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How can Jesus' death on the cross be considered a sacrifice if he currently resides at the right hand of God, and had knowledge of this beforehand? For it to truly be a sacrifice He must have been separated from God for all eternity, and therefore must still be separated today.
 
Elder.Trufire said:
How can Jesus' death on the cross be considered a sacrifice if he currently resides at the right hand of God, and had knowledge of this beforehand?

He was a HUMAN , fully Man , suffering the physical pain, torture and humiliation before He died on the Cross. The fact that He currently resides at the right Hand of God is proof that He was risen , resurrected from physical death because He was the Son of God who if He was permanently dead and buried in His grave, would have failed to fulfill God's great divine plan of redemption. That He had foreknowledge of this does not alter the extend of suffering He endured on the Cross as this was the sacrifice He was willing to go through to fulfill His Father's purpose.



Elder.Trufire said:
For it to truly be a sacrifice He must have been separated from God for all eternity, and therefore must still be separated today.

Where do you suggest Jesus should be residing if He should not be residing at the right Hand of God ?
How exactly would being separated from God for all eternity be a better sacrifice ? ... :confused


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It isn't hard for thinking people to overcomplicate a simple spiritual truth. The point is simply that the human life of the flesh that housed the eternal one was destroyed and it was the shedding of that flesh's life blood that paid the eternal price for man's redemption.

The death on the cross was the end of the chapter on the price of redemption - then the chapter on "new life" begins at the resurrection. Everything that happened from the resurrection forward is new and is connected to the past only in the sense that it was the shedding of blood and death that enabled entry into the new life.... oversimplified perhaps, but it works for me.
 
Elder.Trufire said:
How can Jesus' death on the cross be considered a sacrifice if he currently resides at the right hand of God, and had knowledge of this beforehand? For it to truly be a sacrifice He must have been separated from God for all eternity, and therefore must still be separated today.
On what basis can you make that argument? It seems to me that it is precisely because he is God that his sacrifice was meaningful, and that it is only because he is still the God-man that enables him to interceded on our behalf.
 
Jesus was the Son of God, a flawless....sinless human being made to bear the sins of the world. Having never done wrong, he was crucified.

The act of crucifixion is not only barbaric. Having done some reading in terms of church history, there are some significant details about the death of Jesus that tend not to be looked into.

1. Jesus was hung on a cross, made of wood. The Jews cursed any who were hung upon trees.

2. Jesus was made to carry his own cross, his crime, being one to claim Himself just who and what He was. King of the Jews, the Messiah, their and the world's Savior. On his cross was written: INRI Jesus, King Of The Jews.

Not to mention...the soldiers cast lots for his robe. A crown of throrns was placed on His head. He was punctured in the side with a spear and given bitter fluids to drink as He was mocked while hanging on the cross. The last hours in which Jesus lived were spent in utter torment. He having done NOTHING wrong.

Though none of us can truly place ourselves in His shoes, try to imagine yourself in His shoes. Picture what it must have been like. Having to lay down your life for a world that was to reject you. If that is not torture, I do not know what is.
 

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