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Will A Covenant Be Made With Israel?
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Not the covenant I think you are referring to, but thanks for the heads up.
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“And after the sixty-two weeks
Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself;
And the people of the prince who is to come
Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.
The end of it shall be with a flood,
And till the end of the war desolations are determined.
Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week;
But in the middle of the week
He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.
And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate,
Even until the consummation, which is determined,
Is poured out on the desolate.” Daniel 9:26-27
It’s likely the covenant that will be confirmed by the antichrist will be the Jerusalem Covenant, which was drafted in 1992.
“he” in verse 27 refers to “the prince who is to come.”
- And the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.
The people who destroyed the city and sanctuary were the Romans.
The antichrist will be from that region.
Right now Prince Charles of wales fits the bill. (King Charles now)
It’s interesting to note that the heraldic symbol of Wales became the red dragon, when he turned 13 and was coronated as prince of wales.
Although President Trump has moved the US Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem during his first term, and is behind the scenes working with Israel to facilitate the rebuilding of the third temple, he is not the antichrist.
He is scene by the Jews as a type of King Cyrus.
They have made a temple coin with his likeness along side King Cyrus.
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The Jerusalem Covenant
As of this day, Jerusalem Day, the twenty-eight day of the month of Iyar in the year five thousand seven hundred fifty-two; one thousand nine hundred and twenty-two years after the destruction of the Second Temple; forty-four years since the founding of the State of Israel; twenty-five years since the Six Day War during which the Israel Defense Forces, in defense of our very existence, broke through the walls of the city and restored the Temple Mount and the unity of Jerusalem; twelve years since the Knesset of Israel reestablished the ‘Jerusalem, unified and whole, is the Capital of Israel’; the State of Israel is the State of the ‘Jewish People’ and the Capital of Israel is the Capital of the People of Israel. We have gathered together in Zion, national leaders and heads of our communities everywhere, to enter into a covenant with Jersualem, as was done by the leaders of our nation and all the people of Israel upon Israel’s return to its Land from the Babylonian exile; and the people and their leaders will dwell in Jerusalem, the Holy City.
Once again, ‘our feet stand within your gates, O Jerusalem – Jerusalem built as a city joined together’ which ‘unites the people of Israel to one another’, and ‘links heavenly Jerusalem with earthly Jerusalem.’
We have returned to the place that the Lord vowed to bestow upon the descendants of Abraham, Father of our Nation; to the City of David, King of Israel; where Solomon, son of David, built a Holy Temple; a Capital City which became the Mother of all Israel; a metropolis for justice and righteousness and for the wisdom and insights of the ancient world; where a Second Temple was erected in the days of Ezra and Nehemiah. In this city the prophets of the Lord prophesied; in the City the Sages taught Torah; in this City the Sanhedrin convened in session in its stone chamber. ‘For there were the seats of Justice, the Throne of the House of David’, ‘for out of Zion shall go forth Torah, and the Word of the Lord from Jerusalem.’
Today, as of old, we hold fast to the truth of the words of the Prophets of Israel, that all the inhabitants of the world shall enter within the gates of Jerusalem: ‘And it shall come to pass at the end of days, the mountain of the House of the Lord will be well established at the peak of the mountains and will tower above the hills, and all the nation shall stream towards it.’ Each and every nation will live in it by its own faith: ‘For all the nation will go forward, each with its own Divine Name; we shall go in the name of the Lord our God forever and ever.’ And in this spirit the Knesset of the State of Israel has enacted a law: The places holy to the peoples of all religions shall be protected from any desecration and from any restriction of free access to them.
Jerusalem – peace and tranquility shall reign in the city: ‘Pray for the peace of Jerusalem; may those who love you be tranquil. May there by peace within your walls, and tranquility within your palaces.’ Out of Jerusalem, a message of peace went forth and shall yet go forth again to all the inhabitants of the earth: ‘And they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning-hooks; nation will not lift up sword against nation, nor shall they learn war any more,’ our sages, peace be upon them, said. In the future, The Holy One, the Blessed, will comfort Jerusalem only with peace.
From this place, we once again take this vow: ‘If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, may my right hand lose its strength; may my tongue cleave to my palate if I do not remember you, if I do not raise up Jerusalem at the very height of my rejoicing.’
