There are a lot of people who have health problems, and a lot of people who we love that are sick. Are miracles still occurring today? The Bible says, “Absolutely not. In 1 Cor 13:10 Paul said, "When that which is perfect has come then that which is in part will be done away. In the context, which part?
1 Corinthians 13:1-13If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. 2And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3If I give away all I have, and if I deliver up my body to be burned,a but have not love, I gain nothing.
4Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant 5or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful;b 6it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. 7Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
8Love never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. 9For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10
but when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away. 11When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up childish ways. 12For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known.
13So now faith, hope, and love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love.
I'm not convinced this passage is referring to God not performing miracles any more. It says when the "perfect" comes. We aren't living in this "perfect". When heaven is our reality, then these things will pass away, but love will remain. To me it seems like you are puzzling verses to fit. Now you say this "perfect" is Jesus from James 1, if this were the case why did miracles happen after Jesus came? Do you have any other verses that support that God doesn't do miracles anymore?
The miracles do not exist today because we have the Word of God, which saves us.
The Bible is full of miracles and they had Scripture too. No it couldn't be mass produced because they didn't have the printing press, but they still had the old testament. If you take the Bible which is full of miracle stories, and rip out all the pages with miracles; then you won't have a Bible any more. This word that you use "saves", does it not mean forgiven, delivered, and healed? Which only Jesus saves, I don't believe that it's the Words of the Bible.
The problem with this passage is that everyone leaves out verse 14 and misunderstands who He is addressing in verse 17, The antecedent of "them" is "the eleven themselves" (Mark 16:14); and the only way this can be avoided is to change the singular pronouns in Mark 16:15-16 into plural pronouns contrary to the Greek text. (it was the Apostles that would have the power of signs)
I could understand your point on this
IF they were the only ones who performed miracles. The new testament is littered with many different believers performing miracles in the name of Jesus.
2nd Timothy 3:1-9 But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. 2For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, 4treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5
having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people. 6For among them are those who creep into households and capture weak women, burdened with sins and led astray by various passions, 7always learning and never able to arrive at a knowledge of the truth. 8Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so these men also oppose the truth, men corrupted in mind and disqualified regarding the faith. 9But they will not get very far, for their folly will be plain to all, as was that of those two men.
This passage talks as if the miracles will never stop, but says in the last times that His people would actually deny its power. Am I missing something here? What about all these claims of missionaries in South America and Africa raising the dead up? How about the evangelists who pray over the sick and they get healed? Are they evil or just obeying the Word of God?
We also know that doctrines can't be started unless there are many supporting verses. As of now there is possible one verse that supports the theory of what you guys are saying of the Holy Spirit not moving anymore. Though, I'd beg to differ as I discussed that verse already. Also, if you have any verses stating that healing the sick or casting out demons is of the devil, then please enlighten me.
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