Well, what do you think?

[miamited]

MSN

Is God's word truthful in all that it tells us?

 

[Hopeful 2]

MSN

Is God's word truthful in all that it tells us?

I believe it is.
Scholars, on the other hand, seem to be of the "flesh".

 

[tdidymas]

MSN

Is God's word truthful in all that it tells us?

We can be certain about what it teaches us about God and the nature of our relationship with Him, which is the important part concerning us personally.

So when "scholars" say "probably not..." I think we can safely say that we would rather believe what the Bible says, than take scholars' opinions as fact. Just because some scholar claims a contradiction, it doesn't mean they are authoritative. After all, Jesus was born more than 2000 years ago. What can they possibly know about that?

If there are any apparent contradictions in the Bible concerning minor things like details of situations, number of people, and such, how could that possibly destroy our faith in God, if we know Him and have a personal relationship with Him? The Bible is literature, which includes poetry, songs, narratives, testimonies, symbolism, prophecies, and all kinds of writings, that when people search for inconsistencies, they find them, according to their assessment. But why should that affect our faith in the only true God and Jesus Christ whom He sent?

So then, it depends on what is meant by "all that it tells us." If that means every single statement in it the way those statements are interpreted in modern times, then I think it is setting us up for failure. If the ramification is that: if it fails the "test" then we can't trust any of it, then I think that it's putting God to the test. It depends on what "truthful" is meant - if it means by someone's particular standard, then that someone may find out in the end that one should not judge God or the word He has provided, as opposed to letting God's word judge us.

In that video, the idea that Jesus was not born in Bethlehem is based on one "scholar's" writing, and the statement "most scholars" is merely an assertion. The Bible is clear that Jesus was born in Bethlehem, so we should believe what the Bible says, not what some "scholar" reasons out in his fleshly mind.

 

[miamited]

To both I agree. And I have to tell you that I didn't watch the whole video. But you do have to wonder what it does for those who have no faith or weak faith. To think that biblical 'scholars' think to even question whether or not Jesus was born in Bethlehem just floors me. It's literally a prophecy of the old covenant writings. Neither of the accounts contained in the gospels speaks of Jesus being born in Nazereth.

Matthew 2:1 After Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, during the time of King Herod, Magi from the east came to Jerusalem...

Matthew 2:4-6 When he had called together all the people’s chief priests and teachers of the law, he asked them where the Messiah was to be born. “In Bethlehem in Judea,” they replied, “for this is what the prophet has written:
“ ‘But you, Bethlehem, in the land of Judah, are by no means least among the rulers of Judah; for out of you will come a ruler who will shepherd my people Israel.’ ”

I honestly can't understand why a born again scholar would even question the fact. Why would the Scriptures repeat the point several times and confirm it through testimony, and it isn't true? What born again scholar would even think to question such a thing. How in the world would anyone disprove it. Did they find a floppy disk with Jesus' birth certificate? He was born in Nazareth General. I'm honestly flumoxed to the core that such an idea would even be considered, but here we are reading about it on news sites.

Is anyone else familiar with this 'religionforbreakfast' group?

 

[tdidymas]

To both I agree. And I have to tell you that I didn't watch the whole video. But you do have to wonder what it does for those who have no faith or weak faith. To think that biblical 'scholars' think to even question whether or not Jesus was born in Bethlehem just floors me. It's literally a prophecy of the old covenant writings. Neither of the accounts contained in the gospels speaks of Jesus being born in Nazereth.

Matthew 2:1 After Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, during the time of King Herod, Magi from the east came to Jerusalem...

Matthew 2:4-6 When he had called together all the people’s chief priests and teachers of the law, he asked them where the Messiah was to be born. “In Bethlehem in Judea,” they replied, “for this is what the prophet has written:
“ ‘But you, Bethlehem, in the land of Judah, are by no means least among the rulers of Judah; for out of you will come a ruler who will shepherd my people Israel.’ ”

I honestly can't understand why a born again scholar would even question the fact. Why would the Scriptures repeat the point several times and confirm it through testimony, and it isn't true? What born again scholar would even think to question such a thing. How in the world would anyone disprove it. Did they find a floppy disk with Jesus' birth certificate? He was born in Nazareth General. I'm honestly flumoxed to the core that such an idea would even be considered, but here we are reading about it on news sites.

Is anyone else familiar with this 'religionforbreakfast' group?

The wickedness of unbelief has infiltrated not only universities, but also seminaries. One professor at the U of S Carolina stated that his mission was to destroy students' faith. There are likely many of them. Just because someone is knowledgeable about the Bible and religion, doesn't make them knowledgeable about spiritual things, or even a Christian. When a Bible college accepts wiccan and lgbt clubs, they are long past apostate.

 

[for_his_glory]

Psalms 34:8 O taste and see that the LORD is good: blessed is the man that trusteth in him.

2Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Timothy 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

We either accept the full counsel of God, or we reject all the counsel. Each one of us have experienced Christ Jesus within our walk with Him. First seeing the marvelous works He has done in us and the way He speaks to our spirit. It's hard to explain, but it's one of those, you know that you know.

With a humbled heart we come before the Lord and when we ask for Him to be real to us, Jesus will reveal Himself. Not physically that we can see Him face to face, but will hear Him speak to us if we stay still long enough to hear Him speak.

Psalms 46:10 Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.

 

[KV-44-v1]

The Bible is fully trustworthy.