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The verse is Isaiah 60:1
Arise, shine;
For your light has come!.../

First word; Is this a command? A request? Intercession? What is this. Arise. To me, it has the ring of a command. A call to action? What's that mean? And to shine? How is a believer to shine? What's that mean?

It's a small verse.
 
Isa 60:1 Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the LORD is risen upon thee.
Isa 60:2 For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the LORD shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee.
Reads too me like we are to reflect His glory.. :)
 
Edward said:
The verse is Isaiah 60:1
Arise, shine;
For your light has come!.../

First word; Is this a command? A request? Intercession? What is this. Arise. To me, it has the ring of a command. A call to action? What's that mean? And to shine? How is a believer to shine? What's that mean?

It's a small verse.
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reba said:
Isa 60:1 Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the LORD is risen upon thee.
Isa 60:2 For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the LORD shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee.
Reads too me like we are to reflect His glory.. :)
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A good example of how misleading single verses can sometimes be... and how dangerous it is to try and make something that even hints at "doctrinal instruction" out of them.

As Reba showed, much more needed to be read in order to grasp the small part of the passage the OP used.

This is, absolutely, no way to ever read the Bible.
 
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Willie T said:
A good example of how misleading single verses can sometimes be... and how dangerous it is to try and make something that even hints at "doctrinal instruction" out of them.

This is, absolutely, no way to ever read the Bible.
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Explain to me in more detail how i misunderstood the passage ?
 
reba said:
Explain to me in more detail how i misunderstood the passage ?
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Possibly the same way you just misunderstood my post. LOL

I actually AGREED with your reading of the whole passage (or much of it) in context, as opposed to how the direction the OP seemed to be taking it in with his few words about a few words.
 
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Edward said:
The verse is Isaiah 60:1
Arise, shine;
For your light has come!.../

First word; Is this a command? A request? Intercession? What is this. Arise. To me, it has the ring of a command. A call to action? What's that mean? And to shine? How is a believer to shine? What's that mean?

It's a small verse.
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It is a prophecy of the state of the New Jerusalem and it occupants and the King that will draw men and the nations to know the Lord during the Kingdom Millennial (Rev. 22:21-27) (Isa. 60:3)
 
Edward said:
The verse is Isaiah 60:1
Arise, shine;
For your light has come!.../

First word; Is this a command? A request? Intercession? What is this. Arise. To me, it has the ring of a command. A call to action? What's that mean? And to shine? How is a believer to shine? What's that mean?

It's a small verse.
Click to expand...
Hi Edward,
To me it also sounds like a command. It's talking about the exiled returning to Jerusalem.
So it's saying that God's glory has risen upon Jerusalem. God's light has risen upon Jerusalem, but the rest of the "world" is wrapped in darkness. So they are to "put their face" into the shining light of God.

Nations will come to the light and kings to the sunburst of brighness.
Isaiah 60:3

This reminds me of two passages:

1. Mathew 5:14-15
Here Jesus tells us that WE are the light of the world. We are to shine and not hide our light, but to let it shine upon all that are in the house. Maybe we soak up God's light so that we can then shine it onto the world? Maybe we're to "get up" and shine?

2. John 1:4-5
John 1:9
Jesus is the light but the dark did not know Him.
But the light of Jesus enlightens every man.
 
Willie T said:
Possibly the same way you just misunderstood my post. LOL

I actually AGREED with your reading of the whole passage (or much of it) in context, as opposed to how the direction the OP seemed to be taking it in with his few words about a few words.
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Yeah you're right...but that brings us back to the 1st verse though. I probably should have posted more first. Glad we cleared that up.

So, Arise, Shine...stand up and shine. Apply the Words of the Lord to our life and begin walking in it. ??
 
wondering said:
Hi Edward,
To me it also sounds like a command. It's talking about the exiled returning to Jerusalem.
So it's saying that God's glory has risen upon Jerusalem. God's light has risen upon Jerusalem, but the rest of the "world" is wrapped in darkness. So they are to "put their face" into the shining light of God.

