Bible Study Your takeaway from “The Parable of the Tares”

[Jethro Bodine]

A child of the devil is a devil.

You know what? If you want to shut your eyes to what the Bible plainly says then so be it. You're certainly not the first one to do that in these forums. I think you're too proud to let go of your obviously wrong doctrine.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

A child of the devil is a devil. Devils are not converted nor is there any account in the entirety of scripture where we are shown "devil conversion." It is non-existent. Devils and devils children are NOT turned into Gods Children.

Gods children arise from the planting of the Seed of Christ in the ground. That ground still contains tares, which are the children of the devil aka demons.

Matthew 13:38
The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;

These tares are NOT converted into wheat, but destroyed in the end.

Matthew 13:40
As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

For corn's sake, smaller, it's a parable. Of course tares don't turn into wheat in the field. That's not the subject being addressed.

The point is, bad people--the children of the devil--are identified by their lack of fruit, and are cast into the furnace at the end of the age. While righteous people--the children of God--are identified by their fruit and enter into the kingdom at the end of the age. You've missed the point of the parable entirely.

I think you resist any doctrine that suggests a believer has a responsibility to bear fruit in order to be saved on the Day of Judgment. I really do. You change those teachings in the Bible around in order to rationalize and excuse sin in God's people.

 

[smaller]

You know what? If you want to shut your eyes to what the Bible plainly says then so be it. You're certainly not the first one to do that in these forums. I think you're too proud to let go of your obviously wrong doctrine.

You will be hard pressed to find devil conversion anywhere in the scriptures because it's non-existing NOR is there one single example of a 'tare' being 'turned' into wheat. It doesn't exist.

 

[smaller]

For corn's sake, smaller, it's a parable. Of course tares don't turn into wheat.

That's your claim. That you were a 'tare,' a 'child of the devil or the wicked one' who was turned into a wheat. That never happened.

The incorruptible Seed of Christ was sown in your ground, and there is the wheat that is harvested. No tare, no child of the wicked one, the devil, is EVER converted or turned into a wheat, ever.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

That's your claim. That you were a 'tare,' a 'child of the devil or the wicked one' who was turned into a wheat. That never happened.

The incorruptible Seed of Christ was sown in your ground, and there is the wheat that is harvested. No tare, no child of the wicked one, the devil, is EVER converted or turned into a wheat, ever.

Man, I don't know what boat you got off from, but I used to be in bondage to death, but now I'm not:

"5 For when we were in the realm of the flesh, the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in us, so that we bore fruit for death. 6 But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code." (Romans 7:5-6 NASB)

Maybe you are still in bondage to death, but that doesn't mean you can create your own doctrine about the believer and his struggle with sin to suit your experience and then project it on the rest of us.

 

[smaller]

Man, I don't know what boat you got off from, but I used to be in bondage to death, but now I'm not:

Your claim is that you were a child of the devil, which is a tare. There is no such thing as "tare conversion into wheat" or "devil conversion into God's children," for that matter, anywhere in the scriptures.

Tares, just as Jesus said, will be burned up, in the end. Guaranteed.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Your claim is that you were a child of the devil, which is a tare. There is no such thing as "tare conversion into wheat" or "devil conversion into God's children," for that matter, anywhere in the scriptures.

Tares, just as Jesus said, will be burned up, in the end. Guaranteed.

It's an analogy.
Do you know what an analogy is?
If an analogy had to be 100% congruent with the original there would be no point to using the analogy. You would simply use the reality itself to do that. The analogy is addressing the point it is useful for. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

I'm pretty sure smaller was a child of the devil once, too, obeying the voice of his father the devil. I'm very confident of that. What I hope is that you are no longer that but rather are an adopted son of God obeying his voice now.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Tares, just as Jesus said, will be burned up, in the end. Guaranteed.

Yep, and Jesus says those tares are people:
"those who commit lawlessness, 42 and will throw them into the furnace of fire" (Matthew 13:41-42 NASB)

 

[HalleluYAH]

The grains of "wheat" are symbolic of our Heavenly Father's children. The answer to the question whether we should destroy the tares, or the Kenites. is a definite NO, from Jesus.

We are reminded here of Amos 9:9; "For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all notions, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth." This "House of Israel" are the Christian nations of the world; the Jews are the "House of Judah". These Kenites have so blended in with Christians in our generation, that it is impossible to tell the difference, without seeing into their hearts. God is telling us that at the end of this earth age, at the coming of Jesus Christ, that sifting will take place.

The problem is that while mankind is gathering the tares, that they will damage one of the grains of wheat also. When God does His sifting, there will be no saved souls lost, not one of them.

 

[AirDancer]

This is the Bible Study forum. There is ZERO Debate allowed. Neither is allowed any personal attacks or trolling comments that would be in opposition to our Terms of Service (ToS).

The arguing will cease NOW.

Respect will be shown to the OP topic as well as to each participant.

 

[Sinthesis]

Anytime I hear someone rail against Kenites I worry that they are promoting serpent seed doctrine.

 

[HalleluYAH]

It is God's plan that the Kenites would grow, just as the tares in the parable grew, and come to maturity.