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You definitely won't get bored talking to her, lol.

That's why I befriended her -- she's one of a kind, and intelligent, too! Don't know why she's so hard on herself, but I guess rather lean toward the humble side than prideful.

I won't take a serious turn on this thread, but as a touch of humor back in the days (almost 30 years ago) I got my nieces presents, they still believed in Santa. So whenever I got them gifts but wanted the rest to know who it was from, I just put, "From Santimclause". Close enough to look like "Santa Clause" to young girls who could barely read.
 
motherly instincts in they will see things long before a man would will with relationships. monica told me that the girl liked Nathan long before Nathan took notice. I have learned to trust that type of instincts. my wife will mention when a woman flirts with me and I don't see it. men are that stupid at times. most of my wifes issues with her body are from work not age. she worked her right arm to its current state and her back from that as well.

Your wife worked in a job that wasn't good for her physical health. But those kinds of problems happen to men, too. On the other hand many women have worked under tough coditions (stay-at-home-moms are historically an exception, most women in history had to work on their fields or support their husband's manufactory or workshop, and housekeeping was a physically demanding job in past century's too) and didn't experience big physical damage.
People shouldn't have to work in a job they aren't made for. Some women are made to be marines or lumber jacks, while some men get ill as soon as it's colder than zero celsius.
Also many women struggle with mother instincts. It's not as natural as you think. I have a poor sense for other people and I for sure won't notice when a guy is flirting with me. If it works well for your wife she's lucky, but I tell you women have to learn social competences like men do, some are more talented than others, and usually girls get more encouraged to do things that help learning social competence than guys, but it's not as natural as you think.
I'm a very socially untalented woman, most men I meet are better at handling people and relationships than I am.

hormones for a man is different. do men have large amounts of testerone or estrogen? do our breasts produce milk? do our ovaries drop eggs? oh yeah. we don't have an ovum nor uterus nor vagina. we have a penis. what I call the second brain. with Nathan. and boys in general. when we have them in church the boys will run before class and play. the girls in general at the same age wont. yes younger they do. that isn't taught to them. just nature. are there exceptions? yes!
Men and women have both estrogene and testosterone, and both have largely similar effects on our bodies and our behaviour.
The difference is that men are more on the testosterone side and women on the estrogene side. In general the hormonal system of men and women has more in common than differences.
While male and female genitals are different they are made from the same tissue during the embryonal growth. The female clitoris is basically a penis, just a lot smaller. It also works in a very similar way.

now then unto the briefing. from what I recall as it was over 20 plus years ago and im not jag lawyer on this stuff
1) go to a bar and german female next to you might be a minor despite her chest size. poke it and and its the case the army will let you rot in the german prison as theres Is nothing you can do
2) german girls like gis for their money they will cheat on their husbands to get things from you or bf or just date you to come here. seen that all to many times.
3) if you marry them be sure they are true.
Whoa that's a load of sexist and "racist" (if you can call that racist since being German is not a race) bull dung.
Maybe 20 years ago things were different. The western parts of Germany used to be a bit more backward in gender equality terms than the GDR, so I can imagine those gold diggers existed more than they do now and more than in the eastern part of the country. But I'd guess it's really an outdated advise. Like Mike S said, after the war there may have been a lot of hopeless women that were happy about a way out of the destroyed country. But it's not like that any more. What I can imagine is that there is a *small* number of women that dream of emmigrating to the USA but don't see a chance to get a green card or a job over there, thus they choose the way of getting married to an American. That may happen, but I suppose it doesn't happen a lot.

remember that in the army then and even now its a time honored right of passage to fornicate and commit adultery. I was a virgin when I entered service and lost it while in service.
Eh... congrats? :lol
I hope she wasn't your commanding officer.
(Although.... wouldn't it be awesome having to salute to your lover the morning after? I think it would. :))

with talking its one thing. do I have to be able to buy jaci first bra? or would that best for the women who actually have the breasts to were them? would I ?yes if I need to but its best for monica or my wife to do that. if they were gone and I had jaci then I would find a lady in church to take jaci to the right store and get the bra.
I bet when the time comes jaci will probably have the knowledge how to buy bras herself. Believe me, kids are well informed about those things nowadays.
Traditionally it's the women passing on the knowledge about womanhood to their daughters, but I can see a huge benefit in dads talking with their daughters about those things because having a male point of view may help the girls understand things better and be less awkward about men.
And yes, dads should be able to go bra shopping with their daughters as if it was the most natural thing.
 
That ought to send him running for the hills, screaming the whole way..
Even if I hug and kiss him?
(Uh, better don't answer.)

he needs to get in touch with femine side. sorry I had to poke at claudya.
Why poke at me? You want me to help you get in touch with your feminine side? :kiss

You definitely won't get bored talking to her, lol.
Oh well, thanks. This moring in church I had a debate about gender stuff with a very intelligent guy who's married to a feminist woman himself. So I should have been relaxed because he's not really a conservative opponnent or so. But I totally screwed it up and got angry. Also, in real life I'm terribly insecure and thus I fail a lot at debating. I feel threatened by people's disagreeing with me and thus start yelling at them. :crying Really I'm not likeable.

That's why I befriended her -- she's one of a kind, and intelligent, too! Don't know why she's so hard on herself, but I guess rather lean toward the humble side than prideful.
Thank you very much. :biggrin2
Though it's not humbleness, but kinda "negative pride".

