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there was a christian group - 100 huntley street i think - that cut down a living tree - petrified it - with electricity or something - i forget how they did itThat's true.
But we certainly know that it is older than 6000 years.
The Bible is NOT a science book.
It's as THEOLOGY book.
Again. (I find I have to keep repeating this.) The Bible is not a history book or a science book.God and the bible i trust because over and over things get proven by honest science
I wanted to respond to your excellent question, using ideas from my previous post:my thoughts are "there was evening there was morning the 1st...2nd...etc day"
so evening and morning would be 24 hrs would it not?
i guess i thought everyone would see it that way
how can "evening morning the 1st day" not be 24 hrs?
yabba, dabba, do couldn't resist.
How do we know that God might have created others before Adam, but it repented Him that He created them and destroyed them as there was no Noah found among them, Genesis 6:6-8. Another thing I ponder is when God told Adam to replenish the earth, Genesis 1:28, as why would it say replenish instead of plenish the earth. Just odd things I pick up at times.
thank you for that answerI wanted to respond to your excellent question, using ideas from my previous post:
1. If Genesis is a parable, and the time periods described therein are not literal days and evenings, but historical eras of much longer duration.
2. If time flow was much different during the early stages of the creation of the universe, and back then a day lasted not 24 hours, but some 2 billion years. (Actually that's an elegant rough estimate, with a billion year daylight and a billion year nighttime.)
there was an amazing scientist - george washington carver - who did amazing research and applications with his researchAgain. (I find I have to keep repeating this.) The Bible is not a history book or a science book.
The Bible tells us about God's revelation to mankind.
It tells us about God's will for man.
It tells us about salvation in Jesus Christ.
It does not tell us how old the universe or the earth is because those things are unimportant.
What IS important is: Who is Jesus and what did He accomplish?
Would who He is and what He did be any different if the earth was billions of years old or if it was 6000 years old?
The earth's age not important to me.
It might be important to an astrophysicist. If you told him/her that the Bible says the universe is only 6000 years old you might blow his/her only opportunity to hear about Jesus.
So, what's more important to you: how old the earth is or what Jesus is about?
i agree - i learn a lot from people who disagree with me - it expands my understanding greatly - even if in the end i continue to disagree - but many times i have changed my mind based on good discussions - and i want to keep learning and growingYep, you got the nail right on the head. I think we are proceeding from very different assumptions. Honestly, I don't even know who's "right", so approach this whole issue from an admittedly academic perspective. I just find discussing it is fascinating in its own right.
Again. (I find I have to keep repeating this.) The Bible is not a history book or a science book.
The Bible tells us about God's revelation to mankind.
It tells us about God's will for man.
It tells us about salvation in Jesus Christ.
It does not tell us how old the universe or the earth is because those things are unimportant.
What IS important is: Who is Jesus and what did He accomplish?
Would who He is and what He did be any different if the earth was billions of years old or if it was 6000 years old?
The earth's age not important to me.
It might be important to an astrophysicist. If you told him/her that the Bible says the universe is only 6000 years old you might blow his/her only opportunity to hear about Jesus.
So, what's more important to you: how old the earth is or what Jesus is about?
It's refreshing to hear this kind of attitude. I find it rare, on these forums, to hear of anyone who "changed their mind".i agree - i learn a lot from people who disagree with me - it expands my understanding greatly - even if in the end i continue to disagree - but many times i have changed my mind based on good discussions - and i want to keep learning and growing
people are fascinating - and God gives really good ideas to everyone - which makes friendly discussions enjoyable
judging attacking discussions are disturbing and unprofitabe
God Bless you my friend
It's refreshing to hear this kind of attitude. I find it rare, on these forums, to hear of anyone who "changed their mind".
If they have, they have not vocalized it.
Most of the time, I see constant bickering and bantering back and forth for page after page. All the while, both posters are firmly rooted in their view.
amen - i see no reason to attack anyone - and in the end they may have been right - and i may have been wrongIt's refreshing to hear this kind of attitude. I find it rare, on these forums, to hear of anyone who "changed their mind".
If they have, they have not vocalized it.
Most of the time, I see constant bickering and bantering back and forth for page after page. All the while, both posters are firmly rooted in their view.
amen - well saidI can also agree with the sentiment.
I think these discussions are important and accept that views will differ.
I consider it very positive that we can continue this discussion at length and still respect each other.
I think we have all rowed that boat to shore...amen - i see no reason to attack anyone - and in the end they may have been right - and i may have been wrong
i've had egg on my face too many times - so now i am more open minded
i think back to when i was "always right" - i was really maybe just grasping at trying to nail things down - so i was legalistic and inflexible - probably to hide my shaky confidence - almost like thinking i was right made me feel better - and not knowing what was right or wrong shook my world
well i found 1 thing far worse than not knowing what is right or wrong - it's BEING wrong - and adamantly CLAIMING to be right - wow - what a dummy i was so often in the past - don't want to be a dummy anymore - so now it is easier to listen to what everyone has to say - and then think and pray about it - and then share my reasons for my ideas - realizing that i may soon be changing my mind yet again
God bless you my dear friend
lol - yes -I think we have all rowed that boat to shore...
We are all "too soon old, too late smart".
My favorite bumper sticker...." Hire a teenager, while they still know everything".
I'm not sure I would agree with that one. It is at least a book of history (although it is much more).The Bible is not a history book or a science book.
People who say that the bible is not a science book, are correct that it doesn't describe atoms and the periodic table. Or metallurgy, rocket science and such.I'm not sure I would agree with that one. It is at least a book of history (although it is much more).
This really IS the heart of the matter. Beautifully stated.Again. (I find I have to keep repeating this.) The Bible is not a history book or a science book.
The Bible tells us about God's revelation to mankind.
It tells us about God's will for man.
It tells us about salvation in Jesus Christ.
It does not tell us how old the universe or the earth is because those things are unimportant.
What IS important is: Who is Jesus and what did He accomplish?
Would who He is and what He did be any different if the earth was billions of years old or if it was 6000 years old?
The earth's age not important to me.
It might be important to an astrophysicist. If you told him/her that the Bible says the universe is only 6000 years old you might blow his/her only opportunity to hear about Jesus.
So, what's more important to you: how old the earth is or what Jesus is about?