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Is there a difference between "believing on Jesus" and "believing in Jesus"?
Is there a difference between "believing on Jesus" and "believing in Jesus"?
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hmm - good questiondirtfarmer here
Is there a difference between "believing on Jesus" and "believing in Jesus"?
That is WIDE open dirtfarmer. It is open to answer any way we want according to how we interpret 'in' or'on'.dirtfarmer here
Is there a difference between "believing on Jesus" and "believing in Jesus"?
That's how I see it as well. There's a difference in believing in something and putting faith and trust in that which one believes.dirtfarmer here
As I see it, the demons that Jesus cast out that went into the swine believe in Jesus, but they didn't believe on Jesus. I understand to believe on Jesus is to depend on his sacrifice on the cross for salvation. An example of believing in Jesus would be Judas Iscariot. He believed in Jesus, but didn't believe on him for salvation.
Muslims believe that Jesus was the al-Masih, the Arabic term for Messiah, yet do not believe in Him for their salvation.dirtfarmer here
Is there a difference between "believing on Jesus" and "believing in Jesus"?
What's the definition of each?dirtfarmer here
Is there a difference between "believing on Jesus" and "believing in Jesus"?
I say many believe the name of Jesus, but have no clue of who Jesus is and His attributes. The disciples knew him as a prophet teacher, but it wasn't until their Spiritual understanding that came that they then knew Jesus as Messiah come. The Pharisees pondered his teachings, but yet called him out as a blasphemer and a wine bibbler.
John 8:19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.
Yes, as Jesus is our salvation to all who will believe and have faith in Him. It's like anything we know is good for us, but unless we taste it first how will we know for sure.
Psalms 34:8 O taste and see that the LORD is good: blessed is the man that trusteth in him.
I relate using the word Messiah come as in the term of our promised Savior redeemer whom was before the foundation of the world, but yes what you have said they were looking for a Priestly King to rule over them as they would not know Jesus until it was revealed to the disciples of who he is. Messiah is a Christian concept in the sense of how we know Him to be our Lord and Savior that has redeemed us from the curse of the law.
In post # 12 I am agreeing with you. However even though Paul never called Jesus Messiah, John did, but also mentioned that he was talking about Jesus.
The Jerusalem Bible
John 1:41 One of these two who became followers of Jesus after hearing what John had said was Andrew, the brother of Simon Peter. Early next morning Andrew met his brother and said to him, "We have found the Messiah" which means the Christ
John 4:25 The woman said to him, "I know that Messiah - that is, Christ - is coming; and when he comes he will tell us everything." "I who is speaking to you," said Jesus, I am he."
Messiah is a Christian concept through the English, but to the Jew the word "mashiach" does not mean "savior." The notion of an innocent, divine or semi-divine being who will sacrifice himself to save us from the consequences of our own sins is a purely Christian concept that has no basis in Jewish thought. Unfortunately, this Christian concept has become so deeply ingrained in the English word "messiah" that this English word can no longer be used to refer to the Jewish concept.
You can also study this further at http://www.jewfaq.org/mashiach.htm#Bible
Not sure what you mean by your statement, "It is salvation from Roman authority." What does Roman authority have to do with salvation through Christ?
Do we follow after Paul or after Christ! Paul, just like John were both born into a Jewish family, even though Paul was a Roman citizen. Both were called of Christ to be His Apostles and to take the teachings of Christ out into the world. Do we follow after the Pastor and what they teach or do we follow after the teachings of Christ taught through them! Just something to think about.
hello for_his_glory, dirtfarmer here
The "messiah" was to the Jews a savior from Roman oppression.
What did Jesus mean when he commanded the twelve; "Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans, enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And as ye go, preach, saying the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Are we to believe that only the "house of Israel" can be saved?
The answer is that Christ had not yet been crucified and therefore He came only to save Israel at that point. If Israel had accepted the offer of the kingdom that Jesus presented when He rode into Jerusalem on " a colt, the foal of an ass", then there would not have been an opportunity for salvation to the world. When you don't "rightly divide the word of truth" there is confusion.
I will quote from Galatians which Paul wrote.
Galatians 2:7, " But contrarywise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter." Was Paul making a misstatement in this verse?
Saul was Paul's name before his salvation on the Damascus Road. Saul's name was changed, when he became a "follower of Christ", to Paul and it is through him that the Epistles that we are to establish church doctrine from was given. We are to be imitators of Christ with Paul as our example, not John, Peter, nor James.
As to following pastors, we are to compare everything they preach with scripture to see if it is according to scripture and if it is, then we are to follow them.