Again you seem to be agree with my points in scripture yet reject the truth of those same scriptures?
Reject what scriptures? Neither Law or Grace can or ever will be for and behalf of sin.
Christ Jesus ALONE has fulfilled the Law. We who walk by His Spirit will also fulfill what the Law required.
It is not then Christ alone, but Christ in us, with us. There is a bit of departure in the Christ alone axiom then isn't there? You say Christ alone yet include the 'we.'
Mat 5:17
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Luk 24:27
And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
Joh 1:16
And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.
Joh 1:17
For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
Joh 5:39
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
Not really sure how any of that pertains to the observations prior.
The first questions that should be observed to any thinking believer is
how is it that Paul puts forth fulfilling the Law in ourselves by the Spirit of Christ in us, yet simultaneously himself admitting being the chief of sinners.
Therein lies the heart of this matter and the essence of understanding the surface dichotomies of all scripture.
The very first discovery of Paul in relationship with the law on a personal scale was an internal and adverse reaction within himself when met with the law:
Romans 7:
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But
sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
As Paul steps us through these matters in Romans 7 he identifies that the sin indwelling him IS NOT HIM. Yet it still dwelt in him.
20 Now if I do that I would not,
it is no more I that do it,
but sin that dwelleth in me.
This fact continued with Paul all the days of his life. The presence of sin indwelling us maintains a constant adverse relationship with The Law. And this does not change post salvation.
Paul ultimately comes to this conclusion for himself. And it is an important conclusion to make 'personally.'
21 I find then
a law, that, when I would do good,
evil is present with me.
God does not bless the evil, the sin or the workings of evil within any of us.
What does this lead you to conclude?
Was Paul evil?
Jesus does provide the ultimate insight in this matter of the human heart and condition. Paul understood and accepted this principle of Jesus in all his understandings.
Mark 4:15
And these are they by the way side,
where the word is sown; but when they have heard,
Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown
in their hearts.
Believers who accept and believe what Jesus says happens, understands that the evil present with us is a cause of the adversary, and there is the evil that we are to divide from, even while we ourselves remain under ASSAULT within from that adversary.
Those who say this does not happen to them WITHIN are engaged in providing excuses and coverups for the enemy of our souls.
Yet nary a believer cares to connect the dots of their own sin with the devil and instead are led to the understanding that it is only them involved.
Fact is, it's not.
In the equation that Paul provides the evil present with him was and remained utterly condemned. But Paul was not that evil present. The ADVERSARY was.
One of the two in that equation was saved. The other, always condemned.
Part of the Hope of the Gospel is for the final eradication of our adversary.
In Romans 9 Paul lays out this case for himself rather succinctly and adroitly of him as a child of God and the evil present which is of the adversary. It is a basic extension of Romans 7 and it is personally applied to Paul:
Romans 9:
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made
me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of
the same lump to make
one vessel unto honour, and
another unto dishonour?
It is to the vessel of dishonor that we all have in our own lump of flesh that we are called to divide from. If any believer does not think they have such a vessel, an adversary internal to divide from, again Paul makes the case that this is so:
2 Tim. 2:
20 But
in a great house there are not only
vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some
to honour, and some
to dishonour.
21
If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.
There is the dividing line.
For those who do not believe they have a vessel of dishonor to divide and to purge from, they are at this time simply not aware of their factual state and think themselves only the good vessel without the other, the workings of the adversary within them.
It is a somewhat hard place to go and most won't and can't,
nor do I expect that to happen or be understood.
Those who are called into honesty within themselves however will be made know the truth of it from the Spirit of Christ.
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