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Shilohsfoal said:
The mark if the beast will only be to the Israelis who worship their government and in extension his country.
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Please share the scripture that teaches us this.


It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation. 8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. Revelation 13:7-8

  • authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation.

Again


He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, 17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666. Revelation 13:16-18


  • He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark


JLB
 
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TLSITD said:
There is only one "holy place" and one "temple of God" on earth as far as God is concerned, and that's His Church.
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The holy place in the soon to be built temple in Jerusalem.


Otherwise you might want to explain to us how a flesh and blood man will occupy every Christian on earth.


JLB
 
JLB said:
The holy place in the soon to be built temple in Jerusalem.


Otherwise you might want to explain to us how a flesh and blood man will occupy every Christian on earth.


JLB
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I think explained both of these things in my previous reply to you, which said nothing of the antichrist "occupying every Christian on earth", or inhabiting them spiritually. You may want to re-read my reply.
 
JLB said:
The holy place in the soon to be built temple in Jerusalem.


Otherwise you might want to explain to us how a flesh and blood man will occupy every Christian on earth.


JLB
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This abomination of desolation takes place in the holy place of Christ temple, John 2:19-22. Eph 2:19-22; 1Peter 2:5, and just like Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego we need to stand in the faith of Christ to not bow down to this antichrist system as we need not fear that which has to take place before the day of the Lord, Rev 2:10; Matthew 10:28. There will never be a third temple made by hands.
 
TLSITD said:
I think explained both of these things in my previous reply to you, which said nothing of the antichrist "occupying every Christian on earth", or inhabiting them spiritually. You may want to re-read my reply.
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Ok
 
TLSITD said:
Christians who fall away from the Lord during this time will be putting him in the place of Christ, in "the temple of God" (2 Thess 2:4) or "the holy place where he does not belong"
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When you say "the holy place where he does not belong", this implies that “he” the antichrist will take the place of Christ in each Christian who falls away.

The antichrist is a man, how can a flesh and blood man be in the place of Christ in all the Christians all over the world?


The holy place refers to the temple in Jerusalem, which the Jews are moving closer to building everyday.


JLB
 
TLSITD said:
Even if a temple is rebuilt in Jerusalem, God will not return to it.
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Maybe so.

But we are talking about the antichrist, the false messiah who will go to this temple in Jerusalem to proclaim himself as God, not Jesus.



JLB
 
JLB said:
Please share the scripture that teaches us this.


It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation. 8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. Revelation 13:7-8

  • authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation.

Again


He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, 17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666. Revelation 13:16-18


  • He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark


JLB
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Tell us about the people who dwell in Israel.What nations are they not from?What tongue do they not speak?Who have they followed from all the world?

After to Israelis have relieved the mark of Israel,will you understand then?
 
Shilohsfoal said:
Tell us about the people who dwell in Israel.What nations are they not from?What tongue do they not speak?Who have they followed from all the world?

After to Israelis have relieved the mark of Israel,will you understand then?
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The context tells us what every tribe nation and tongue means.

3 And I saw one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed. And all the world marveled and followed the beast. 4 So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?”
Revelation 13:3-4


I understand that the mark of the beast is required for all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Revelation 13:16-17


JLB
 
JLB said:
The context tells us what every tribe nation and tongue means.

3 And I saw one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed. And all the world marveled and followed the beast. 4 So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?”
Revelation 13:3-4


I understand that the mark of the beast is required for all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Revelation 13:16-17


JLB
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Where did they follow the beast to?
 
reba said:
if God aint there it aint holy
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But that’s just it, the claim is being made that the temple is Christians and the antichrist will now replace Christ in our “holy place”.

What is the difference between the antichrist usurping the holy place in the Jerusalem Temple or the temple of Christians.

Did the change the name of the holy place when Antiochus Epiphanes offered pigs blood there?

It was stilled called the holy place.


JLB
 
Shilohsfoal said:
Where does the bible say ten billion people follow the beast?


Could you not answer to question?
The answer is.They followed the beast to his kingdom.
http://biblehub.com/revelation/16-10.htm
Yes his kingdom.
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The scriptural context is showing all the world will follow the beast.

And I saw one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed. And all the world marveled and followed the beast. 4 So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?”
Revelation 13:3-4

You insinuated that they will follow him to Jerusalem.

Shilohsfoal said:
Where did they follow the beast to?
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That’s roughly 10 Billion people in Jerusalem.
 
JLB said:
When you say "the holy place where he does not belong", this implies that “he” the antichrist will take the place of Christ in each Christian who falls away.

The antichrist is a man, how can a flesh and blood man be in the place of Christ in all the Christians all over the world?


The holy place refers to the temple in Jerusalem, which the Jews are moving closer to building everyday.


JLB
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I explained that in post #25 as the mark of the beast is the thoughts of the mind and actions of the hand as many will turn away from God who were the temple Christ dwells in as fear will take over that of faith and trust when they see Gods wrath being poured out and then this beast promises safety and provision. Mostly those who have believed in a pretrb rapture.
 
JLB said:
When you say "the holy place where he does not belong", this implies that “he” the antichrist will take the place of Christ in each Christian who falls away.

The antichrist is a man, how can a flesh and blood man be in the place of Christ in all the Christians all over the world?


The holy place refers to the temple in Jerusalem, which the Jews are moving closer to building everyday.


JLB
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Let me explain it this way:

When members of the Body of Christ are committing an action, that action is taking place in the Church. If many brothers in Christ are watching pornography, for example, then pornography is in the Church. That doesn't mean that all Christians are engaging in it, just because it is in the Church, or that the porn stars are inhabiting the spirits of the Christians watching porn.

When many Christians worship the beast, the worship of the beast will be in the Church---the temple of God and the holy place---where it does not belong. Practically speaking, the person of the antichrist will replace Jesus Christ in His Church, because His Church will be worshiping the antichrist; not because the antichrist has inhabited the Christians. Does that make sense?

God would never refer to any temple that might be built in Jerusalem for the worship of Satan (in the person of the antichrist) as the "holy place". He called a synagogue of spiritually uncircumcised unsaved Jews a "synagogue of Satan" (Rev 3:9 ESV).

Earthly Jerusalem hasn't been the holy city since the Jews rejected their God and He forsook them, nor will it ever be again. Jerusalem is referred to as "Sodom" and "Egypt" in the Revelation (11:8 ESV), because that is what it is like in God's sight, and because of the sins that are and will be taking place there and the judgments with which it will be judged by Him.

The worship of the antichrist most certainly ought to be in a temple built for the purpose, as any temple that might be rebuilt in Jerusalem will be---for their false messiah.

The abomination of desolation "ought not to be" in the Church, which was not built for that purpose.
God's temple is holy (1 Corinthians 3:17 ESV), and where God is not, is not holy as far as He is concerned. There is nothing about a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem that would make it any kind of "holy place". If one is built, it will be a Satanic place.
 
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