil spirits spoken of in the bible and that they do not come from other galaxies and planets, but rather other dimensions. Think about it, they never seem to see the UFO's "out there" in space but only around the earth and moon. Many times, the UFO's are seen to disappear, that is them blinking out to an alternate dimension.
That's what I think.

The book of enoch? Really?

This is a clear cut case of what happens to people who believe what is on the internet. The U.S has already released all known files concerning the matter.

Here we have NASA picking up a Alien signal from outer space in binary.
http://www.aol.co.uk/2014/03/31/nasa-detect-intelligent-alien-signal/

01101110 01100001 01101110 01101111 01101111 00100000 01101110 01100001 01101110 01101111 01101111 00101100 00100000 01000001 01110000 01110010 01101001 01101100 00100000 01100110 01101111 01101111 01101100 01110011 00100001 00001010

Angels can't mate with humans as each seed only produces after it's own kind, and Angels are spirits, not flesh and blood, no rocket science there. The Government does not have hidden files, and all the reports about NASA getting messages are hoaxes.

No wonder though that devils show up as angel's of light, or do things to fool people. Then the fact photoshop and video editing software can do amazing things with making us believe in UFO's.

 

[jasonc]

The book of enoch? Really?

This is a clear cut case of what happens to people who believe what is on the internet. The U.S has already released all known files concerning the matter.

Here we have NASA picking up a Alien signal from outer space in binary.
http://www.aol.co.uk/2014/03/31/nasa-detect-intelligent-alien-signal/

01101110 01100001 01101110 01101111 01101111 00100000 01101110 01100001 01101110 01101111 01101111 00101100 00100000 01000001 01110000 01110010 01101001 01101100 00100000 01100110 01101111 01101111 01101100 01110011 00100001 00001010

Angels can't mate with humans as each seed only produces after it's own kind, and Angels are spirits, not flesh and blood, no rocket science there. The Government does not have hidden files, and all the reports about NASA getting messages are hoaxes.

No wonder though that devils show up as angel's of light, or do things to fool people. Then the fact photoshop and video editing software can do amazing things with making us believe in UFO's.

lol.

 

[jasonc]

if its on the internet it must be true.

 

[Sinthesis]

People believe what they want to believe.

 

[Brother Mike]

if its on the internet it must be true.

Of course it's true, Wife comes to get me and show me things on facebook that must be true, because her "friends" posted it. Come to find out, half the folks they said died, are still kicking.
We get all these Youtube video's with just amazing information, but why are CBS, NBC, FOX, CNN, ABC, silent on such amazing information? People will tell you that the main news media covers things up. Sure they do, they all are in bed together not reporting the story that could put the most viewers to watch their network. They all suddenly hate money when it comes to cover ups.
At worse, they report a Real story, and put their own political spin on it, at worse.

Unfortunately, Christians are the most gullible at about believing anything.

The US and other countries have already declassified all the UFO information they have. They are in the dark like everyone else.

You can copy and paste the code to find out what NASA heard from sub-space here.
http://www.roubaixinteractive.com/PlayGround/Binary_Conversion/Binary_To_Text.asp
01101110 01100001 01101110 01101111 01101111 00100000 01101110 01100001 01101110 01101111 01101111 00101100 00100000 01000001 01110000 01110010 01101001 01101100 00100000 01100110 01101111 01101111 01101100 01110011 00100001 00001010


Mike.

 

[jasonc]

01101110 01100001 01101110 01101111 01101111 00100000 01101110 01100001 01101110 01101111 01101111 00101100 00100000 01000001 01110000 01110010 01101001 01101100 00100000 01100110 01101111 01101111 01101100 01110011 00100001 00001010

lol. nano,nano , april fools. I know. I don't think they exist either but the bible is silent about that. personally I have better things to worry about

 

[reba]

every man made thing that flies over my head is a ufo... i cant identify any of 'em

 

[JonMJ33]

Good question brother. My opinion is that, there are no such thing as aliens from distant planets. That they are really the demons and evil spirits spoken of in the bible and that they do not come from other galaxies and planets, but rather other dimensions. Think about it, they never seem to see the UFO's "out there" in space but only around the earth and moon. Many times, the UFO's are seen to disappear, that is them blinking out to an alternate dimension.

In the bible, demons are always seeking habitation of mens bodies (and were cast out a lot) and they continue to seek embodiment...so THAT is why we hear about aliens always playing with peoples reproductive systems, and the cattle mutilations and so forth. They're genetically producing bodies for the demons to inhabit. When they were kicked out of heaven, they took 1/3 of the angels with them. They're outnumbered already.