And with all these understandings, we enter into this Covenant and write: We shall bind you to us forever; we shall bind you to us with faithfulness, with righteousness and justice, with steadfast love and compassion. We love you, O Jerusalem, with eternal love, with unbounded love, under siege and when liberated from the yoke of oppressors. We have been martyred for you; we have yearned for you, we have clung to you. Our faithfulness to you we shall bequeath to our children after us. Forevermore our home shall be within you.
As of this day, Jerusalem Day, the twenty-eight day of the month of Iyar in the year five thousand seven hundred fifty-two; one thousand nine hundred and twenty-two years after the destruction of the Second Temple; forty-four years since the founding of the State of Israel; twenty-five years since the Six Day War during which the Israel Defense Forces, in defense of our very existence, broke through the walls of the city and restored the Temple Mount and the unity of Jerusalem; twelve years since the Knesset of Israel reestablished the ‘Jerusalem, unified and whole, is the Capital of Israel’; the State of Israel is the State of the ‘Jewish People’ and the Capital of Israel is the Capital of the People of Israel. We have gathered together in Zion, national leaders and heads of our communities everywhere, to enter into a covenant with Jersualem, as was done by the leaders of our nation and all the people of Israel upon Israel’s return to its Land from the Babylonian exile; and the people and their leaders will dwell in Jerusalem, the Holy City.
Once again, ‘our feet stand within your gates, O Jerusalem – Jerusalem built as a city joined together’ which ‘unites the people of Israel to one another’, and ‘links heavenly Jerusalem with earthly Jerusalem.’
We have returned to the place that the Lord vowed to bestow upon the descendants of Abraham, Father of our Nation; to the City of David, King of Israel; where Solomon, son of David, built a Holy Temple; a Capital City which became the Mother of all Israel; a metropolis for justice and righteousness and for the wisdom and insights of the ancient world; where a Second Temple was erected in the days of Ezra and Nehemiah. In this city the prophets of the Lord prophesied; in the City the Sages taught Torah; in this City the Sanhedrin convened in session in its stone chamber. ‘For there were the seats of Justice, the Throne of the House of David’, ‘for out of Zion shall go forth Torah, and the Word of the Lord from Jerusalem.’
Today, as of old, we hold fast to the truth of the words of the Prophets of Israel, that all the inhabitants of the world shall enter within the gates of Jerusalem: ‘And it shall come to pass at the end of days, the mountain of the House of the Lord will be well established at the peak of the mountains and will tower above the hills, and all the nation shall stream towards it.’ Each and every nation will live in it by its own faith: ‘For all the nation will go forward, each with its own Divine Name; we shall go in the name of the Lord our God forever and ever.’ And in this spirit the Knesset of the State of Israel has enacted a law: The places holy to the peoples of all religions shall be protected from any desecration and from any restriction of free access to them.
Jerusalem – peace and tranquility shall reign in the city: ‘Pray for the peace of Jerusalem; may those who love you be tranquil. May there by peace within your walls, and tranquility within your palaces.’ Out of Jerusalem, a message of peace went forth and shall yet go forth again to all the inhabitants of the earth: ‘And they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning-hooks; nation will not lift up sword against nation, nor shall they learn war any more,’ our sages, peace be upon them, said. In the future, The Holy One, the Blessed, will comfort Jerusalem only with peace.
From this place, we once again take this vow: ‘If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, may my right hand lose its strength; may my tongue cleave to my palate if I do not remember you, if I do not raise up Jerusalem at the very height of my rejoicing.’
And with all these understandings, we enter into this Covenant and write: We shall bind you to us forever; we shall bind you to us with faithfulness, with righteousness and justice, with steadfast love and compassion. We love you, O Jerusalem, with eternal love, with unbounded love, under siege and when liberated from the yoke of oppressors. We have been martyred for you; we have yearned for you, we have clung to you. Our faithfulness to you we shall bequeath to our children after us. Forevermore our home shall be within you.
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Hey Hidden In Him I can't speak for other's responses, but I'm not 'bashing' anyone. I'm posting a response to a news item that could be of significance to 'biblical end times'.Not the covenant I think you are referring to, but thanks for the heads up.
