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It is my understanding that they are the same.What is the difference between God's eternal law found in the Torah
and the Law of Moses, which is also found in the Torah...
Is one temporary?
Is one more important (to man)?
Why?
The first was the result of man coming to know the difference in good and evil; Gen 3:22.What is the difference between God's eternal law found in the Torah
and the Law of Moses, which is also found in the Torah...
2Co 3:7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:Is one temporary?
Even Moses could not obey the law's demands, was told to go up and die as the result in Deut 32:50. Does God have better for us?Why?
What is the difference between God's eternal law found in the Torah
and the Law of Moses, which is also found in the Torah...
Is one temporary?
Is one more important (to man)?
Why?
They're one and the same. The law of God is called the law of Moses because Moses received the law on Mt.Sinai. He is not the giver of the law. He was the receiver.
Christians are not under the penalty of the Mitzvot. More than 10 commands, which are moral codes still applicable because they speak of our conduct toward others and God. But rather 613 laws comprised the Mitzvot, or Law of God in the OT .
Judaism 101: A List of the 613 Mitzvot (Commandments)
Two comments.The Torah is a reference to the first five books of the Bible and is referred to as the law, and was written by Moses.
The Old Testament, as we call it, is primarily composed of the law, the prophets and the psalms, along with what some call, "the writings", which would be like proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Job.
Also, as you are aware of, there is the apocrypha.
The law of Moses is also referred to as the law.
The context is what determines which is being referred to.
When the author couples the law together with the prophets, then it is most often, a reference to the Torah.
Example: Torah
Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. Matthew 5:17
The Law in this verse is a reference to the Torah, the first five books of the Bible.
Jesus uses the law of Moses, specifically in this case to clarify.
Then He said to them, “These are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me.”
Luke 24:44
Example: law of Moses
17 And this I say, that the law, which was four hundred and thirty years later, cannot annul the covenant that was confirmed before by God in Christ, that it should make the promise of no effect. 18 For if the inheritance is of the law, it is no longer of promise; but God gave it to Abraham by promise.19 What purpose then does the law serve? It was added because of transgressions, till the Seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was appointed through angels by the hand of a mediator. 20 Now a mediator does not mediate for one only, but God is one.
Galatians 3:17-19
Paul is contrasting the Abrahamic Covenant and the promises, with the law of Moses.
The law of Moses was "added" to the Abrahamic Covenant, not the Torah.
This is how we use the context, to determine (in most cases) which law is being referred to.
Thanks. Great topic.
JLB
Were not some of the 613 laws added by the religious leaders that were not part of the original commands after the giving of the law? Man made law not of God? God never numbered 613 laws. Many of the law are just for priest (Matt. 15:1-9) (Luke 15:1-6)They're one and the same. The law of God is called the law of Moses because Moses received the law on Mt.Sinai. He is not the giver of the law. He was the receiver.
Christians are not under the penalty of the Mitzvot. More than 10 commands, which are moral codes still applicable because they speak of our conduct toward others and God. But rather 613 laws comprised the Mitzvot, or Law of God in the OT .
Judaism 101: A List of the 613 Mitzvot (Commandments)
some believe the New Covenant replaces the Mosaic when instead it adds to it, making it better.
Mitzvah: A CommandmentWere not some of the 613 laws added by the religious leaders that were not part of the original commands after the giving of the law? Man made law not of God? God never numbered 613 laws. Many of the law are just for priest (Matt. 15:1-9) (Luke 15:1-6)
no, they aren't as the mosaic law incorporated the early commands of God. remember the torah also incuded a diet, a command to partake in several feasts with death for those that didn't and also the Sabbath. of that I don't have to rest on the shabat, I can ignore the feasts of Passover, tabernacles and others that have the penalty.It is my understanding that they are the same.
It is also my understanding that they are the same. The way God wants people to interact with each other is universal.What is the difference between God's eternal law found in the Torah
and the Law of Moses, which is also found in the Torah...
Is one temporary?
Is one more important (to man)?
Why?
I know that...did you read my post? God did not write 613 laws....Israel added them.(Matt. 15:1-9) (Luke 15:1-6) (Mark 10:1-9) Christ did not approve of many of them.
If it were possible (but it is not for man) to follow the Ten Commandment's Holy Commands by Spiritual fiat, there would be no need to add 613 addendum's to the Ten Commandments. For all of the Law in it's Spiritual context is to love the Lord and your neighbor without exceptions. or ( without ever using the conjunction "but".)There are laws (commandments) that were especially written just for the Hebrews pertaining to the rituals of the Temple, sacrifices, festivals, Torah, Kohanim and Levites, the King and the Nazarite and then there are the existing moral laws (commandments) for all of us to still follow as in prayers and blessings, love and brotherhood, the poor and unfortunate, treatment of the Gentiles, Marriage, divorce and family, forbidden sexual relations, business practices, employees and servants, vows, oaths, swearing, Court and Judicial procedures, injuries and damages, property and property rights, Criminal laws, prophecy, idolatry and all its practices as the moral laws (commandments) keep us in line with the will of God that we present ourselves a vessel of honor that God delights in as we allow the light of Christ shine in us and through us as a testimony of Gods grace and mercy as it is not ourselves that do any good thing, but Gods Spirit working in us and through us as we surrender our will to that of Gods will to be done.
Did you read the article I linked so as to answer your previous question?I know that...did you read my post? God did not write 613 laws....Israel added them.(Matt. 15:1-9) (Luke 15:1-6) (Mark 10:1-9) Christ did not approve of many of them.
Yes, What did I miss?Did you read the article I linked so as to answer your previous question?
Are you saying that the Law of Moses was done away with and The Law of Jesus is not in operation?The first was the result of man coming to know the difference in good and evil; Gen 3:22.
It killed because mankind could not adhere to its obligations as Jesus did. It was called the "Ministration of Death."
2Co 3:7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
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Gal 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law.
Gal 4:5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
Gal 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
Eternal law - Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Even Moses could not obey the law's demands, was told to go up and die as the result in Deut 32:50. Does God have better for us?
2Co 3:7 But if the ministration of death (Ten Commandments), written and engraven in stones, was glorious, . . . . which glory was to be done away:Are you saying that the Law of Moses was done away with?
No, the ministration of the Spirit is in operation to us which are in Christ.Are you saying that The Law of Jesus is not in operation?
Dear Sister wondering, knowing that Jesus is the end of the law to all that believe, what do you believe? Rom 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.Many say that since the resurrection, the Law of Moses has been abolished.