I won't take a serious turn on this thread, but as a touch of humor back in the days (almost 30 years ago) I got my nieces presents, they still believed in Santa. So whenever I got them gifts but wanted the rest to know who it was from, I just put, "From Santimclause". Close enough to look like "Santa Clause" to young girls who could barely read.
That's an awesome idea. Do you still sign your gifts that way? Because I bet even your adult friends and family would love that!
 
Oh well, thanks. This moring in church I had a debate about gender stuff with a very intelligent guy who's married to a feminist woman himself. So I should have been relaxed because he's not really a conservative opponnent or so. But I totally screwed it up and got angry. Also, in real life I'm terribly insecure and thus I fail a lot at debating. I feel threatened by people's disagreeing with me and thus start yelling at them. :crying Really I'm not likeable.
I'm chomping at the bit to talk to you about all this stuff you've been sharing about yourself because my wife is exactly what you've been describing about yourself. But, 1) I'm not sure we should do that in a public forum (and I don't do PM conversations with the opposite sex), and 2) I don't want to offend you by being very blunt about how I've been so deeply hurt by the personality traits my wife has. But I am completely intrigued, and frustrated, by what's going on inside of her.



That's an awesome idea. Do you still sign your gifts that way? Because I bet even your adult friends and family would love that!
I think I'll do it, too. But since my name is not 'Tim' they prolly won't get it and just think I can't spell 'Santa'.
 
I'm chomping at the bit to talk to you about all this stuff you've been sharing about yourself because my wife is exactly what you've been describing about yourself. But, 1) I'm not sure we should do that in a public forum (and I don't do PM conversations with the opposite sex), and 2) I don't want to offend you by being very blunt about how I've been so deeply hurt by the personality traits my wife has. But I am completely intrigued, and frustrated, by what's going on inside of her.
Why wouldn't you PM with someone of the opposite sex? You scared that in private I will suddenly show my true nature, get red glowing eyes, grow claws and fangs and try to bite your head off? :biggrin Now I'm tempted to just write you a PM, just to scare you a little...

In all seriousness though. If your wife is like that, too, she might need professional help. I am seeking professional help because deep inside I know I can beat my personality disorder, although it's a long way to go and there will be many more setbacks and many more "unlikeable" moments.
I can understand that you got hurt by that kind of out of control behaviour. I have hurt many people, too. :-( And I know other people with similar issues and how hard they are to deal with. I hope you can forgive her?
Do you understand what's going on inside of her? And what would you intuitively suggest what she'd need to do or to change in order to be more level headed and relaxed? Does she understand what's going on in her mind; and is she willing to work on getting healed?


I think I'll do it, too. But since my name is not 'Tim' they prolly won't get it and just think I can't spell 'Santa'.
How about Santhro?
Thoughyour real name pro'ly isn't Jethro.
 
I think it's great for any thread to turn into a support group for all it's members.
And also a time to stomp on the original thread starter.
Anything that brings us together in Christ Jesus, our Lord and Savior.
Just keep the strip clubs to the strip clubs forum.
Ask Reba, she will start one and moderate it.
 
I think it's great for any thread to turn into a support group for all it's members.
And also a time to stomp on the original thread starter.
Anything that brings us together in Christ Jesus, our Lord and Savior.
Just keep the strip clubs to the strip clubs forum.
Ask Reba, she will start one and moderate it.

Reba? Moderating a strip club forum? She'd rolling pin us as soon as someone is untying their shoelace.
 
Traditionally it's the women passing on the knowledge about womanhood to their daughters, but I can see a huge benefit in dads talking with their daughters about those things because having a male point of view may help the girls understand things better and be less awkward about men.
And yes, dads should be able to go bra shopping with their daughters as if it was the most natural thing.
My dad told me about some things before my mom did. Nothing in-depth, but my mom seemed kinda reluctant at the time so I guess he figured somebody had to. (Although I didn't especially want to hear about it from anybody. lol)
 
My dad told me about some things before my mom did. Nothing in-depth, but my mom seemed kinda reluctant at the time so I guess he figured somebody had to. (Although I didn't especially want to hear about it from anybody. lol)

Yeah I guess most teenagers don't care who's giving them the facts of life talk - it's awkward in either case. Fortunately my parents both didn't bother much and let TV and teens magazins do the educational work. The media and biology classes in school did a better job than my parents could have. :lol
 
a nine year old will understand what a period is? I can easily explain that stuff if I need but I would by nature lack the sensitivity. it would be along the lines of, it happens get a tampon. move on. nothing to be scared of. yet that simply doenst work for the female mind
 
besides its best explained from someone who lives it. am I afraid too? no I have more knowledge on that stuff then a lot of men. my wife had a partial hystertomy. the doctor was surprised when I knew how they would do it. of course, I learned of it when I took my mom to the hospital to have that surgery three years before. yet when a man says it just doesn't have that compassion.

if im sick, I don't want to talk nor reassurance. just leave me be.
my wife is the opposite, she worries and is so anxious that at times I will say have lana take you. she is that stressed. I don't have the fear of needles. I have my fears but I face them in my own way. asking my wife if I was going to war wouldn't be a wise thing to have her say. been there done that. she worried more then I DID.
 
a nine year old will understand what a period is? I can easily explain that stuff if I need but I would by nature lack the sensitivity. it would be along the lines of, it happens get a tampon. move on. nothing to be scared of. yet that simply doenst work for the female mind

Well that's about the same my mother said to me when I had my first period. :lol

Just in case you have to give her that kind of talk maybe it would help to provide some more information about why and how it happens, and that it's something healthy to be embraced. But chances are she will already know most about it by the time it happens.
 
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