How few will be saved?

[YosefHayim]

Jesus said the road was narrow, and few would be saved.

This is a painful thought. I once asked God why it was this way, and I felt as though he replied "Do you know the hearts of men?"

But I've heard enough of todays secular music, that the secular testify themselves they want to go to hell.

"I'm hard, Jehovah said I'm barred from the pearly gates **** him, I didn't want to go to Heaven anyway" - Notorious B.I.G. Also sampled by Pretty Lights in Sunday School

"I take NO pleasure in the death of them that die" - Jehovah.​

 

[KevinK]

I've heard that as few as one-in-a-thousand will be saved. I've no idea how far that is from the truth, but even if close it's mind-numbing.

Turn to Jesus NOW.

 

[Blake]

In America, 5% of professing Christians are Christian, by my own estimation. I myself fall often by the wayside and worship at my own convenience, and I know I am not likely among the 5% by my deeds, my only plea is Jesus Christ and the blood that He shed for me, and I believe that He will finish the work He started in me.

I think the number will be small, Brother Yosef. And the greatest of that number will probably be martyrs.

But there are those who disagree with me:

“Because salvation is by grace through faith, I believe that among the countless number of people standing in front of the throne and in front of the Lamb, dressed in white robes and holding palms in their hands (see Revelation 7:9), I shall see the prostitute from the Kit-Kat Ranch in Carson City, Nevada, who tearfully told me that she could find no other employment to support her two-year-old son. I shall see the woman who had an abortion and is haunted by guilt and remorse but did the best she could faced with grueling alternatives; the businessman besieged with debt who sold his integrity in a series of desperate transactions; the insecure clergyman addicted to being liked, who never challenged his people from the pulpit and longed for unconditional love; the sexually abused teen molested by his father and now selling his body on the street, who, as he falls asleep each night after his last 'trick', whispers the name of the unknown God he learned about in Sunday school.

'But how?' we ask.

Then the voice says, 'They have washed their robes and have made them white in the blood of the Lamb.'

There they are. There *we* are - the multitude who so wanted to be faithful, who at times got defeated, soiled by life, and bested by trials, wearing the bloodied garments of life's tribulations, but through it all clung to faith.

My friends, if this is not good news to you, you have never understood the gospel of grace.”
― Brennan Manning, The Ragamuffin Gospel: Good News for the Bedraggled, Beat-Up, and Burnt Out

 

[YosefHayim]

In America, 5% of professing Christians are Christian, by my own estimation. I myself fall often by the wayside and worship at my own convenience, and I know I am not likely among the 5% by my deeds, my only plea is Jesus Christ and the blood that He shed for me, and I believe that He will finish the work He started in me.

I think the number will be small, Brother Yosef. And the greatest of that number will probably be martyrs.

But there are those who disagree with me:

“Because salvation is by grace through faith, I believe that among the countless number of people standing in front of the throne and in front of the Lamb, dressed in white robes and holding palms in their hands (see Revelation 7:9), I shall see the prostitute from the Kit-Kat Ranch in Carson City, Nevada, who tearfully told me that she could find no other employment to support her two-year-old son. I shall see the woman who had an abortion and is haunted by guilt and remorse but did the best she could faced with grueling alternatives; the businessman besieged with debt who sold his integrity in a series of desperate transactions; the insecure clergyman addicted to being liked, who never challenged his people from the pulpit and longed for unconditional love; the sexually abused teen molested by his father and now selling his body on the street, who, as he falls asleep each night after his last 'trick', whispers the name of the unknown God he learned about in Sunday school.

'But how?' we ask.

Then the voice says, 'They have washed their robes and have made them white in the blood of the Lamb.'

There they are. There *we* are - the multitude who so wanted to be faithful, who at times got defeated, soiled by life, and bested by trials, wearing the bloodied garments of life's tribulations, but through it all clung to faith.

