Well that is not absolute, what is immortal to us is not immortal to God, what is not subject to the first death may be subject to the second death.Immortal means not subject to death. If subject to death, not immortal.
Join For His Glory for a discussion on how
https://christianforums.net/threads/a-vessel-of-honor.110278/
https://christianforums.net/threads/psalm-70-1-save-me-o-god-lord-help-me-now.108509/
Join Sola Scriptura for a discussion on the subject
https://christianforums.net/threads/anointed-preaching-teaching.109331/#post-1912042
Strengthening families through biblical principles.
Focus on the Family addresses the use of biblical principles in parenting and marriage to strengthen the family.
Read daily articles from Focus on the Family in the Marriage and Parenting Resources forum.
Well that is not absolute, what is immortal to us is not immortal to God, what is not subject to the first death may be subject to the second death.Immortal means not subject to death. If subject to death, not immortal.
The word immortal has a different meaning to God?Well that is not absolute, what is immortal to us is not immortal to God, what is not subject to the first death may be subject to the second death.
I’m sure the sons of God in Gen 6 and Ps 82 refer to mortal men.Spirits are immortal in this world, can't be killed with any physical means, but not so in God's kingdom. Their fate was sealed long ago in Ps. 82:6-7. These are the same "sons of God" in Gen. 6:2 and Job 1:6, they are divine beings like God, and they are EVIL. They mustn't be conflated with us the adopted sons and daughters of God through Christ, you know. These are the minions who are with Satan, and they'll be cast into the Lake of Fire with Satan. Anybody who worships Satan is possessed by one of these spirits. Die "like" men indicates they were supposed to be immortal, but die they will in the end.
I said, “You are gods,
And all of you are children of the Most High.
But you shall die like men,
And fall like one of the princes.”
Since spirits can die this second death, they are not immortal to God, but as a matter of fact they are immortal to us. They can be restrained, but can't be killed. What is impossible to man is possible to God, that's what I meant.The word immortal has a different meaning to God?
I wouldn’t think so.
It is appointed for all man once to die. For him to die a second death, he must be raised from the dead and judged unfaithful. Into the fire with him.
I'm sure they're not, those are divine beings, aka angels, hosts of heaven. They don't die - UNITL God cast them into the Lake of Fire to die. These rebels will be judged. There's no place for them in New Jerusalem. If there were mortals, why would they die "like" men? Why not just die as men? And how come are they able to stand face to face before God (Job 1:6), since no man can see God's face and live (Ex. 33:20)?I’m sure the sons of God in Gen 6 and Ps 82 refer to mortal men.
God’s angels in heaven don’t die. That means they are immortal.
Both to God’s understanding and mine.
God didn't give his only begotten son in the OT, this doesn't apply.Get it?
“The angels that sinned”Since spirits can die this second death, they are not immortal to God, but as a matter of fact they are immortal to us. They can be restrained, but can't be killed. What is impossible to man is possible to God, that's what I meant.
I'm sure they're not, those are divine beings, aka angels, hosts of heaven. They don't die - UNITL God cast them into the Lake of Fire to die. These rebels will be judged. There's no place for them in New Jerusalem. If there were mortals, why would they die "like" men? Why not just die as men? And how come are they able to stand face to face before God (Job 1:6), since no man can see God's face and live (Ex. 33:20)?
And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day. (Jude 1:6)
John 3:31He is called man before he is given the breath of life.
It is man who returns to dust. It is his breath of life that returns to God who gave it.
neither his breath or his being a living soul is the man. Because animals are also living souls.
The breath is what he breathes, and alive is what he became.
When he stops breathing, he dies. And the man returns to dust.
That is the end of him.
However, God can raise the man and restore his life.
Well I would say it goes deeper than that..What does it means, man was made in the Image of God?
Ah, one of the most abused topics in Christian theology. If I had a nickel for every time I read someone make a point based on him being made in the Image of God incorrectly I'd be rich. Example: I have 10 toes and since I was made in the Image of God, God must have 10 toes.