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The very last days are explained in the Revelation of a Beast (beasts are nations) that comes upon the world scene. That nation (beast) will have everyone following after them. People will be saying, "Who is like the beast (nation) and who can make war against the beast (nation
This isn't about politics, but about working to identify the 'beast' (nation) that rises up out of the sea. Since 1776 our nation has been rising up sustained mainly by people from every corner of the earth coming to be a part of it. We're the only nation that overall is made up of foreigners from other nations. Even our birth in the 1500's and beyond was accomplished by foreigners coming to this land and establishing a nation (beast).
We are, right now, the only nation on the face of the earth that every other nation thinks at least twice before trying to make war with us. Right now, there is no other nation on the face of the earth that fills as many of the porphetic way points about the Beast (nation) spoken of in the Revelation. So, I'm just bringing to attention some of the things that are going on that could be 'the signs' that Jesus spoke of and Daniel spoke of. I could be wrong, but that doesn't mean that these things aren't happening pretty much along the lines of the prophecies on the matter.
Just keep in mind that when Jesus came, everyone missed the prophecies about his coming being fulfilled. That a virgin woman was going to be with child. That his birth was to be in Bethlehem. Even the things that Jesus himself read from the scroll of Isaiah describing his very life and how he would live. Everybody seems to have missed that at the time.
Similarly, the prophecies of the very end time days will be fulfilled. Were they beginning to be fulfilled when
Columbus sailed the ocean blue. I mean, the beasts in Daniel's prophecy rose up for a time and ruled in their place over the earth. And there will be another final beast to 'rise up out of the sea'. There is certainly a point to be made that America rose up out of the sea.
So I offer up this article to note that right now, there is a gentile who is setting himself up as a king in Israel. Keep an eye on him. Maybe I'm reading the events going on in the world today incorrectly and in 20 years or 40 years some other nation (beast) will rise up out of the sea. But it better hurry! It takes a long time to build a nation. It took God 400 years and that's about how old America is as far as it's governmental authority.
I know that through all generations, since Jesus ascended, people have claimed the end is near. But I also know that one day the end will be near and the prophecies concerning the end will begin to come to life in reality. Jesus said that it's going to be just like in the days of Noah. Everyone just out living their lives and 'bam!' Jesus shows up. I believe that before that happens, these prophetic notes concerning this beast out of the sea will be fulfilled. Is it possible that it is now beginning to be fulfilled?
I generally didn't agree with some of the way the "Left Behind" series handled it, but that series did claim that this leader to rise up would be 'charismatic'. I think it was Nicolae the great charismatic leader that could make people believe whatever he said was true. But, in 10 years we'll know if there was anything to this warning.
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Could you share some scripture for your End Time Eschatology?
Do you understand the phrase “the prince of is to come” and what it refers to?
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Ok, I'll bite. How do you see the Prince of Wales as fulfilling any of the prophecies concerning the last days?
And really? You don't look at that coin and question how much trust God's people are putting in the man depicted on it, rather than God? On the coin that represents the Jewish temple? Like I say, when I see things like this picture with a graven image on a coin that represents the presence of God to His people. I have questions. Just questions. They may or may not mean anything today... but one day the prophecies will be fulfilled and those who are aware and watching should not be caught unawares as those in Israel 2,000 years ago.
BTW, I'm curious, do you know if that picture represents reality, or is it AI generated.
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Yes, I understand that the prince who was to come that Daniel wrote about, was referring to the gentile Romans and that one of the things that they would do is destroy the temple just as Jesus said they would. But that 'prince' isn't the same personage that is later being spoken of as the one who will bring in the last days. Of course, what it actually says is that 'the people' of the 'prince who is to come'. But then it says that 'the end of it' shall be with a flood. So, the destruction of the temple by the people of the prince who is to come isn't the end of it. That is still to come like a flood. "And till the end of the war desolations are determined".
So, as I understand all of this, the part that speaks of the destruction of the temple by the people of the prince who is to come, is a different prophecy that was to be fulfilled in 70 A.D. But then time and life upon the earth continues like a flood and we need to identify 'it'. "The end of it shall be with a flood,..."
Try stretching out the timeline from the destruction of the temple in 70 A.D. to some point in the future that the rest of the prophecy will find fulfillment. At the end of the future we will find the desolations that are determined.
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Why so many students of the Bible prophecy have taught since the early 1980s that Prince Charles could be actually the foretold Antichrist?
