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Any Trekkee's out there?
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Jethro Bodine
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It means 'one hand clapping in the woods...where no one can hear it'.
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KevinK
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In another episode, the gang rescues a people under duress from a Roman-Imperialish persecution. These people are referred to as "Sun Worshippers", until at the end when Uhura corrects them all that they do not worship the "Sun", but the "Son", as in "of God".
Kirk muses what it would have been like to have seen His life story unfold all over again.
Kirk muses what it would have been like to have seen His life story unfold all over again.
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There is a ine given by William Shatner as Captain Kirk in TOS, IIRC, "We don't believe in 'gods'; we find the One sufficient".
I was trying my best to recall what i was sure was some indication of belief in the true God in the series and that was it...Thanks
Maybe some of the cast or whoever suggested GR allow mild Christian Points of view. The show had decent moral standards so, it wouldn't surprise me GR had those as well and would allow views besides his own into the show. That or he was simply trying to target more audiences.
I too like the original...once they start doing all the movies and spinoffs, I can't, nor want to keep up but I do watch reruns of the original still.
I was trying my best to recall what i was sure was some indication of belief in the true God in the series and that was it...Thanks
Maybe some of the cast or whoever suggested GR allow mild Christian Points of view. The show had decent moral standards so, it wouldn't surprise me GR had those as well and would allow views besides his own into the show. That or he was simply trying to target more audiences.
I too like the original...once they start doing all the movies and spinoffs, I can't, nor want to keep up but I do watch reruns of the original still.
I am of the personal opinion Roddenberry grew to think of the Church as the basis for the Borg species. That the cube was fashioned after New Jerusalem and the overall purpose was to assimilate / evangelize the universe. Just a thought.
Someone mentioned the Greek Mythology and telling Hercules to the tune of David and Goliath, but I believe in some form or fashion we (the human race) have God's story in our DNA and we can't help but tell it over and over in many different ways and many different forms. Our super heroes mimic aspects of Christ even to the ability to fly. Some have taken Superman and did a Christian study of it using even the name of his alias Clark Kent as having religious significance.
Someone mentioned the Greek Mythology and telling Hercules to the tune of David and Goliath, but I believe in some form or fashion we (the human race) have God's story in our DNA and we can't help but tell it over and over in many different ways and many different forms. Our super heroes mimic aspects of Christ even to the ability to fly. Some have taken Superman and did a Christian study of it using even the name of his alias Clark Kent as having religious significance.
If you think about it, anything too far from the norm... too alien for us to comprehend it would not be entertaining. Like this example...
Two robots and a human were in a break room at lunch. One robot shows the other a series of 1s and 0s in a printout and the two burst out laughing. The human sees the printout and scratches their head saying "I don't get it."
Two robots and a human were in a break room at lunch. One robot shows the other a series of 1s and 0s in a printout and the two burst out laughing. The human sees the printout and scratches their head saying "I don't get it."
I always thought of this as a bone Hollywood / Star Trek and Company threw to the Christian majority in the American audience at the time. But I applaud this and the reference to belief in the one God by the Kirk character. By the time TNG and the ST movies came out there didn't seem to be as much of a Christian majority in America to appease. And the humanist base of the series / franchise did show more vividly.
Who Mourns for Adonis?
The Ultimate Computer (M-5 speaks of the moral laws of God and man).
I have tried to submit several Star Trek reboot ideas that Jonathan Frakes (unofficially) said were worthy of trying to get copyrighted.
The premise being the amount of time and familiarity with Trek it needs to get out into a bigger arena (the universe) using technology originally invented to return Spock Prime to his own timeline and mend the fractured timeline that produced bad endings that were otherwise good endings of missions / episodes.
I shut down the blogs I recorded them at. Maybe I can revive them and share them here.
Here's a billboard I designed.
Found an excerpt I wrote.
Two things that never occurred to Spock Prime, that his own people would hold him responsible for what Nero did to their home world, and that he would soon be the most wanted man in the universe. An assassination attempt was foiled by Sarek. As the father of his counterpart leaned over the unconscious assassin, he looked up into the eyes of his son's counterpart a Vulcan more advance in years than he.
