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When I asked my wife to baptize me in the swimming pool, I had wondered ....once or thrice?......after prayer, study, thought...we both chose once.The big question is should it dunk 1----2----or 3 times?
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When I asked my wife to baptize me in the swimming pool, I had wondered ....once or thrice?......after prayer, study, thought...we both chose once.The big question is should it dunk 1----2----or 3 times?
which takes place the moment we get savedThe baptism in the Spirit is a real thing
ekk put on the brakes that redas like i meant i thought it was no longer... i wondered why i had reply like that.... MY BAD by no means is it over .. many say the baptism of the spirit is speaking in tongues .i m o the baptism is the spiritual birth baptized into the Body tongues are a gift from the spiritimo the baptism of the spirit is over ....not sure what word to use.. the Bible says
1 Corinthians 12:13King James Version (KJV)
13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. which happens at the new birth i think some feel they hold the patent to the Holy spirit the still small voice the comforter as one who walks along beside us.. then the spirit of truth
There is a difference between belief in Christ and baptism into the Spirit. I cannot say I understand it, but Paul encountered some "disciples" that had been baptized into repentance. Can read about it in Acts 19.which takes place the moment we get saved
ekk put on the brakes that redas like i meant i thought it was no longer... i wondered why i had reply like that.... MY BAD by no means is it over .. many say the baptism of the spirit is speaking in tongues .i m o the baptism is the spiritual birth baptized into the Body tongues are a gift from the spirit
the moment we get save we have in indwelling presence of the spirit. no spirit no Christ --no salvation. i agree to some extent on bad spirit, i drove by a church sign that read forbidden fruits creates many jams this can be referenced through Romans 6 . our mind has to be trained imo comes through prayer meditation of the word and discipline...obedience which is something we all have trouble with i by far do i have this all packaged up and can say i have no problem in this area . we are and always will be a W.I.P work in progress changed from glory to glory
which takes place the moment we get saved
ekk put on the brakes that redas like i meant i thought it was no longer... i wondered why i had reply like that.... MY BAD by no means is it over .. many say the baptism of the spirit is speaking in tongues .i m o the baptism is the spiritual birth baptized into the Body tongues are a gift from the spirit
It's one God.When I asked my wife to baptize me in the swimming pool, I had wondered ....once or thrice?......after prayer, study, thought...we both chose once.
Hi Ezra. I may be different from the rest of the pack, I don't know. When I was in Bible College, I had a part time job working in a gas station, owned by a Christian man. He allowed me to work on my studies while attending the gas pumps, what a blessing.
One night while I was studying, a force came on me that I'd never experienced before. It was an intense warm glow of a wonderful feeling that started in my guts and spread thru ought my body. I knew it was something from the Spirit of God, but didn't understand it. After a few minutes (I guess) I asked God to stop because I felt I would explode. The feeling subsided.
I asked a Pentecostal student about this and He said it was the Holy Spirit. I never felt it again until around 1990-1991 in Florida. I have told this story many times in the Forum, so just to say that the feeling came back for four days. Since then I've discovered that God Himself Baptized me in His Holy Spirit. God had to do it Himself because as a Baptist, I didn't trust Pentecostals.
Because of this Baptism, my whole life and ministry changed dramatically. Therefore I believe in a second work of God other than the Baptism of the Holy Spirit at Salvation, which placed me into the family of Believers in Christ Jesus....As I said, I may have been different from most Christians & Pastors. This event, I'll never forget, it was the most wonderful feeling that I've ever felt and experienced.
One of the results of this Baptism was a tremendous love that came into my heart for fellow Believers that I'd been praying for, that was lacking in my life. There was also a huge boldness to witness to the unsaved the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and many came to Jesus as a result. There was a power in my preaching and witnessing that was absent before. Just saying!
Hi Runner,Bingo. We don't have the mind of Christ. When we get out of our own way, which we seldom do, the Holy Spirit can work through us. Pretending we have the mind of Christ, trying to act Christ-like, is the problem 75% of the time. (Not even pretending or trying is the problem the other 25%.) The fruit of the Spirit is the evidence the Spirit is working through you, period. There is no other sense in which we "have the mind of Christ."
"Rejoice always; pray without ceasing; in everything give thanks; for this is God’s will for you in Christ Jesus." 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18 (NASB). This is probably the best way to get out of our own way.
Hi Runner,
Just one comment on what you wrote:
I feel like it's the opposite!
The problem is that 75% of Christians are NOT trying to act like Christ!
