What do you think of this apologetic reasoning?

[Bruce Leiter]

I asked, "Does this mean that it is impossible to understand the Godhead?"

Bruce.Leiter responded, "Yes, live2blieve, it does mean that we can never fully understand him. He is a mystery beyond what the Bible says about him. After all, he is God; we're not."

So, the first statement is "Yes", i.e. it is impossible to understand the Godhead. Which is not what Paul said, i.e. that Godhead can be understood. I asked if it is possible to understand. I did not ask if we can understand fully or not.

live2blieve, there is a difference between FULLY understanding and PARTLY understanding it. We can only PARTLY understand God because our reasoning cannot logically think about his three-in-oneness. Yet, because the Bible, especially the Gospel of John, presents God as the Trinity, we need to submit our reasoning to the truth by humbling ourselves to his ways and teachings:

Isa 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the LORD.
Isa 55:9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.

 

[live2blieve]

live2blieve, there is a difference between FULLY understanding and PARTLY understanding it. We can only PARTLY understand God because our reasoning cannot logically think about his three-in-oneness. Yet, because the Bible, especially the Gospel of John, presents God as the Trinity, we need to submit our reasoning to the truth by humbling ourselves to his ways and teachings:

Isa 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the LORD.
Isa 55:9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.

For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. (1 Cor 2:11,12).

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

live2blieve, there is a difference between FULLY understanding and PARTLY understanding it. We can only PARTLY understand God because our reasoning cannot logically think about his three-in-oneness. Yet, because the Bible, especially the Gospel of John, presents God as the Trinity, we need to submit our reasoning to the truth by humbling ourselves to his ways and teachings:

Isa 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the LORD.
Isa 55:9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.

God the spirit is on earth, God the Father is in heaven, God the son is the intermediary between heaven and earth. The Holy Spirit is spirit, God is spirit (Jn. 4:24), only the Son is both flesh and spirit, no one comes to the Father except through the Son. What we fail to logically comprehend is this heavenly realm - what I call "spiritual realm" or "unseen realm" - beyond the materialistic time-space continuum.

"He (Jacob) dreamed, and behold, a ladder was set up on the earth, and its top reached to heaven; and there the angels of God were ascending and descending on it." (Gen. 28:12)
“Most assuredly, I say to you, hereafter you shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of Man.” (Jn. 1:51)

What most Christians don't understand is that there're many small g "gods" in the bible, there're not ancient people's vain imagination, but real heavenly hosts, sometimes known as the "divine council". The most accurate word for Elohim is not god, but "deities". There're these many "gods" (Ps. 82:1), many "sons of god" (Job 1:6), many spirits (Eph. 6:12), but there's only one YHWH, one messiah, and one holy spirit, who created all these other deities. The nature of the ten plagues in Egypt was YHWH's busting of these other deities whom the Egyptians worship, YHWH precisely hit their domains respectively with these plagues.

 

[KV-44-v1]

Jesus is God.