"You do not belong here. We do not want you here. You are not my son, but I will give you advice. Leave at once. The people have paid such a high price. I have paid such a high price. My son has paid such a high price. And you!" Sarek pointed an angry finger at Spock. "You are the one who brought this hell down upon us."
Sarek, this Sarek, was not his father. For events in the timeline had been altered for over a quarter century. And the loss of the Vulcan home world was something his own father never knew. It is not only the persons we are that make us interrelated it is what we experience together. DNA testing would prove in courts of law that the seventy-five year old Sarek was the father of the two hundred twenty nine year old Spock. A paradox of time-space. But that was the only way they were truly related.
Sarek, this Sarek, did not wait until the end of his life to experience his emotions despite what the Vulcan codes demanded. Sarek, the other Sarek, Spock Prime's father found his emotions when his son was lost in the Genesis project and when Bendite syndrome took over at the end of his life. This Sarek was angry, yet compassionate. He would have allowed the assassin to carry out his mission if he went strictly by his emotions. But logic and compassion put him in harm's way and only the admiration of the assassin for his standing in the Vulcan council gave him the edge to render the young Vulcan unconscious.
"I said GO!"
This was not his father. Yet somehow... he was. And his life saving rejection was bitter sweet and hurt the aged Vulcan. He studied the man's face and turned and walked out of the room. Sarek, his Sarek, gave him the same talk this Sarek gave his son about being a child of two worlds. In this timeline, his world was destroyed and now his new colonial world rejected him.
Admiral Nogura of Starfleet Command had approached Spock with a proposal which he quickly refused. He took a solemn oath not to corrupt the timeline any further with his knowledge of the future and tactical weaponry and technological advances. Nogura made him an offer he found very tempting, but getting the Vulcan Colony settled and established was highest priority on his agenda. Now... not so much.
The Fabrini home world long abandoned by a people who thought it would be swept up into the great barrier at the heart of the galaxy was discovered intact by a Vulcan expedition headed by lead scientist Koss. A renown member of the Vulcan council and science community. When his home world was destroyed, he abandoned the expedition along with his Vulcan colleagues as went to the Vulcan colony to establish and build it. Koss reluctantly turned the expedition over to the Federation Secret Service to secure the find and pick the replacement expedition of scientists and engineers.
Nogura offered Spock Prime lead scientist position there. Until recent events in the Vulcan colony, it was not a consideration no matter how much it intrigued him. He and the James Kirk of his timeline encountered the cleverly disguised space ark built by the Fabrini... Yonada.
Two things that never occurred to Spock Prime, that his own people would hold him responsible for what Nero did to their home world, and that he would soon be the most wanted man in the universe. An assassination attempt was foiled by Sarek. As the father of his counterpart leaned over the unconscious assassin, he looked up into the eyes of his son's counterpart a Vulcan more advance in years than he.
"You do not belong here. We do not want you here. You are not my son, but I will give you advice. Leave at once. The people have paid such a high price. I have paid such a high price. My son has paid such a high price. And you!" Sarek pointed an angry finger at Spock. "You are the one who brought this hell down upon us."
Sarek, this Sarek, was not his father. For events in the timeline had been altered for over a quarter century. And the loss of the Vulcan home world was something his own father never knew. It is not only the persons we are that make us interrelated it is what we experience together. DNA testing would prove in courts of law that the seventy-five year old Sarek was the father of the two hundred twenty nine year old Spock. A paradox of time-space. But that was the only way they were truly related.
Sarek, this Sarek, did not wait until the end of his life to experience his emotions despite what the Vulcan codes demanded. Sarek, the other Sarek, Spock Prime's father found his emotions when his son was lost in the Genesis project and when Bendite syndrome took over at the end of his life. This Sarek was angry, yet compassionate. He would have allowed the assassin to carry out his mission if he went strictly by his emotions. But logic and compassion put him in harm's way and only the admiration of the assassin for his standing in the Vulcan council gave him the edge to render the young Vulcan unconscious.