My friends, if this is not good news to you, you have never understood the gospel of grace.”
― Brennan Manning, The Ragamuffin Gospel: Good News for the Bedraggled, Beat-Up, and Burnt Out

Here's a statistic from The Supernatural Worldview by Cris Putnam:

A 2009 Barna Group survey sought to determine how many Americans hold to a biblical worldview. For the survey, a biblical worldview was defined as follows:

Believing that absolute moral truth exists; the Bible is totally accurate in all the principles it teaches; Satan is considered to be a real being or force, not merely symbolic; a person cannot earn their way into Heaven by trying to be good or do good works; Jesus Christ lived a sinless life on earth; and God is all-knowing, all-powerful creator of the world who still rules the universe today​

The data revealed that less than 9 percent of Americans have a biblical worldview. Even amongst folks who claimed the title "born again," the percentage was a dismal 19 percent. If most self-proclaimed Christians do not have a Supernatural Worldview, our evangelism faces a serious problem.​

Scripture says "For we are not as MANY which corrupt the word of God"

 

[Michael74]

“Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it. Matthew 7:13-14 NIV

The Bible does not give a percentage. This is what we are given.

 

[Brother Mike]

Here's a statistic from The Supernatural Worldview by Cris Putnam:

A 2009 Barna Group survey sought to determine how many Americans hold to a biblical worldview. For the survey, a biblical worldview was defined as follows:

Believing that absolute moral truth exists; the Bible is totally accurate in all the principles it teaches; Satan is considered to be a real being or force, not merely symbolic; a person cannot earn their way into Heaven by trying to be good or do good works; Jesus Christ lived a sinless life on earth; and God is all-knowing, all-powerful creator of the world who still rules the universe today​

The data revealed that less than 9 percent of Americans have a biblical worldview. Even amongst folks who claimed the title "born again," the percentage was a dismal 19 percent. If most self-proclaimed Christians do not have a Supernatural Worldview, our evangelism faces a serious problem.​

Scripture says "For we are not as MANY which corrupt the word of God"

Hence why I teach faith, and walking in the power of the Holy Spirit. We have yet to tap into what the Lord wants to do through us and for us.

Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
(Mat 7:13)
There is nothing in the Greek denoting a few will be saved. What Jesus is saying by reading through the whole chapter is that the condition is that He be Lord over all things in your life. If you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart, you shall be saved. Not many have actually made him Lord or believe what He says.

Just talking with someone telling me about statistics of Christians murdered in China, and bla, bla, bla. Jesus said, Nothing by any means will Hurt us, (Luke 10:19) If Jesus said that, then it's so, and we don't have to be hurt like the rest. It's just many examples of dishonor to every Word the Lord Gave us, and it needs to change. Twice now folks have tried to kill me for preaching Jesus, and twice, super natural on the spot rescued. It's not that I am special, but it's what I spoke and believe.

Jesus must be Lord, every Word must be first place.

Mike.

 

[Jesus Martyr]

(Rom 11:4) But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
(Rom 11:5) Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

 

[YosefHayim]

Hence why I teach faith, and walking in the power of the Holy Spirit. We have yet to tap into what the Lord wants to do through us and for us.

Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
(Mat 7:13)
There is nothing in the Greek denoting a few will be saved. What Jesus is saying by reading through the whole chapter is that the condition is that He be Lord over all things in your life. If you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart, you shall be saved. Not many have actually made him Lord or believe what He says.

Just talking with someone telling me about statistics of Christians murdered in China, and bla, bla, bla. Jesus said, Nothing by any means will Hurt us, (Luke 10:19) If Jesus said that, then it's so, and we don't have to be hurt like the rest. It's just many examples of dishonor to every Word the Lord Gave us, and it needs to change. Twice now folks have tried to kill me for preaching Jesus, and twice, super natural on the spot rescued. It's not that I am special, but it's what I spoke and believe.

Jesus must be Lord, every Word must be first place.

Mike.

Jesus said many would be called, but few would be chosen.

Are you implying that martyrdom and persecution should not happen to a Christian because Jesus said nothing will harm us? On the basis of luke 10:19 do we throw away the fact that disciples were martyrs, and mounds of scriptures that say that believers would be persecuted, reviled, jailed, murdered (or slain), and tortured for the Word of God and their testimony?

 

[Sparkey]

Who said, "My Glory shall fill all heaven and all earth??" I think that promise means 100%
But just not yet. Let the dead bury the dead. He is NOT WILLING that any should perish(!).

How about you?

But no, before anybody grabs their pitchforks and gets their torches, let me correct that to say that I absolutely do NOT believe in any kind of universal salvation or any other such bunk. Just thought I'd interject with a bit of salt to our conversation, that's all.

Blessings to all you Christ-Be-comers!