Nations will come to the light and kings to the sunburst of brighness.
Isaiah 60:3

This reminds me of two passages:

1. Mathew 5:14-15
Here Jesus tells us that WE are the light of the world. We are to shine and not hide our light, but to let it shine upon all that are in the house. Maybe we soak up God's light so that we can then shine it onto the world? Maybe we're to "get up" and shine?

2. John 1:4-5
John 1:9
Jesus is the light but the dark did not know Him.
But the light of Jesus enlightens every man.
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The exiled? Jerusalem? That's probably right for at that time, but it still sounds like it's directed to...well, me. Am I not grafted in?

I think we are to stand up and shine. To reflect the glory of God upon the earth. To shine just like you said. Moses was up the mountain for forty days face to face with God, and when he came back down, he shined and scared the people so veiled his face, lol! So this passage is prolly a type of prophetic shadow of how we are to be in our walk with Him. Not to sit and occupy, but Arise, Shine...right? Makes sense to me.
 
Edward said:
Yeah you're right...but that brings us back to the 1st verse though. I probably should have posted more first. Glad we cleared that up.

So, Arise, Shine...stand up and shine. Apply the Words of the Lord to our life and begin walking in it. ??
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On something like this, to me anyway, it not just a matter of adding the rest of the words to the verse......... but it is doing what we all have learned we are supposed to be doing. And that is reading for the 5 "W"s and the "H" by going backward and forward to at least the full chapter that verse is in... and sometimes, the whole book.
 
Edward said:
The exiled? Jerusalem? That's probably right for at that time, but it still sounds like it's directed to...well, me. Am I not grafted in?

I think we are to stand up and shine. To reflect the glory of God upon the earth. To shine just like you said. Moses was up the mountain for forty days face to face with God, and when he came back down, he shined and scared the people so veiled his face, lol! So this passage is prolly a type of prophetic shadow of how we are to be in our walk with Him. Not to sit and occupy, but Arise, Shine...right? Makes sense to me.
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I think that's what I said!!

I was setting the stage.
But the message is the same as what you're saying.

Moses shined too.
And what about the transfiguration.
Mathew 17:2

Of course all the bible is for all of us.
 
wondering said:
Hi Edward,
To me it also sounds like a command. It's talking about the exiled returning to Jerusalem.
So it's saying that God's glory has risen upon Jerusalem. God's light has risen upon Jerusalem, but the rest of the "world" is wrapped in darkness. So they are to "put their face" into the shining light of God.

Nations will come to the light and kings to the sunburst of brighness.
Isaiah 60:3

This reminds me of two passages:

1. Mathew 5:14-15
Here Jesus tells us that WE are the light of the world. We are to shine and not hide our light, but to let it shine upon all that are in the house. Maybe we soak up God's light so that we can then shine it onto the world? Maybe we're to "get up" and shine?

2. John 1:4-5
John 1:9
Jesus is the light but the dark did not know Him.
But the light of Jesus enlightens every man.
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hello wondering, dirtfarmer here

I think that your interpretation is almost correct. I don't see "we" but the nation of Israel during the promised kingdom that will be established then. The 144,000, 12,000 from each tribe that will be the kingdom of priest that God promised in Exodus 19:6. The "we" at that time will ruling and reigning with Christ after the marriage and marriage feast in heaven.
 
The Bible is for all of us? To what extent? Are we to live by, Oh say..... Deuteronomy 21:18-21?
 
dirtfarmer said:
hello wondering, dirtfarmer here

I think that your interpretation is almost correct. I don't see "we" but the nation of Israel during the promised kingdom that will be established then. The 144,000, 12,000 from each tribe that will be the kingdom of priest that God promised in Exodus 19:6. The "we" at that time will ruling and reigning with Christ after the marriage and marriage feast in heaven.
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Hi Dirtfarmer.
You're saying it refers to the end of time?
It could be a prefiguration of that too.
I can't speak to it, however. I'm really bad with eschatology.

Are you saying priests will exist in the New Kingdom?
 
wondering said:
Willie
Jesus did away with the Civil Law.
NOT the moral law.
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But, unfortunately, many, many people claiming to "follow all of the Bible" pick and choose laws and rules from just about any old section of the book they desire........ as long as the "commands" they select fit what they want others to have to adhere to.
 
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