Verses expounding on what aspects of our being are made in the Image of God is referred are few:
Ephesians 4:24 and put on the new self [the regenerated and renewed nature], created in God’s image, [godlike] in the righteousness and holiness of the truth".
Colossians 3:10 and have put on the new [spiritual] self who is being continually renewed in true knowledge in the image of Him who created the new self—
The Image of God refers to: knowledge of God, righteousness and holiness. Any other speculations are simply that.
The word “image” comes from the root meaning shadow. But more than that it is applied to physical representations of gods made by hands. Idols. Carved statues and the like. Graven images of gods.Well I would say it goes deeper than that..
Now we know the attributes of God that we do not have, here are a few...
" God is self-existent (aseity), and His existence depends on nothing outside of Himself (Ex 3:14; John 1:4; 5:26). He has life in Himself. There is no prior cause that brought God into existence, He will never cease to be, and He depends on nothing outside of Himself. God is holy (Lev 11:44; Psa 99:9; Isa 45:5-19). This means God is positively righteous and separate from all that is sinful. Holiness connotes moral purity. Being holy means God cannot be affixed to anything morally imperfect. God is Spirit (John 4:24; 2 Cor 3:17). This means the nature of God’s being is spirit, not material. God is sovereign (Psa 115:3; Isa 46:9-11; Dan 4:35; Acts 17:24-28). This means God acts freely as He pleases, always as He pleases, and only as He pleases. God is immutable (Psa 102:26-27; Mal 3:6). This means God’s essential nature does not change. God is eternal (Deut 33:27; 1 Tim 1:17). This means God has always existed, does exist, and forever will exist. God is infinite (1 Ki 8:27; Jer 23:24). Though God exists in space, He is also beyond space, infinite in being. God is omniscient (Psa 139:1-4; Matt 6:31-33). This means God knows all things, being infinite in knowledge. God is omnipresent (Psa 139:7-10; Jer 23:24). This means He is equally and fully everywhere present. God is omnipotent (Job 42:2; Isa 40:28). This means God is all-powerful and able to accomplish all He desires. have we have in common."The Person and Attributes of God - Thinking on Scripture
But man has attributes that do line up, for example, the Bible says that God is loving, merciful, righteous, and patient, Mankind also possess these attributes though certainly not to the same degree as God. The Bible also says that God can see and hear as well as walk and talk and many other things that man has.
Except that it can't, because it also says we are made in "God's image," not an angel's image nor the image of "the Angel of the Lord."The “us” in “let us make man in our image” refers to the angels of God. And specifically to the one referred to as the Angel of the Lord.
Except that "physical" is a different substance than "spiritual" (Isa. 31:3; Mark 14:38; Luke 23:46; 24:39; Rom. 8:16; 1 Cor. 2:1; etc.) and "God is Spirit" (John 4:24). He is also invisible (John 1:18; Col. 1:15; 1 Tim. 1:17) and became flesh (physical) at a point in time (John 1:14).The reason the churches believe “image” refers to something other than a physical representation or likeness in form is because they have been taught that God and angels have no physical form.
However, God did form man in His own image and likeness. The truth has been lost by the teaching of philosophers like Plato and Socrates. The church has picked up on their ideas of form.
If it be true that God has a physical body As well as the angels, then who is the adversary and his demon angels?
You gave NO scriptures to back up your opinion. I gave scriptures which means God backs up what I said assuming I understand said scriptures.Well I would say it goes deeper than that..
But man has attributes that do line up, for example, the Bible says that God is loving, merciful, righteous, and patient, Mankind also possess these attributes though certainly not to the same degree as God. The Bible also says that God can see and hear as well as walk and talk and many other things that man has.
Corruption, willful disobedience, willfully destroying what is good, and worse.This has been debated since the beginning. What do people have that the intelligent animals don't.
Yes. And even full numbers of collective singing in perfect harmony and pitch !Birds do sing, but have you ever seen 4 song birds get together to form a quartet.
Yes, sometimes much better than man has done.Animals build nests and dens, but have you ever seen them put in plumbing, lighting and such.