 

[YosefHayim]

And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have NOT the seal of God in their foreheads. Revelation 9:3-4
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In parallel to this verse, it seems that there are spiritual implications rather than physical. Satan is the God of this world. Our physical bodies can be hurt, but not our spiritual bodies. Jesus said "Fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul". This seems we can go hard headed against those which are capable of killing us.

 

[Sparkey]

Not many have actually made him Lord or believe what He says.

I call him LORD in faith. And I recently have found myself apologizing even when I do that. Because I know what it means to love Him and to love Him more than my own life -- but my stupid flesh?

When I look back to figure this out and ponder with some reflection what I notice is that the apology that is now coming from me like a little tiny reminder string tied to the word LORD, started when I was praying about and wanting to realize the promise found in Hosea about ISHI and BAALI. You know that one?

He promises to betroth us. Even to betroth us in righteousness! That's worth a think or two, now isn't it? We don't have to do it. He will.

 

[Brother Mike]

Jesus said many would be called, but few would be chosen.

Are you implying that martyrdom and persecution should not happen to a Christian because Jesus said nothing will harm us? On the basis of luke 10:19 do we throw away the fact that disciples were martyrs, and mounds of scriptures that say that believers would be persecuted, reviled, jailed, murdered (or slain), and tortured for the Word of God and their testimony?

It's a bit more complicated than that. Understanding how things work, and spiritual laws help us avoid lot's of issues that should be avoided.

If Jesus said nothing by any means will hurt you and you have authority over the spirits causing the hurt, then that is exactly what He meant as we don't wrestle against flesh and blood, but the principalities behind it.

Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.
(Luk 10:19-20)

So we don't have mounds of scriptures promising that we will be horrible killed off and go through horrible things. We have people focusing on those, and not taking into account what the other scriptures say. It does not take much faith to believe you will be persecuted and killed, but it does take faith, and no fear to lay hold onto "Nothing by any means shall hurt you." We can see folks look at the path of least resistance.

If anyone knew about being persecuted, then Paul would be our best teacher. He suffered things at his own hand, like ending up in the Roman prison, and he suffered because of preaching the Word. He suffered both cases of his fault, and for the Word.

Paul said this though.

And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith. But the Lord is faithful, who shall stablish you, and keep you from evil.
(2Th 3:2-3)

Paul said no matter who comes after you, God is faithful to deliver you, and keep you from Evil. Same things Jesus said. Paul said this by the Word of God, but He also lived this out a whole lot of times.

What about the persecutions, and bad things?
These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
(Joh 16:33)
And have no root in themselves, and so endure but for a time: afterward, when affliction or persecution ariseth for the word's sake, immediately they are offended.
(Mar 4:17)

Two different persecutions here. One for taking the gospel out to the Word. One for trying to believe the scripture about something, like getting bills paid, healing, whatever. Both persecutions come from the enemy. If your going to stand in faith on scripture for something the devil has introduced into your life, there will be a fight sometimes called the good fight of faith, resisting the devil, submitting to God, being steadfast in faith. Other times, someone may just want to kill you while your talking about Jesus, Jesus tends to upset some folks.

the other persecution Peter talks about, things that our fault. Like texting and driving and ending up hitting a tree. We can't say that is persecution for being a Christian, even if we were typing scriptures to the forum here while driving.

For preaching the Word's sake:

2Ti 4:6 For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand.

Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
(Joh 10:17-18)

Our body is not our own, it was bought and paid for with a price. Nothing Earthly can just come and kill us, because it does not belong to us, or anyone here, or any devil. Our bodies belong to God, and we are suppose to be stewards of our temple, walk in faith, and most important, love and obedience. If we get off God's path, get in the devils territory, then things at times end short for you.

What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
(1Co 6:19)

Why we are protected?
It goes back to your post, doing the will of God, walking in Love, and in faith. We are protected to complete the plan of the Lord for his purpose. Paul saw that, Jesus knew that, and we should know this. Each disciple completed everything God called them to do and nobody died early before they finished their race. Paul also talks about running your course, and you can't do that if you end up dead early.

Heb_11:35 Women received their dead raised to life again: and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection:

Many are called, few are chosen

Long enough, Jesus was not talking about the same thing as in Matt. He is talking about being fit for being called. Read the whole chapter. Remember the guy that wanted to bury his family member, and Jesus said your not fit looking back? He was called, just like the rich young ruler, but both walked away from the call and not chooen.