"I said GO!"
This was not his father. Yet somehow... he was. And his life saving rejection was bitter sweet and hurt the aged Vulcan. He studied the man's face and turned and walked out of the room. Sarek, his Sarek, gave him the same talk this Sarek gave his son about being a child of two worlds. In this timeline, his world was destroyed and now his new colonial world rejected him.
Admiral Nogura of Starfleet Command had approached Spock with a proposal which he quickly refused. He took a solemn oath not to corrupt the timeline any further with his knowledge of the future and tactical weaponry and technological advances. Nogura made him an offer he found very tempting, but getting the Vulcan Colony settled and established was highest priority on his agenda. Now... not so much.
The Fabrini home world long abandoned by a people who thought it would be swept up into the great barrier at the heart of the galaxy was discovered intact by a Vulcan expedition headed by lead scientist Koss. A renown member of the Vulcan council and science community. When his home world was destroyed, he abandoned the expedition along with his Vulcan colleagues as went to the Vulcan colony to establish and build it. Koss reluctantly turned the expedition over to the Federation Secret Service to secure the find and pick the replacement expedition of scientists and engineers.
Nogura offered Spock Prime lead scientist position there. Until recent events in the Vulcan colony, it was not a consideration no matter how much it intrigued him. He and the James Kirk of his timeline encountered the cleverly disguised space ark built by the Fabrini... Yonada.
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jasonc
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gr didn't write the borg. that was another writer
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is Spoks's Vulcan hand sign
Live Long And Prosper
If you do not understand those, then we will be expecting you to turn in your Trekkie membership cards at the end of tonight's meeting.
From Wikipedia
Star Trek is an American science fiction entertainment franchise created by Gene Roddenberry and under the ownership of CBS and Paramount.[Note 1] Star Trek: The Original Series and its live action TV spin-off shows, Star Trek: The Next Generation, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, Star Trek: Voyager, and Star Trek: Enterprise as well as the Star Trek film series make up the main canon. The canonicity of Star Trek: The Animated Series is debated, and the expansive library of Star Trek novels and comics is generally considered non-canon, although still part of the franchise
[Captain Kirk, one of the lead characters was played by William Shatner, and another lead character was played by the late Leonard Lemoy, who portrayed Dr. Spock]
The first series, now referred to as The Original Series, debuted in 1966 and ran for three seasons on NBC. It followed the interstellar adventures of James T. Kirk and the crew of the starship Enterprise, an exploration vessel of a 23rd-century interstellar "United Federation of Planets". In creating the first "Star Trek", Roddenberry was inspired by Westerns such as Wagon Train, along with the Horatio Hornblower novels and Gulliver's Travels. In fact, the original show was almost titled, 'Wagon Train to the Stars.' These adventures continued in the short-lived Star Trek: The Animated Series and six feature films. Four spin-off television series were eventually produced: Star Trek: The Next Generation, followed the crew of a new starship Enterprise set a century after the original series; Star Trek: Deep Space Nine and Star Trek: Voyager, set contemporaneously with The Next Generation; and Star Trek: Enterprise, set before the original series, in the early days of human interstellar travel. Four additional The Next Generation feature films were produced. In 2009, the film franchise underwent a relaunch with a prequel to the original series set in an alternate timeline titled simply Star Trek. This film featured a new cast portraying younger versions of the crew from the original show.[Note 3] A sequel to this film, Star Trek Into Darkness, premiered on May 16, 2013. A thirteenth theatrical feature, the next sequel to Into Darkness, has been confirmed for release in July 2016, to coincide with the franchise's 50th anniversary.
Star Wars. Former Star Wars nerd, still a fan. Close enough?
KevinK
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Where'd this quote come from? Leonard's last name was Nimoy, and the character he played was Mr. Spock, not Dr. Spock (who was a real-life child doctor not connected with the show).