Isn't that the whole point of His coming here to us? To show us what we're to do to belong to the Kingdom?
I don't believe anyone here is saying they actually h ave the mind of Christ, but he was supposed to be our example.
Don't you think that if 75% of Christians acted like Christ, we'd be living in a different and better world??
Amen.We are called to put on the mind of Christ. I suppose there are different ways of looking at what that means. To me it suggests to think like Him. To have His priorities in mind (the Kingdom) and to develop, through actions, a servant's heart. Thoughts?
Well said. :amenAmen.
Absolutely.
As I posted in no. 11 and 12, what you say above is how I also understand having the mind of Christ. Especially to have His priorities in mind, the Kingdom - to promote the Kingdom. This can be done exactly by having a servants heart.
I like to think that we're God's hands and feet. We're in this earthly world and can work here - God is in a different dimenstion and He's not going to be working miracles every moment of the day. WE are to be His miracle workers.
How?
Maybe by being good parents.
Maybe by helping someone in need, be it material or emotional.
It could be just listening to the problems of a friend and giving encouragment instead of feeding them courses of action that would only make the situation worse.
Maybe being good children and helping parents in need.
Anything we do that is good and for God will promote His Kingdom.
This is a servant's heart -- it could be the simplest thing.
Creating good instead of evil.
Helping someone to feel good about himself, or something, instead of letting them feel badly about themselves.
Jesus cried over Jerusalem. He saw how evil affected everything in life, He felt sorry for how humans made in the image of God were suffering - from the Pharisees, from the Romans, from evil in general.
I believe we are called to have the mind of Christ.
Romans 8:19-22
Romans 12:2
I'm curious Chopper, have you ever met someone who knew they had the baptism of the Holy Spirit but has never 'felt' it in a physical way?
Hi Nathan. Yes I have. Unfortunately, my Pentecostal Brothers have distorted the Baptism in the Holy Spirit a little. They teach that tongues is the sign of the baptism and it's not. I didn't speak in tongues until 3 or 4 months passed. There are many other gifts of the Holy Spirit now that manifest thru the Baptism, one new one for me was a supernatural love that I didn't have before.
The Baptism in the Holy Spirit is God's work and it can come with no physical effects. FAITH is the reception mode. You pray for the Baptism IN the Holy Spirit for what the book of Acts describes it's for. Witnessing with power. In order to minister to the unsaved, you need the ministry of the Holy Spirit to minister thru you, that's what the Baptism is all about.
I'd be happy to answer any of your questions. I sense that you feel you have the Baptism, but no physical indication, right?
As a person born and raised Penticostal .. GREAT post Chopper
Right, kind of. I know I have the baptism , not just feel. And yes, there is no physical indication that is usually associated with it at least.
I was just curious if you had come across some before. I'm happy to hear that you are not close minded like that. (not that I thought you were)
I agree Nathan. When my Wife Jennie was diagnosed with terminal breast cancer, as a Baptist, I was lost as how to pray for her to be healed other than "Lord Your will be done." That's when I joined myself with the "Deliverance Center" in Portland, Maine. Brother James Reynolds Sr. was a holiness Pentecostal Pastor/Teacher and Evangelist. His healing ministry was quite famous in that part of Maine.I was brought up Charismatic, learned Baptist ways in my older years. My mother still goes to a charismatic church so tounges are not foreign to me.
I do know, from my younger days, that indeed a lot of the Charismatic Movement kind of ruined it for a lot of people. It's just something you have to understand happened and move on. I know that none of us can stop The Spirit when He chooses to move on His people.
Hi Runner,
Just one comment on what you wrote:
I feel like it's the opposite!
The problem is that 75% of Christians are NOT trying to act like Christ!
Isn't that the whole point of His coming here to us? To show us what we're to do to belong to the Kingdom?
I don't believe anyone here is saying they actually h ave the mind of Christ, but he was supposed to be our example.
Don't you think that if 75% of Christians acted like Christ, we'd be living in a different and better world??
Runner this is a Bible Study... There are other forums available for your postingsYou've moved the goal post. The world would indeed be better and different if 75% of Christians "acted" like Christ, which they would if the Holy Spirit were guiding their actions. In reality, 75% are "trying" and "pretending" to act like Christ, which is a different animal and does not work at all. The net result is "Christianity," not Christianity, and what you get is the world we have. (You may be right that I have the percentages backwards. It may be that 25% are trying and pretending, while 75% are not even trying or pretending.)