Mike.

 

[Brother Mike]

I call him LORD in faith. And I recently have found myself apologizing even when I do that. Because I know what it means to love Him and to love Him more than my own life -- but my stupid flesh?

When I look back to figure this out and ponder with some reflection what I notice is that the apology that is now coming from me like a little tiny reminder string tied to the word LORD, started when I was praying about and wanting to realize the promise found in Hosea about ISHI and BAALI. You know that one?

He promises to betroth us. Even to betroth us in righteousness! That's worth a think or two, now isn't it. We don't have to do it. He will.

It's not our love for him, it's our love for others that counts. What we do for others, He said we do it to him. A whole lot of folks out there saying they love the Lord, but sure won't get some food out of their fridge to feed a brother or sister.

As for Righteousness, the free gift, it's by faith, and once again loops back to what I said about believing the word. Righteousness just means right standing with. How good do you think God is? 1990 Honda good, or 2015 Lamborghini good? If He is really Daddy, then Daddy ain't limited to nothing in your life. If He is just God, and some far off being, then get ready for the Honda.

Mike.

 

[Sparkey]

It's not our love for him, it's our love for others that counts.

I know you're preaching. Please don't feel like you have to stop what you're doing to correct little ol' me. Did you really take the time needed to study the whole book of hosea and then wait upon the Lord to see what I might mean? Or did you just continue your preaching and use me as a springboard? Both are okay by me, of course. Have I told you recently that I love you? Oh, yeah. I have.

How good do you think God is? 1990 Honda good, or 2015 Lamborghini good?

Now you got it. I am the beneficiary of a love story. It is the love story between Father and Son! I am also here crying in the wilderness but unlike others, I am not crying to repent nor make straight the paths. I am crying here, seemingly alone, saying one thing with all my might:

Fathers(!) Turn your hearts. Children too. This, my friend, is the voice of the friend of the bridegroom in these, the later days. We are looking for the 2nd Rain, the Latter Rain.

Brother, God-Speed to you!

 

[Brother Mike]

I know you're preaching. Please don't feel like you have to stop what you're doing to correct little ol' me. Did you really take the time needed to study the whole book of hosea and then wait upon the Lord to see what I might mean? Or did you just continue your preaching and use me as a springboard? Both are okay by me, of course. Have I told you recently that I love you? Oh, yeah. I have.

And I will betroth thee unto me for ever; yea, I will betroth thee unto me in righteousness, and in judgment, and in lovingkindness, and in mercies. I will even betroth thee unto me in faithfulness: and thou shalt know the LORD. And it shall come to pass in that day, I will hear, saith the LORD, I will hear the heavens, and they shall hear the earth; And the earth shall hear the corn, and the wine, and the oil; and they shall hear Jezreel.
(Hos 2:19-22)
For a small moment have I forsaken thee; but with great mercies will I gather thee. In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for a moment; but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith the LORD thy Redeemer. For this is as the waters of Noah unto me: for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth; so have I sworn that I would not be wroth with thee, nor rebuke thee. For the mountains shall depart, and the hills be removed; but my kindness shall not depart from thee, neither shall the covenant of my peace be removed, saith the LORD that hath mercy on thee.
(Isa 54:7-10)

I did consider, even thought on the scripture scripture in ISA. Then I thought.......... all that don't matter if we don't know, and with knowing accepting, and without accepting, believing it's true, and going from believing it's true, to fully convinced, and nothing else presented can be true.

You seem to know though, so why hash over it again?

If your Lambo shows up first, I want to take a trip to Washington for a ride.

Love you to Brother.

Mike.

 

[Sparkey]

You are very welcome and correct about my "LambO"

He will come for me. And you are invited to the ride. I already know.
Rebecca's name is Rivkah and it means "to tie tightly" -- grab on, my friend. I am binding you in prayer constantly. Binding you to him and him to you! In the NAME.

It's a Father / Son think. And it doesn't matter who is the father between you and me -- we both share the same Daddy. I see you from far and have since the first day you posted but you already know.

 

[YosefHayim]

So we don't have mounds of scriptures promising that we will be horrible killed off and go through horrible things.

