turnorburn
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Do you mean the land of Israel?
Or spiritual Israel which turns out to be all born again bible believing Christians
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Interpretation of the Two Beasts and Prostitute of Babylon of Revelation - Summary
Do you mean the land of Israel?
Or spiritual Israel which turns out to be all born again bible believing Christians
Gen_32:28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.
Exo_4:22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:
Gen_46:8 And these are the names of the children of Israel, which came into Egypt, Jacob and his sons: Reuben, Jacob's firstborn.
Exo_4:22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:
Gen_46:8 And these are the names of the children of Israel, which came into Egypt, Jacob and his sons: Reuben, Jacob's firstborn.
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Sinthesis
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Israel is a type.
jasonc
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Land ,rocks,rivers.mountains.but never the jews and Hebrews that dwell all over.thar is if I take it the futurist way
Is the country we today call Israel the land promised to Abe?
If the promise of the Land was forever why do they have to get back?
They do not have the Land of the covenant it is this
Gen 15:18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:
If the promise of the Land was forever why do they have to get back?
They do not have the Land of the covenant it is this
Gen 15:18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:
jasonc
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Yes in part, but if they were holy.but does the word olam,if used,mean forever in that context.
What's your point?
The truth is that Jerusalem is the center of the world, and it belongs to the Jews.
jasonc
Member
No.and Im going to say if Rollo is right then I don't need Jesus as well the temple is still holy.
It can never be holy again or the place where we can be closest to the Father
Yes they do.
It's in Jerusalem.
We're not talking East and West Berlin here.
Get a hold of yourself.
jasonc
Member
The nation of isreal doesn't control the temple mount.if they do then why do I have the wailing wall as a memento as a token of my grandparents visit to isreal?
I don't need to google it.
You need to google it.
Whose army surrounds the temple mount when a fight breaks out?
If an earthquake destroys the temple mount, are the muslims going to march into Jerusalem and rebuild it?
No!
And for one very good reason; they don't control the property it is on because it belongs to Israel.
I'm surprised you highly intelligent people don't understand these things.
Or maybe it's just not part of your agenda.
Maybe it conflicts with what you choose to believe.
Who has control of the land... from Gen_15:18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:
the people are the nation,
Maybe something from American History can ex[plane
I am sure you know the story of the Trail of Tears...
The Cherokee nation were moved to Oklahoma... the people
The covenant with Abraham was conditioned on obedience.
If i list the Scripture will you read them?
the people are the nation,
Maybe something from American History can ex[plane
I am sure you know the story of the Trail of Tears...
The Cherokee nation were moved to Oklahoma... the people
The covenant with Abraham was conditioned on obedience.
If i list the Scripture will you read them?
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jasonc
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The nation of isreal if they tried to take it.well most of the arabs would Start a war.they don't have the west bank.which Jerusalem borders.
smaller
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Pretty sure that if the whole story was about that little spot of ground there in the middle east that God has had the power to take that back any old time He pleased to do so. To me this is somewhat preposterous sight.
Perhaps a more interesting picture is that God set His people on that ground, surrounded by enemies, to show us things that are more interesting. But first shows them in the natural. Far more likely.
Perhaps a more interesting picture is that God set His people on that ground, surrounded by enemies, to show us things that are more interesting. But first shows them in the natural. Far more likely.
You two are both preterists!!!!!
smaller
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Who are you talking to?
I know everything there is to know about the end time from the google site for eschatology, giggle.