Violence against women

[Christ_empowered]

I read somewhere that violence against women is a result of: (relatively) low status of women and men trying to assert their dominance. The feminists, of course, focus on the patriarchy and such, and there is something to that. I mean, in a Christian marriage, Christ is the real head of the unit and then the husband is the leader. No big deal, certainly doesn't (I think) lead to violence, but...

...even now, the secular culture wants men to be smarter, make more money, be in control, etc. Factor in personal stuff, like mental issues, drug and alcohol abuse, personal insecurities, relationship issues, jealousy, plus secular cultural stuff, and you have...Trouble (note the capital T). Low status of women works on a number of levels. It makes "gettin' uppity" dangerous and effectively silences them, since low status people really don't matter. Lack of financial resouraces helps keep abusive marriages together because, where do you go? Where do the kids go?

So...yeah. "The personal is political." I don't think you can look at violence against women and condemn it (which we should, obviously) without putting things into proper context. Of course, from a Christian perspective, this is one more way Satan ruins peoples' lives, one more way sin has marred humanity.

 

[for_his_glory]

Insecurities, influences, drug and alcohol are the main factors for abuse. It was only when my last husband abused alcohol and drugs was when I got beat up for no reason at all as it would just come out of the blue. Every time he cheated on me (I never cheated on him) I would get beat up because he would make it out that I cheated on him. You could actually see his facial features change as one moment he was normal and loving and the next minute you could see Satan's power working in him. He would never hit me in the face, but only on parts of me that I could cover up in public. They call it black outs when one drinks to much as they never remember what they have done. My now ex would sit and cry like a baby when he sobered up to see what he had done to me, but yet refused to get any help.

 

[Christ_empowered]

That's horrifying. And all too common.

 

[Pizza]

My dad always cheated so I thought this was normal stuff

Makes sense. As I have indicated before, my dad never 'taught' me or told me how to treat women.
Instead, he modeled it. He was always taking me into neighborhood bars as a kid, when the other men started to talk "about their old lady", he would get uncomfortable and we'd leave.
He was known in his circle of friends as a man you did not engage in conversation about his wife - he simply would not respond to any of that. That is something I carry with me to this day.

 

[Pizza]

satan, porn is connected to this

Satan, yes. But I'm not sure porn is connected to violence against women. I have a long history of porn involvement, and I would NEVER harm a women physically nor would I harm a women emotionally in any intentional way.

 

[for_his_glory]

My dad was a very abusive, mean, angry man with a short fuse. He never went after my mother, thank God, but in turn went off on all eight of us kids, but never seriously hurting any of us. My three brothers are the most loving caring people you would ever want to meet, but my one brother can display that short fuse, but never violently. It wasn't until my dad got much older before he died and we had all moved out that he mellowed out.

 

[jasonc]

Satan, yes. But I'm not sure porn is connected to violence against women. I have a long history of porn involvement, and I would NEVER harm a women physically nor would I harm a women emotionally in any intentional way.

porn,uhm yes, its connected to sex slavery. google former porn star shelly lubben. they do a lot of good there and well its graphic. she was choked and raped.

 

[Pizza]

What I was getting at was that porn never made me violent toward women.

Now, the fact that the porn industry treats women worse than a hunter treats his dogs.... I would NEVER disagree there!

 

[jasonc]

What I was getting at was that porn never made me violent toward women.

Now, the fact that the porn industry treats women worse than a hunter treats his dogs.... I would NEVER disagree there!

ok, I know that but there is also a reason that porn and pedophiles on probation is bad juju.

 

[Pizza]

Pedophiles on probation sounds like trouble to me! ;)

 

[evenifigoalone]

Satan, yes. But I'm not sure porn is connected to violence against women. I have a long history of porn involvement, and I would NEVER harm a women physically nor would I harm a women emotionally in any intentional way.

Not strictly, no. But I would say that there is porn that is definitely geared toward men who think of women only as objects.

 

[jasonc]

Pedophiles on probation sounds like trouble to me! ;)

they don't always serve their full sentence or they do and have a few years of probation. but well I wont go into the ten years sentence of monica's ex that is in prison for possession of child porn.. nor that I know a man in prison that I served with for the same crime. he was also going to meet with a 14 year old! he got stung by the po-po for that. I cant find in my heart to feel much of any sorrow for these. its not Christ like but well with monica Nathan was at stake and the other was sick..

 

[jasonc]

Not strictly, no. But I would say that there is porn that is definitely geared toward men who think of women only as objects.

society in general does that.

 

[evenifigoalone]

society in general does that.

True.
I suppose that's one of the root problems...or a reflection of the problem...maybe both.

 

[jasonc]

True.
I suppose that's one of the root problems...or a reflection of the problem...maybe both.

almost needs a thread of its own.

 

[Gary]

Pedophiles on probation sounds like trouble to me! ;)

Sounds like a really bad movie title.

 

[jasonc]

Sounds like a really bad movie title.

bah, reality show on tru tv.

 

[Gary]

bah, reality show on tru tv.

That too or one of those hidden camera sting operations that NBC likes to do.

 

[jasonc]

That too or one of those hidden camera sting operations that NBC likes to do.

that is how my fellow soldier was caught, the irony with him is that many of his cell guards are or were in his old unit.

 

[Kathi]

they do try these cases. 1/3 of the rapes in the military are male victim.

I assume there are more in prison.