Why world leaders follow the post-pandemic agenda called ”Build Back Better” that Prince Charles launched in January 2020 at Davos together with the founder of World Economic Forum Klaus Schwab?
Bestowal of title: He had officially been created Prince of Wales by his mother, Queen Elizabeth II, in 1958, but the formal investiture took place more than a decade later.
As an emblem, the red dragon of Wales is present on the national flag of Wales, which became an official flag in 1959.
The first prophecy and its fulfillment in Prince Charles were following:
Prophecy fulfillment #2
Prophecy fulfillment #3
Prophecy fulfillment #4
Prophecy fulfillment #5
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The man you are referring was voted as President of the United States.
A simple election doesn't mean God's people are putting their trust in him over God.
The people of America wanted a change in leadership.
The prince who is to come is from the region of the Roman Empire.
Remember, the antichrist and the third temple is from God, who is sending a strong delusion upon those who refuse to love the truth.
The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12
I think your complaint is with God.
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“And after the sixty-two weeks
Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself;
And the people of the prince who is to come
Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.
The end of it shall be with a flood,
And till the end of the war desolations are determined.
- the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.
That's why he is referred to as the prince who "is to come".
Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week;
But in the middle of the week
He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.
And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate,
Even until the consummation, which is determined,
Is poured out on the desolate.” Daniel 9:26-27
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Hey Hidden In Him
So, as I see it, someone on the world stage is going to make some sort of promise or commitment to Israel. I believe it is Israel because it says with the many, but then goes on to speak of ending sacrifice and offering, which would be the Jewish temple services. Christians don't do sacrifices.
But we're just having a discussion on 'how' these prophecies might work out and whether or not we are seeing any of that working out in today's activities on the earth. As I said, most people missed Jesus' coming and I'd hate to miss his second coming because I wasn't watching the signs as the people in Israel seemed to have missed in Jesus' day.
If Beast, as used by Daniel here is the same as the Beasts in the description of the Babylonian, Medo-Persian and Grecian and Roman empires, then a beast (nation) is going to rise up out of the sea. And just like those previous beasts, they represented nations that stood for many years and then were taken over by the next beast (nation) given control by God over the great number of people on the earth. But we're told of a final beast that will rise up out of the sea. And it takes a long time for a nation to be founded. It's not like next week some great nation is going to be forged among the people and land of the earth. Not at all. Because nations take many years to come to be.
Except for Israel. God even explains that as one of the miracles we can see in Israel. Isaiah writes of a nation being born in a day and that's exactly what happened to Israel. All it's culture and language and people were recognized as a nation in one day in 1948. But that's exactly what makes the prophecy to miraculous, because as God asks, "can a nation be born in a day?" And the regular answer to that question is no. But God did it right on time according to His written law.
And there is actually a prophecy that deals with Ezekiel being told to lie on his side for so many days to represent the period of punishment for Israel. Then there is the promise in the law where God says that if His people don't repent from their initial punishment, then He will multiply that punishment times seven. That has actually been worked out to end at exactly March 14, 1948. It's really pretty amazing that God knew that Isreal would be rebuilt and be a nation again on an exact date. Now many believe that the rebirth of Israel is one of the first signs of the coming end of days. So, now Israel has been rebirthed as a nation. Should we then begin to look for end times prophecies being fulfilled concerning the last days, now that Israel is back where it was always supposed to be?
And again, my purpose is not to make some sure claim that these events are the events the Scriptures speak of, but there are ways that one could consider that they could be. Let's discuss.
What covenant do you think that I am referring to? And of course, do you see this 'covenant' spoken of as being some formal legal contract or just a promise or commitment that someone might make? Daniel's prophecy says that 'he' shall confirm a covenant for one week. Based on Daniel's use of weeks in this very prophecy, this week should also be a period of 7 years just as the other weeks turned out to be.
So, as I see it, someone on the world stage is going to make some sort of promise or commitment to Israel. I believe it is Israel because it says with the many, but then goes on to speak of ending sacrifice and offering, which would be the Jewish temple services. Christians don't do sacrifices.
But we're just having a discussion on 'how' these prophecies might work out and whether or not we are seeing any of that working out in today's activities on the earth. As I said, most people missed Jesus' coming and I'd hate to miss his second coming because I wasn't watching the signs as the people in Israel seemed to have missed in Jesus' day.