From what I understand from reading the book of Enoch, the demons in the world and evil spirits all came from the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim, who were killed in the flood of Noah and their disembodied spirits were doomed to wander the earth (seeking embodiment). They seek to increase their numbers because a war is coming that is spoken of in scripture.

That they are perpetrating a lie in which they explain away God as just aliens seeding our world, and sounds so plausible to explain Darwinism that many will be deceived of this lie. We are to test all spirits and see if they will confess that Jesus came in the flesh, was crucified and buried and rose again on the third day. They wont. Prolly why you don't hear about Christians being abducted, lol.

That's what I think.

Actually a lot of what you said I don't have to much of a problem with. I think that the angels and demons of old are the same as the ET's that are spoken of today.

 

[JonMJ33]

Is the music on the video supplied by aliens? Maybe Yeti? The following report uses similar intriguing music.

So do you have anything relevant to say?

 

[JonMJ33]

There's plenty of sun-like stars in our own stellar neighborhood, with distances under a lifetime in light-years. It makes one wonder.

Yes it certainly does make one wonder. Especially if FTL travel is no longer an issue.

 

[JonMJ33]

This is a clear cut case of what happens to people who believe what is on the internet.

Whether it is on the internet or not is irrelevant, what matters is the information being presented.

The U.S has already released all known files concerning the matter.

Really? Where did you get that idea? It is pretty much common knowledge that they have not done so. Many other countries have released their files concerning UFOs, however I have never heard of the US releasing their files?

The Government does not have hidden files,

LOL that is hilarious! Just try and get your hands on classified documents, guess what you can't!

and all the reports about NASA getting messages are hoaxes.

I dont doubt that they are. I never said that the messages NASA supposedly gets are real. If NASA got a real message, it would be likely that they would not release it to the public anyways.

Then the fact photoshop and video editing software can do amazing things with making us believe in UFO's.

I take pictures and videos of UFOs with a grain of salt. Unless the picture or video has been through some kind of significant professional analysis.

 

[JonMJ33]

People believe what they want to believe.

I don't want to believe anything except the truth. I have zero problems being wrong. In fact I make it a point to figure out what is wrong with what I believe. I like it when I find that I am wrong about something, because it means I am one step closer to truth. Do you have anything worthwhile to contribute to the conversation?

 

[JonMJ33]

We get all these Youtube video's with just amazing information, but why are CBS, NBC, FOX, CNN, ABC, silent on such amazing information? People will tell you that the main news media covers things up. Sure they do, they all are in bed together not reporting the story that could put the most viewers to watch their network. They all suddenly hate money when it comes to cover ups.
At worse, they report a Real story, and put their own political spin on it, at worse.

They don't need to be apart of a cover up per se. Anyone who takes the UFO subject seriously gets scorned and ridiculed, and as such serves as reason enough to not report on the issue for fear of losing their job. However, they are at times reported on the main stream news. Larry King has had several airings with the prime story being the UFO phenomenon. Also, consider the Chicago O'Hare Airport sighting:

The Chicago O'Hare airport UFO story was picked up by various major mainstream media groups such as CNN,CBS, MSNBC, Fox News, The Chicago Tribune, and NPR. -2006 O'Hare International Airport UFO sighting/Wikipedia

Unfortunately, Christians are the most gullible at about believing anything.

For the record, I was a Christian for 25 years, then agnostic then hard core militant atheist. Now I am not really sure what I am. I know I don't like labels, and am much more open to things after all that I have learned thus far.

The US and other countries have already declassified all the UFO information they have. They are in the dark like everyone else.

Really? Are you sure about that? Not to mention, it seems as though you are assuming that everyone in the government knows what everyone else in the government knows? This is absolutely not the case!!
Consider this excerpt from the Washington Post's two year investigative report called "Top Secret America:"

One military officer involved in one such program (SAP Special Access Program) said he was ordered to sign a document prohibiting him from disclosing it to his four star commander, with whom he worked closely with every day, because the commander was not authorized to know about it. Another senior defense official recalls the day he tried to find out about a program in his budget, only to be rebuffed by a peer. "What do you mean you can't tell me? I pay for the program," he recalled saying in a heated exchange.-Top Secret America: A Hidden World, Growing Beyond Control/Washington Post

Its called compartmentalization. I was in the Army Reserve for 8 years and experienced just a fragment of what compartmentalization is truly capable of! It is a powerful tool!!!

 

[JonMJ33]

personally I have better things to worry about

If the UFO phenomenon is true, as I suspect it is, then the ramifications of it are Earth shaking! Its not just a matter of whether they exist or not. It changes everything! Science, history, politics, religion(unless your Catholic, cause the Pope has a favorable view of aliens. Indeed he said he would baptize them) economics and finance etc.