Of course we don't have mounds promising that we will all definitely be martyred, if you exaggerate what I said previously. However, there are plenty of scriptures that show it has and will definitely happen, for a prophet is not without honor save among his own:


9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for lack of faith in a literal rendering of luke 10:19 the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: Revelation 6:9

and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for lack of faith in a literal rendering of luke 10:19 the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands. Revelation 20:4

Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for lack of faith in a literal rendering of luke 10:19 my name's sake. Matthew 24:9

But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake. Luke 21:12

When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth. But he, lacking in faith being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God. Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord, And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man's feet, whose name was Saul. And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep. Acts 7

And he killed James the brother of John with the sword.
Acts 12:2

Also. Paul was martyred under Nero.

 

[Brother Mike]

Of course we don't have mounds promising that we will all definitely be martyred, if you exaggerate what I said previously. However, there are plenty of scriptures that show it has and will definitely happen, for a prophet is not without honor save among his own:


9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for lack of faith in a literal rendering of luke 10:19 the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: Revelation 6:9

and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for lack of faith in a literal rendering of luke 10:19 the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands. Revelation 20:4

Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for lack of faith in a literal rendering of luke 10:19 my name's sake. Matthew 24:9

But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake. Luke 21:12

When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth. But he, lacking in faith being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God. Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord, And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man's feet, whose name was Saul. And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep. Acts 7

And he killed James the brother of John with the sword.
Acts 12:2

Also. Paul was martyred under Nero.

Everything that Jesus told his disciples happened, and you did not read my post carefully, because I explained what you just posted.

Now if you think Faith does not overcome things in this World, not much I can do as we have to go back to basics here. You put a strike through "Lacking in faith" which means your mocking faith, and Jesus said all things were possible to them that believe.

Heb_11:35 Women received their dead raised to life again: and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection:

So, is deliverance there? Does it take faith? What do you think? It can't be we have to be killed, and promised to be delivered, but you should actually read my post, not skim through it.

Mike.

 

[Runner]

My friends, if this is not good news to you, you have never understood the gospel of grace.”
― Brennan Manning, The Ragamuffin Gospel: Good News for the Bedraggled, Beat-Up, and Burnt Out

This is a classic conundrum. Would Jesus have said what He said if the gate were not small and the road were not narrow? Well, yes, perhaps. I for one don't think He was really telling us to cut off our sinful hands and pluck out our sinful eyes, and apparently 99.99% of Christians don't either. Hyperbole can be an effective tool. Many commentators have noted the similarity between Jesus' sayings and those of Zen masters, who are known for saying extreme things to make their point.

However, it is entirely possible that Jesus did mean exactly what He said and that the gate is indeed very small, the road is indeed very narrow, and those who will find the way are indeed numerically very few. Perhaps only 144,000 of the billions who have ever lived will be saved. I find this highly unlikely and tend to agree with Brennan Manning. I don't want to precipitate a universal salvation debate, but I would be less surprised if universal salvation proved to be true than if only 144,000 or even 144,000,000 were saved. I do not base this on any particular literalist or non-literalist reading of the Bible, but more on an overall sense of what the Creator of the universe as revealed in the Bible and in my life is like. If only 144,000 are going to be saved, the good news of the Gospel begins to sound more like a "There's good news and bad news" joke. That being said, God's ways are not our ways and it is certainly possible that the gate is indeed very small and the road is indeed very narrow; if this proves to be true, those who pass through the gate while billions burn in Hell will see that the entire plan was somehow worthy of the Creator of the universe, as counterintuitive as that may now seem (at least to me).

Or perhaps Jesus simply meant that the gate is small and the road is narrow in the sense that He is the only way to God. "The few" who find it could be anything from a very large percentage of those who profess to be Christians (still a comparative few in the history of mankind) or only some very small percentage of "real" Christians (whatever that may mean to God).

I think we tend to spend too much time worrying about this sort of thing, and especially in taking secret pleasure over those whom we are pretty sure won't make it through the gate. "Oh, those [Muslims, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Catholics - insert your favorite], they're going to get their comeuppance in the end" - the implication that I'm pretty sure I'm going to make the cut, or I wouldn't be saying something like this. I think it makes the most sense to "work out your own salvation with fear and trembling" (Philippians 2:12, ESV), or even with joyful leaping and praising, and let God worry about who else is or isn't going to pass through the gate.

 

[Eugene]

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The following is but a portion of the kingdom of God.
Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
Rev 19:6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.