If Beast, as used by Daniel here is the same as the Beasts in the description of the Babylonian, Medo-Persian and Grecian and Roman empires, then a beast (nation) is going to rise up out of the sea. And just like those previous beasts, they represented nations that stood for many years and then were taken over by the next beast (nation) given control by God over the great number of people on the earth. But we're told of a final beast that will rise up out of the sea. And it takes a long time for a nation to be founded. It's not like next week some great nation is going to be forged among the people and land of the earth. Not at all. Because nations take many years to come to be.
Except for Israel. God even explains that as one of the miracles we can see in Israel. Isaiah writes of a nation being born in a day and that's exactly what happened to Israel. All it's culture and language and people were recognized as a nation in one day in 1948. But that's exactly what makes the prophecy to miraculous, because as God asks, "can a nation be born in a day?" And the regular answer to that question is no. But God did it right on time according to His written law.
And there is actually a prophecy that deals with Ezekiel being told to lie on his side for so many days to represent the period of punishment for Israel. Then there is the promise in the law where God says that if His people don't repent from their initial punishment, then He will multiply that punishment times seven. That has actually been worked out to end at exactly March 14, 1948. It's really pretty amazing that God knew that Isreal would be rebuilt and be a nation again on an exact date. Now many believe that the rebirth of Israel is one of the first signs of the coming end of days. So, now Israel has been rebirthed as a nation. Should we then begin to look for end times prophecies being fulfilled concerning the last days, now that Israel is back where it was always supposed to be?
And again, my purpose is not to make some sure claim that these events are the events the Scriptures speak of, but there are ways that one could consider that they could be. Let's discuss.
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Well, you're making this about America. And while the prophecy of the beast out of the sea could well be referring to America, the point I'm making is that the Israeli people sure seem to be lifting up some Gentile king above their God. That didn't have anything to do with them electing anyone. I don't think it's going to be a Jew that fulfills this prophecy. I believe it will be someone outside of Israel. So, first thing to understand is that Isreal did not hold a simple election putting their trust in him over God. They are just putting a whole lot of faith in Him to resolve their problems. We'll see. But really, you think that God is pleased that a coin designated for His temple has someone else's likeness on it? I don't know, of course, but I reason that God might be quite miffed about that and see it as an abomination. God wants His people to trust only in Him. If we make it through the next 10 years and nothing has happened on the matter, then I was wrong about the times, but the times are working out to be pretty close to many of the end times prophecies.
Wars and rumors of wars. I don't think that anyone would deny that we have a lot of wars and there are even more rumors of war. In fact, 7 just ended. That's a lot of wars going on. And that 7 wasn't all of the various wars and skirmishes that go on between the nations of the earth. And many, many, many rumors of war swirl around us each month and year.
Earthquakes in diverse places. We are experiencing more earthquakes than we ever have in known recorded history. And they are certainly in many, many diverse places.
Moral decline is happening all around us. It's probably something that we rail about even more these days.
Knowledge is also increasing by leaps and bounds. Now everyone has the knowledge of everyone else just through the use of Googe or YouTube.
So, I'm not sure that we're not moving right into the last days and so we should expect to begin seeing many of the end times prophecies fulfilling. Could this be a part of it? I don't know. But I think the wise believer keeps looking and considering 'how' the end will come like a flood upon us.
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Prophecy: The Antichrist must “fulfill” the expectations of Jews for their awaited Messiah
Hi JLB
No he doesn't. There's no link between the Jewish people and a Messiah figure as the person/s that God is talking about that rise up as the Antichrist or other players in the final days scenario.
The Antichrist deceives the Jews, Yes, it is mentioned that there will be some deception of God's people, and that's pretty much what could be happening right now with these events. Like I say, we need to give it time to unfold if that's the case. So, my caution is just that everyone keep their eyes open about events going on today that 'could' be what the Scriptures foretell about the end of days.
Hi JLB
No he doesn't. There's no link between the Jewish people and a Messiah figure as the person/s that God is talking about that rise up as the Antichrist or other players in the final days scenario.
