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There is a strong technological strain running through Occupy Wall Street, and software developers have been gathering at events in several cities to develop such tools for the demonstrators. One mobile app being developed, Shouty, would allow people to use their phones as radios, amplifying the human microphone at meetings in Zuccotti Park.
But the app that has gained the most attention is called I’m Getting Arrested. It allows users to write a message and identify recipients — friends, family, a lawyer — in advance. Then, if they are about to be taken into custody, they can push a button to send a text message blast. Its developer, Jason Van Anden, created it in two days after an acquaintance narrowly avoided an arrest at a demonstration several weeks ago.

Since its release, the Android app has been downloaded nearly 10,000 times. But it is unclear if it has ever been used for its intended purpose or, indeed, whether it would be useful. The app is simple to use; it takes a few seconds to set up a list of phone numbers and a message. But curiously, the message would not include information about a user’s location and does not facilitate connection to social networks like Twitter and Facebook, which are in wide use at political demonstrations.
The app also raises a question: If you do not have time to send a full text message when being arrested, will you have time to take out your phone, open the app and press the “Send” button for two seconds? I was once arrested at a political demonstration, and I do not remember having much time to pull out my phone.

The app’s primary use so far seems to be as a political symbol. Downloading it is a statement — as is, apparently, reviewing it. Those who have given it positive reviews have generally done so to express support for the demonstrators. Those who have panned it have criticized its potential users rather than its lack of Facebook integration.
At Zuccotti Park, and at Occupy marches and rallies, cellphones are ubiquitous. “I think people typically view the cellphones, or smartphones or the like, as a form of protection,” said Donna Lieberman, the executive director of the New York Civil Liberties Union.
Ms. Lieberman said the constant documentation of political demonstrations had served as a deterrent against aggressive action by the police.

When arrests are made, she said, video from cellphones has served as evidence to support demonstrators who say they have been mistreated; it was cellphone images that showed the pepper-spraying of young women by a New York Police Department deputy inspector.
But some people involved in the protests see cellphones as a mixed blessing.
One question is whether the police could search the contents of cellphones seized during arrests, allowing them to glean information about the person being arrested or about the movement. Courts in different states have issued conflicting opinions about the rules restricting cellphone searches. The California Supreme Court ruled in January that police officers could examine text messages and other phone data without a warrant during an arrest. In response, legislators passed a bill requiring a warrant, but the bill was vetoed by Gov. Jerry Brown this month. New York’s courts have not ruled on the issue.

The Police Department did not immediately respond to questions about its practices on searching phones during arrests.
The Electronic Frontier Foundation, an advocacy group for personal digital rights, advised those carrying phones at demonstrations to lock them with passwords and to consider using apps like WhisperCore, which encrypts phone data.
The best solution for people going into tense situations is simply to leave their phones behind, said Hanni Fakhoury, a staff lawyer with the foundation. But he acknowledged that his advice was likely to fall on deaf ears.
“It kind of cuts against the advances of technology,” he said.

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nothing new on the cameras keeping the cops in line. and with northeast region, it seems that cop corruption is all too common. sorry lewis where i live that isnt too much of a problem.

though lately two murders have escaped and that isnt far from where i work.
 
I don't think it is right for a cops to search your cell phone when you are arrested for a non violent crime. If you get arrested for demonstrating why are the cops looking in your cell phone. They should have to get a warrant unless it is a murder or robbery. What makes the cops think that they have a right to go through your cell phone because you were demonstrating.
 
And the irony? The very thing these mozaics and busters are protesting (capitalism) is what is providing them their cell phones and special Apps with which to call to tell their friends they are being arrested for breaking the law. :toofunny :toofunny (Not to mention their Gucci bags and Armani shoes...) Aw this is why we send young people to war... useful idiots. :biggrinistorted

Police do have the right to search your cellular phones. This came into being with the counter Terrorist Act compliments of Bush.
 
I don't think it is right for a cops to search your cell phone when you are arrested for a non violent crime. If you get arrested for demonstrating why are the cops looking in your cell phone. They should have to get a warrant unless it is a murder or robbery. What makes the cops think that they have a right to go through your cell phone because you were demonstrating.
actually they do. case in point we had a known pedophile that bragged about his adventures in texts to a teen. he was dating/having sex with a minor under the age of 14. while not under 12. yet he was well known as his phone was lent to a fellow student in the mp course i and those around him attended. the phone had pics and responses from the teen with questions how old you are being responded too. the soldier that had seen the text went to the cadre. nothing was done as it was a reason or so forth to arrest. so he is an mp now as far as know.

so if that was your daughter and he was now protesting i guess that officer who arrested him shouldnt look into that.
 
If you are protesting for something like for instance, the right have to fair housing.
why does the cops have to look in your cell phone for protesting for fair housing. Or for protesting to have safer schools for our kids. Please tell me why ?
 
ok,well any act that is illegal that gets you arrested allows them to search you items. cell phone make excellent bombs i have pics of said bombs on this laptop for training purposes. so what that person there was intending to do an act of terrorism and also blocking traffic isnt a constutional right.

if one gets a permit and coordinates this with the local folks seldom does it get to the point. what ows is doing is simply mobbing the streets verses the organised tea party events in stadiums or as i stated before. im sure you would like if code pink blocked your church service each time you gathered. you would want the police to break it up right?
 
Many cities leaving Wall Street protesters alone

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This is outside of Phillies City Hall yesterday, these people are peaceful and the Constitution says that we have a right to assemble. If we had not protested in the 60's there would still be for colored only water fountains. We have a basic human right to protest about unfair conditions.
 
but not in the streets. im sure you like to get to work right? and church so you wouldnt call the police when the guys camp for days and uh king didnt protests in the streets right? i recall him having police escorted protests in atlanta and elsewhere. hmm that implies coordinated protest with the goverment so that traffic can be diverted.

ok l will go here then suppose you church has only one entrance from the road and a bunch of athiest are wanting christianity to be banned your church is the place that they protest and ever service time they block you from going there.

where is your right then to worship god? and for the sake of argument they are peaceful.

i am well familiar with the law as i am the jerk that will make these ows move in my state if called to do so with no moral qualms.

the national guard does respond to that stuff and a few months ago tampa had to deal with a protest that blocked this



http://saintpetersblog.com/2011/08/...n-aug-16-of-citizens-sinkhole-rate-increases/

this didnt need us to respond but we were told about it.
 
then thats nothing illegal, blocking a road or bridge is illegal. cops to my knowledge(so long as the officials can enter and exit the building peacefully) wont bother with them unless another crime is commited

oh btw i have protested my own city hall(which pays me) we did it when they had meeting and sat in the chambers quietly. worked too.
 
I was down there last week and the cops and the protesters were laughing and joking with each other. But in New York it is a different story. They have taken the generators away that was for lighting and heat. I see that here in Philly the city has provided public toilets tight outside City Hall.
 
that what happens when people do that stuff in civility not in anger as elsewhere.

we have had peace protests here when iraq was invaded. and no arrests were made.
 

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