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Brother Mike
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Brother Mike,
'Faith comes by hearing the word of Christ' is from Rom 10:17 (SBL Greek) which reads, ἄρα ἡ πίστις ἐξ ἀκοῆς, ἡ δὲ ἀκοὴ διὰ ῥήματος Χριστοῦ.
What does ῥήματος (from rhema) mean? Seems to me that you are missing the meaning of 'logic'. Unless one uses logical processes, there is no way to understand the meaning of a stated sentence.
We can't have a discussion about the the meaning of the construction 'faith comes by hearing' unless we use logical reasoning.
'Logic is to language and meaning as mathematics is to physical science. In order to understand how sentences – which are what compose language – work, it is necessary to learn to find their logical structure' (source).
Therefore, to understand what the Scriptures state, even 'faith comes by hearing the word of Christ', we cannot chuck out logic. Logic is integral to understanding anything we say, hear or read.
Oz
We don't use Logic to understand scriptures. Was it logical to defeat an enemy by marching around the walls 7 times?
Is it logical to think that your answer to be healed of Leprosy is to go show yourself to the priest who only check if you think your cured.
Is it logical to serve water to guest when they asked for wine?
Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil.
(Pro 3:5-7)
1Co_1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
Where does our logic come in to understand spiritual things?
1Pe_1:21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.
Man is designed to believe, not use their logic. Man's logic is based on what He already believes because that is how man is created.
This is why you can show someone something 20 times as being right, but if that is not what they want to believe, your spinning your wheels because logic does not appeal to us when we have already believed a certain way.
Logic can only be used to set fourth a belief if a belief has yet been fully formed.
A man is better if He says, that since God said it, then it's so. My understanding is unfruitful, let the Lord reveal it to me.
Mike.