The Antichrist deceives the Jews, Yes, it is mentioned that there will be some deception of God's people, and that's pretty much what could be happening right now with these events. Like I say, we need to give it time to unfold if that's the case. So, my caution is just that everyone keep their eyes open about events going on today that 'could' be what the Scriptures foretell about the end of days.
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Actually you are.
I'm making it about the antichrist, and a possibility of who he is.
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Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4
Who builds the temple that the antichrist will sit in?
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The see him as a Cyrus.
A Gentile that helps them and allows them to rebuild their temple.
28 Who says of Cyrus, ‘He is My shepherd,
And he shall perform all My pleasure,
Saying to Jerusalem, “You shall be built,”
And to the temple, “Your foundation shall be laid.” ’
1 “Thus says the LORD to His anointed,
To Cyrus, whose right hand I have held—
To subdue nations before him
And loose the armor of kings,
To open before him the double doors,
So that the gates will not be shut:
2 ‘I will go before you
And make the crooked places straight;
I will break in pieces the gates of bronze
And cut the bars of iron.
3 I will give you the treasures of darkness
And hidden riches of secret places,
That you may know that I, the LORD,
Who call you by your name,
Am the God of Israel.
4 For Jacob My servant’s sake,
And Israel My elect,
I have even called you by your name;
I have named you, though you have not known Me. Isaiah 44:28 - 45:4
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The Antichrist arises during that generation that sees Israel’s national revival (Ezek. 36:24: Matt. 24:32-34, 2 Thess. 2:4). Fulfillment: Prince Charles was born the same year as Israel became the independent nation from the British Empire in 1948; for the first time since the Kingdom of Israel and Judah and 2,500 years of diaspora.
Hi again JLB So you agree that we should be watching and that it may well be very soon if it does 'arise' during the generation that sees Israel's national revival.
The Antichrist is a prince within the boundaries of the ancient Roman Empire.
Not sure I'm in agreement on that. Many believe he will have European descent and the one in charge in America does have that. He hails from German descent only two generations back.
Prophecy: The name of the Antichrist should count up 666 by using Greek-Hebrew gematria (Rev. 13:18). Fulfillment: Prince Charles’ official title Charles, Prince of Wales, sums up 666 both in English and Hebrew by using the decimal system of Hebrew-Greek gematria (what earliest Church Fathers also used).
I'm not sure that anyone is really clear on what the 666 refers to in the Scriptures. But I'm not sold on letter numerology having anything to do with it. In fact, over the years, I think that hundreds of people have worked out how this man's name or that man's name equals this mystical 666. Seems like I remember how it was explained that Obama's name equaled 666 and Nero Ceaser's name equaled 666. And so I have a lot of doubt that some gematria of a name that equals 666 is really what the Scriptures are pointing us to.
Anyway, as far as his 'doing' anything that would link him to any of the prophecies, I don't see it. But again, I think that we both agree that the time is ripe for these prophecies to begin to come to the reality of life lived on the earth. 'How' that will happen as it actually unfolds in real life to our eyes and ears is yet to be determined.
Hi again JLB So you agree that we should be watching and that it may well be very soon if it does 'arise' during the generation that sees Israel's national revival.
The Antichrist is a prince within the boundaries of the ancient Roman Empire.
Not sure I'm in agreement on that. Many believe he will have European descent and the one in charge in America does have that. He hails from German descent only two generations back.
Prophecy: The name of the Antichrist should count up 666 by using Greek-Hebrew gematria (Rev. 13:18). Fulfillment: Prince Charles’ official title Charles, Prince of Wales, sums up 666 both in English and Hebrew by using the decimal system of Hebrew-Greek gematria (what earliest Church Fathers also used).
I'm not sure that anyone is really clear on what the 666 refers to in the Scriptures. But I'm not sold on letter numerology having anything to do with it. In fact, over the years, I think that hundreds of people have worked out how this man's name or that man's name equals this mystical 666. Seems like I remember how it was explained that Obama's name equaled 666 and Nero Ceaser's name equaled 666. And so I have a lot of doubt that some gematria of a name that equals 666 is really what the Scriptures are pointing us to.
Anyway, as far as his 'doing' anything that would link him to any of the prophecies, I don't see it. But again, I think that we both agree that the time is ripe for these prophecies to begin to come to the reality of life lived on the earth. 'How' that will happen as it actually unfolds in real life to our eyes and ears is yet to be determined.
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