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Yes, really. The person who continues in his faith in Christ is the one who has his feet washed by that faith.
No, you are the one flailing. You're grasping for these absurd arguments to frustrate the obvious fact that the person who has dirty feet and submits to Christ for the washing of those dirty feet never loses or effects the completeness of his whole body clean that he has before, during, and after that foot washing (John 13:10).
No, you misunderstand. The dirty footed person is not, by virtue of his dirty feet, the one who lacks faith. The dirty footed person is the believer who is washed in the blood and is completely clean (John 13:10), but who has the stain of his daily sins. The one who lacks faith is the one who doesn't submit to the washing away of those daily sins. His lack of faith to seek the washing of his daily sins is what puts him in jeopardy of losing the cleanliness of his whole body in Christ, not the fact that he has dirty feet.
Because God is gracious. The person may one day heed God's calling the unrepentant 'believer' back to himself. God decides when the wayward 'believer' who stops seeking the cleansing of daily sin is beyond hope. Not you and me.
No, Christ is essentially telling Peter he has to continue in faith--the faith that got his whole body clean. It is the failure to continue in the faith that justifies, as signified in the unwillingness to submit to the cleansing of daily sin, that will eventually result in the loss of his whole body cleaning that he has.
Judas is the one who is not completely clean in his whole body to begin with ("but not all of you"-vs.10). He can't continue in a faith and total body cleansing that he doesn't even have in the first place.
No, you misunderstand. The dirty feet symbolizes the daily sin of the "completely clean" (vs. 10) believer. The lack of faith is symbolized in not submitting to the washing of those dirty feet, not in the having of dirty feet. The goal posts are exactly where they were in the beginning.
The washing of the feet of the completely clean person does mean having your daily struggle with sin cleansed (1 John 1:9). The person who stops having faith in Christ is the one who stops seeking that cleansing of the feet in their daily walk with Christ. The person who continues in his faith in Christ is the one who continues to seek the cleansing of their feet in their daily walk with Christ. The seeking, or the not seeking being what determines if that person continues in Christ or not, not the fact that the feet have been dirtied.
Well, I've shown you that actually what happened is you did not understand the argument properly. And now that I've explained it thoroughly for you to understand you can now explain how the dirty footed believer does lose his completely clean status just by virtue of his feet getting dirty. I said that, from the text, we see that a loss of completely clean status (losing one's place in Christ) can only happen if the dirty footed person refuses to submit to the cleaning of his feet, not because his feet got dirty in the first place as your doctrine says but which clearly contradicts what Jesus says.
I did, but you rejected it. You rejecting it doesn't mean I didn't explain it.
Sigh...Again, of course it's by faith we come to Jesus, but we must have our daily sins removed or we "have no part with" Christ, which means loss of justification. You are forcing "faith" into verses that don't even deal with faith. You have Jesus saying that believers must have "daily sins removed" or lose justification, then in the next breath, saying but you are totally justified, despite daily sins. No matter how you slice it, it's contradictory. This is not fun anymore...
lets not get off track guys