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Did Mary consent to our salvation?
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Yes to both.
God’s response to Mary consenting to our salvation!
Zech 9:9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.
Zech 9:9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.
Her opinion wouldn't matter, as she won't be judging us on the last day.
No.
She is the mother of Jesus and the other kids in her family.
E
Or Mary is not His mother? Matt 1:21
“other kids in her family”?
Thanks
Please explain how Jesus is not our salvation? Lk 2:30
Or Mary is not His mother? Matt 1:21
“other kids in her family”?
Thanks
Mary and eve!
New garden of eden!
New Eva!
Eve consented to the fall, and God required Mary to consent to our redemption and salvation both in the annunciation and at the cross!
Mary our hope is the spouse of the Holy Spirit and your assertions are offensive at least to my pius ears if not to the Holy Spirit!
And she consented to be the mother of God Lk 1:43 and she consented to our salvation! Lk 1:38
Two reasons why Mary is the mother of our salvation!
1: Because Jesus Christ is our salvation Lk 2:30 and Mary is His mother!
2: Because she consented to our salvation! Lk 1:38 And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her.
Mary’s spiritual children!
The disciples of Jesus are Mary’s spiritual children!
John 19:26-27
When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son! Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.
Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
New garden of eden!
New Eva!
Eve consented to the fall, and God required Mary to consent to our redemption and salvation both in the annunciation and at the cross!
Mary our hope is the spouse of the Holy Spirit and your assertions are offensive at least to my pius ears if not to the Holy Spirit!
And she consented to be the mother of God Lk 1:43 and she consented to our salvation! Lk 1:38
Two reasons why Mary is the mother of our salvation!
1: Because Jesus Christ is our salvation Lk 2:30 and Mary is His mother!
2: Because she consented to our salvation! Lk 1:38 And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her.
Mary’s spiritual children!
The disciples of Jesus are Mary’s spiritual children!
John 19:26-27
When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son! Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.
Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Jesus is our salvation, and Mary was His mom.
Yes, other kids...as per Mark 6:3, 15:40,47, Matt 13:55, and Matt 27:56.
What difference would her opinion make in the matter of our salvation ?
God sent an angel to her to let her know what He was doing with her.
(What a strange question.)
Children of another Mary!
Mk 15:40 There were also women looking on afar off: among whom was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the less and of Joses, and Salome;
Matthew 27:56
Among which was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedees children.
Acts 4:36
And Joses, who by the apostles was surnamed Barnabas, (which is, being interpreted, The son of consolation,) a Levite, and of the country of Cyprus,
(Cannot be Mary’s child, Mary was of the tribe of Judah and the royal house of David the king!) Lk 1:32-33
Is Mary the mother of James?
If you mean the Blessed Virgin Mary then no. Her sister-in-law, Mary of Clopas, was the wife of Alphaeus (St. Joseph's brother), and mother of Simon, Joseph, and the apostles Judas Thaddeus, and James (the Less, brother of the Lord): Jesus' cousins.
Martin Luther
It is an article of faith that Mary is Mother of the Lord and still a virgin. … Christ, we believe, came forth from a womb left perfectly intact. (Weimer’s The Works of Luther, English translation by Pelikan, Concordia, St. Louis, v. 11, pp. 319-320; v. 6. p. 510.)
Note: an article of faith is required for salvation.
John Calvin
(On the Heretic Helvidius) Helvidius displayed excessive ignorance in concluding that Mary must have had many sons, because Christ’s “brothers” are sometimes mentioned. (Harmony of Matthew, Mark and Luke, sec. 39 [Geneva, 1562], vol. 2 / From Calvin’s Commentaries, translated by William Pringle, Grand Rapids, Michigan: Eerdmans, 1949, p.215; on Matthew 13:55)
[On Matt 1:25:] The inference he [Helvidius] drew from it was, that Mary remained a virgin no longer than till her first birth, and that afterwards she had other children by her husband . . . No just and well-grounded inference can be drawn from these words . . . as to what took place after the birth of Christ. He is called “first-born”; but it is for the sole purpose of informing us that he was born of a virgin . . . What took place afterwards the historian does not inform us . . . No man will obstinately keep up the argument, except from an extreme fondness for disputation. (Pringle, ibid., vol. I, p. 107)
Under the word “brethren” the Hebrews include all cousins and other relations, whatever may be the degree of affinity. (Pringle, ibid., vol. I, p. 283 / Commentary on John, [7:3])
John Wesley
‘I believe that He [Jesus] was made man, joining the human nature with the divine in one person; being conceived by the singular operation of the Holy Ghost, and born of the blessed Virgin Mary, who, as well after as before she brought Him forth, continued a pure and unspotted virgin’ (‘Letter to a Roman Catholic’, The Works of Rev. John Wesley, vol 10, p. 81).
Lk 1:34 no sex period!
Jesus does not make Mary our mother, He declares her to be so! Jn 19:26 also rev 12:17
If Jesus is our salvation, and Mary is his mother, then she must be the mother of our salvation!
If Jesus is God, and Mary his mother she must be the mother of God as scripture says Lk 1:43!
Not her opinion on the matter but her free will to consent or reject our salvation!
God will that as a virgin thru a fallen angel consented to our fall
It was fitting that a virgin thru and angel consent to our salvation, and to be the mother of Christ even though she has a vow of perpetual virginity!
I don't beleive your POV.
Citing false prophets doesn't help your argument either.
...declared to John.
Not to me.
Hardly.
As a Christian, I cannot in good faith elevate anyone to equality with Jesus.
That is idolatry.
Jesus was the Word.
God doesn't need a mom.
Reject our salvation ?
Your idolatry is showing.
What are you talking about ?
Mary obeyed God.
Will you make statues of me, and glorify me, because I obey God ?
John represents all disciples
“To the disciple standing there”
not equality but relationship
Yes mother of the word
You say.